Cybertruck trade-ins are now live

[carsly]

carsly,
You looking to sell?

thinking about it seriously. had a Model S Plaid before, might go back.

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[dalton108]

thinking about it seriously. had a Model S Plaid before, might go back.

I didn’t realize you were unhappy. ?

 

[carsly]

I didn’t realize you were unhappy. ?

don’t get me wrong, I enjoy CT and it’s my daily driver. just wish it were 10% smaller. we have narrow streets and it can get a bit anxiety provoking. that every day is wearing on me. It’s an amazing machine and I’ve had no serious issues.

I don’t need Plaid power, but the S was a more comfortable size, could see the hood, fit in the garage better and my wife would drive it comfortably and regularly. CT? she’s never driven it, and she likes to drive big SUV’s. we also picked up a Rivian R1S a few months ago which seems to fit the bill as well, perhaps better, than CT. Pairing that with the S, even absent the impending refresh, feels like a more flexible two-vehicle pairing.

 

[dalton108]

don’t get me wrong, I enjoy CT and it’s my daily driver. just wish it were 10% smaller. we have narrow streets and it can get a bit anxiety provoking. that every day is wearing on me. It’s an amazing machine and I’ve had no serious issues.

I don’t need Plaid power, but the S was a more comfortable size, could see the hood, fit in the garage better and my wife would drive it comfortably and regularly. CT? she’s never driven it, and she likes to drive big SUV’s. we also picked up a Rivian R1S a few months ago which seems to fit the bill as well, perhaps better, than CT. Pairing that with the S, even absent the impending refresh, feels like a more flexible two-vehicle pairing.

Yeah, we see how every time you take a screenshot your Rivian is hanging out in your “dynamic island” on your iPhone. ?

Obviously, you have to do what’s best for you and your family.

 

[Speedr]

don’t get me wrong, I enjoy CT and it’s my daily driver. just wish it were 10% smaller. we have narrow streets and it can get a bit anxiety provoking. that every day is wearing on me. It’s an amazing machine and I’ve had no serious issues.

I don’t need Plaid power, but the S was a more comfortable size, could see the hood, fit in the garage better and my wife would drive it comfortably and regularly. CT? she’s never driven it, and she likes to drive big SUV’s. we also picked up a Rivian R1S a few months ago which seems to fit the bill as well, perhaps better, than CT. Pairing that with the S, even absent the impending refresh, feels like a more flexible two-vehicle pairing.

Completely understand, but just to give you another data point, we have both a Cybertruck and a Model S Plaid. The only reason the Plaid ever gets driven anymore is one of us has already taken the Cybertruck...

 

[hemiarch]

Do you guys know if it’s possible to lease a 24 FS? Don’t see that option on the website
if so, how does the buyback work?

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Yeah. That’s the quandary. And the customizations to current truck Wish they would just let me pay $5k-$10k for “free” supercharging.

At $99/month, or essentially $1,200 per year, it makes way more sense to pay as we go. That’s what I intended to do until they gave us a free year (‘25 dual motor delivered in March, FSD now free through 6/26). If that hadn’t happened, paying $10k to delete a $1,200 annualized fee isn’t a great return on investment. Especially given that hardly anyone who can afford one will keep a CT for more than five years. Math is math.

 

[arnav_8]

Same, plus I’m gonna see if I can reincarnate as the next owner so I can maximize my ROI.

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[PungoteagueDave]

Weve saved about 35k over the years.
We’ve had Lifetime Supercharging on our Model X since 2017 and save $5-6000/ yr.
I waited specifically until Tesla offered Lifetime SC on the CB before I pulled the trigger.
There may be dips but the price of gas / energy never goes down , it always goes up and to the right .

Really? $6k of supercharging per year is over 50k supercharging miles per year in a MX. Forgetting that Tesla does not recommend constant use of superchargers, that seems nearly impossible, year in, year out, for 6 years. Wishful thinking? Rationalization? Even with no home charging, I struggle to believe this.

 

[arnav_8]

Like many have said, I’ll drive mine to the ground. No trade-ins or swaps.

I hope at some point if they end up improving the battery technology to get me 500mile range like promised in 2019, I’d like a battery swap.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Airstreams on the property

And no power? It was restored pretty quickly, even if only to an onsite pylon for campers.

 

[Nexus6]

And no power? It was restored pretty quickly, even if only to an onsite pylon for campers.

Why pay for energy when Elon is giving it to us for free? Hence, why I bought our first Tesla Model X in 2017, for the free energy. Teslas are the safest, most American cars on the road, I didn’t buy our Teslas because we’re some wannabe Greta Thunberg Evironuts.

 

[Outdoors]

As a reference point. No intention, just thought worth sharing.

We have a pre facelift S, and post facelift S with unlimited supercharging. Pre facelift is grocery car at other home. Has 278k. All supercharger use. 175 mile round trip for Costco.

Post facelift has 330k 11% degradation. Actually gained range in last 100k. 60% supercharger use.

For some unlimited is worth every penny. Many it isn't worth the free if one could get a lower price on car.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Why pay for energy when Elon is giving it to us for free? Hence, why I bought our first Tesla Model X in 2017, for the free energy. Teslas are the safest, most American cars on the road, I didn’t buy our Teslas because we’re some wannabe Greta Thunberg Evironuts.

Your story isn’t penciling out, sorry. I have owned six Teslas, starting with MS #2609 in 2012. My first three had unlimited supercharging included in the price. “Free” supercharging has never been a thing despite Tesla and unknowledgeable owners calling it that. Supercharging was simply included in the price. In Tesla’s case, they had to set up a reserve for the “value” of supercharging on every car that sold that included supercharging, either for the life of teh car, or for the period the first owner had the vehicle. The initial “value” assigned to “included supercharging” in Tesla’s reserves was $2,500 for 2012/2013. Some form of included supercharging has come and gone over Tesla’s sales history. It has never been worth $6k/year, or even over the life of the car, except MAYBE for UBER drivers or other taxi uses. If the numbers work for you, you must drive 60k miles per year using exclusively supercharging. You ask “Why pay for energy…”? Obviously because Tesla says supercharging is not good for the high voltage battery - I believe their guidance is 15% supercharging over the long term.

First you claim to have no home. Then you claim you live in a trailer, implying there is no power to charge your vehicle. I called obvious BS on that, as it is on your property that would have had power within a couple weeks , so now you say why charge at home when Tesla pays for it. You also claimed to save $6k/year by using Superchargers and not charging at home. That’s almost impossible unless all you do is drive and Supercharge all day. You claim to own four vehicles, so driving 60k/yr in a Tesla isn’t easy to do, especially living in Malibu. Nothing adds up. Do you even own a Tesla?

 

[DAE1]

Your story isn’t penciling out, sorry. I have owned six Teslas, starting with MS #2609 in 2012. My first three had unlimited supercharging included in the price. “Free” supercharging has never been a thing despite Tesla and unknowledgeable owners calling it that. Supercharging was simply included in the price. In Tesla’s case, they had to set up a reserve for the “value” of supercharging on every car that sold that included supercharging, either for the life of teh car, or for the period the first owner had the vehicle. The initial “value” assigned to “included supercharging” in Tesla’s reserves was $2,500 for 2012/2013. Some form of included supercharging has come and gone over Tesla’s sales history. It has never been worth $6k/year, or even over the life of the car, except MAYBE for UBER drivers or other taxi uses. If the numbers work for you, you must drive 60k miles per year using exclusively supercharging. You ask “Why pay for energy…”? Obviously because Tesla says supercharging is not good for the high voltage battery - I believe their guidance is 15% supercharging over the long term.

First you claim to have no home. Then you claim you live in a trailer, implying there is no power to charge your vehicle. I called obvious BS on that, as it is on your property that would have had power within a couple weeks , so now you say why charge at home when Tesla pays for it. You also claimed to save $6k/year by using Superchargers and not charging at home. That’s almost impossible unless all you do is drive and Supercharge all day. You claim to own four vehicles, so driving 60k/yr in a Tesla isn’t easy to do, especially living in Malibu. Nothing adds up. Do you even own a Tesla?

I can only comment on the possibility of saving $6K/yr with free supercharging. I’d one-up that to closer to $10K, however, it would prematurely degrade the battery so you kinda have to pick your poison.

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