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Cybertruck legal to drive on Mars; in Germany, maybe not so much
Inspector says exoskeleton endangers passengers and pedestrians

Elon Musk's aspirations for the Tesla Cybertruck point to Mars. Based on comments from a German technical inspector, it appears the stainless wedge will be more welcome on another planet than in Germany and Europe. Stefan Teller is an expert with the SGS-TÜV Saarland in Germany, a Swiss-German conglomerate that performs technical inspection and certification for various industries throughout the world. In the automotive realm in Germany, for instance, vehicle owners must visit the TUV or similar body every two years for a roadworthiness inspection. As reported by Automobilwoche via Der Spiegel and Muscle Cars & Trucks, Teller said that based on what he knows of the Cybertruck, it wouldn't receive type approval for a mass-produced vehicle, and couldn't be sold in Germany.

The problem is the "nearly impenetrable exoskeleton" made of ultra-hard 30X cold-rolled stainless steel that gives the Cybertruck its shape, sheen, and sledgehammer-defying strength. Teller said the super-hard bodywork "contradicts the common European security philosophy" concerning vehicle occupants and pedestrians. He believes the toughened shell endangers passengers because, in an accident, "There are enormous forces acting on the occupants" such that "airbags no longer help there either." We haven't seen a Cybertruck in a crash test, so we don't know if or how Tesla's addressed this concern, but Teller believes, "The occupants feel safe, but they are not."

The expert thinks pedestrians will take hard knocks as well, which is a huge no-no on The Continent. National regulations over there demand that "The front of the vehicle must not be stiff," and, "The bumper and bonnet must be able to absorb energy to protect the pedestrians." If a sledgehammer swing won't leave a dent in the Cybertruck's bodywork, pedestrians and cyclists will get bounced off the pickup like squash balls.

Teller said the only way to German approval would be "strong modifications to the basic structure." As others have pointed out, Tesla could try going the route of certification as a specialized armored vehicle, but European regulators would likely see that as the end-around it would be.

When Autoblog spoke to researchers at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety about the newest Tesla, they noted some of the differences between American and European regulations such as our lack of pedestrian impact rules. They also said it's too early to tell how the truck will fare in a crash test.

All we can be reasonably sure of is that whenever Tesla gets its Berlin-based factory running, the 500,000-unit annual production goal won't include any Cybertrucks. However, and perhaps most important in all of this, Musk hasn't said a word about any desire to sell the Cybertruck Europe, anyway. If Tesla's silverfish gets classified as a medium-duty workhorse to boot, we think there's even less chance it will tour Saxony and the Saarland as a regular production vehicle.
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So, by extension, would all armored vehicles be illegal too?

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Although I'm certain CT will have passenger and at least some pedestrian crash worthiness, seeing it has a gross mass over 3500kg it will be exempt from most of those the crash testing rules anyways. It will mean you need a light truck licence to drive it there though. Otherwise external airbags would be a EU fix if they can't get that exoskeleton to conform.

It reminds me of a story I heard once from a professional Austrian mountaineer that tested his climbing hard helmet vs his knitted beanie by throwing both off a cliff and inspecting the remains. Obviously, the beanie won. 🤪 ;):ROFLMAO:
 


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About time there was a substitute for the Toyota Hilux.
Whatever badge Tesla fits to a non-US marketed ⅞ –15/16ths Cybertruck is more the EU product fit. A ¾ version or smaller pickup for third world will happen the day Tesla cast a vehicle in a single shot.

Panama is just now energizing its Pan Americana highway EV charging network through commercial enterprise.Tesla changed the world. Toyota sold the world. Big philosophical difference.

Edit: Lithuanian flag is interesting
 
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