There are a ton of 48v to 12v dc converters available, seems they were developed to allow use of 12v accessories in golf carts.
I know two people who had their cars stolen in the last month. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of toddlers out there who weren't taught the same way we were.
Yes, but not for a thousand watt+ sub amp. I'm also anticipating massive ground loop noise problems with these things. And ideally you wouldn't step the voltage down only to step it back up for the output side. They typically run around 60V or so. But I would think you could just directly modulate the 48v and ditch all of the most expensive and heat generating parts of traditional amps.
Those hit. One of the best bass songs ever where it's clean bass. I had 2 12 inchers in my trunk and a variety of 15 other speakers in my 1980 Honda Accord back in 1993 and loved that track along with NWA. Thanks for the reminder. Have to make a play list for the CT. Picking up this week. Can't wait.
A Quick Look and I found a couple 60A and one 100A unit. For ground issues a serious braided busbar would be in order. I'm not a serious audiophile, but have tinkered around and built dozens of electronic projects, most way beyond this in complexity. Creating / deriving 12V in required amounts should not be a showstopper - EVER. Having ways to test is essential, of course.
@RollingRefrigerator, thank you for this write-up. I just picked up my Cybertruck today (late 1600's VIN) and saw exactly what you were saying about the Frunk/hood alignment. It's like the hood sits lower than the fenders, albeit slightly. Only noticeable at certain angles when you're close to the truck. Really helped that you said yours had it too, so it's either a design choice, or all of us early builds are in it together. The rest of the build was excellent, BTW. Thanks again!If folks aren't tired of these threads yet, here are my initial impressions 21 miles into to this adventure:
The Good:
- Driving feel is outstanding. I don't agree with all these comments about SbW taking some getting used to. For me it was intuitive and smooth, and I never felt uncertain about what the truck would with a given steering input. Tesla nailed this.
- It drives like a tesla. I didn't notice the size until i accelerated through a corner. And even then it felt predictable and sure footed, just with more body roll than a sportscar, obviously. Normal driving felt like my model 3P which is def a good thing. Not as fast as my M3P, but to me it feels equivalent to my wife's MYP, even though it's not. I don't regret passing on the Beast, and (see above) I've never before bought a car that wasn't the fastest of the product line (Audi S6, M3, etc)
- Luxurious feel. The pics look sparse and clean, but once inside it feels plush and polished
- Too early on range, but I'm very encouraged. I averaged about 380 w/mi in my first 21 miles, mostly stop and go traffic on 101, but with several spirited starts from lights and a lot of button pressing in the parking lots of course
- So roomy and open! The steering wheel is tiny, but it's all you need and feels like an indy car. That means so much space for everything else. No stalks, etc, it's just wide open. Plus the high ceiling and panoramic glass make it feel like you're in a ballroom. But again I am more of a m3 or MY daily driver, although I have a silverado and this is much more open feeling. In the driving pic here, the steering wheel is near its lowest setting, but look at the lap clearance.
- Everyone has raved about the sound system, but I haven't heard a single detail, just "it rocks" or whatever. I'm a 40 something life long bass addict/ car audio nut, since back in my high school booming days. One of my biggest concerns with CT is the lack of 48V car audio solutions. With that context, yes, it's very very good. Bass wise, obviously it will not hold a candle to a decent aftermarket system. But it's the best stock sub I've ever heard by far. I still think i will need more though.... yeah, I know, it's a problem. Mid and high detail is good but not exceptional. Again some decent component 8s or even 6.5s with a quality amp would probably do better and definitely louder. In my opinion equivalent in clarity to my M3P. BUT THE SOUNDSTAGE! I think in coming days we will hear about how they worked to use multiple speakers in the dash against that giant windscreen to project the front stage out and wide. I've never heard so clearly the spatial separation between the singer and drummer, etc, or heard it so perfectly at stage level instead of clearly coming from the doors with a tinny fill speaker in the a pillar. Really good work, JUST SOMEONE DEVELOP A 48V SUB AMP! Should be MUCH cheaper to make and more efficient since the first thing 12V amps do is step up the voltage bigly.
The bad (maybe):
- Very little, I'm thrilled. But...
- Had some spots that looked suspect (like maybe scuffs or stains i couldn't just clean) and they offered to clean it. They said they had to buff it to clean it. Took 30 min, and it was clean, but... there is a spot where it is noticeably shinier/ smoother on that panel now. I think they advising refinished it and didn't use just the right texture. I'm sure they will fix it and only I noticed it so far, but FYI be aware that even at what is probably one of the busiest delivery centers in the country (Sunnyvale), they are figured this out as they go. He also said don't use any chemicals on it, but use alcohol only (which I would say is a chemical but whatever). I'm ignoring all of that and will test out Sheila Shine tomorrow.
- The vertical alignment difference
between the frunk and the quarter panel is sizable. So there is a knife like edge from the quarter that sticks past the frunk edge. I compared with another CT on the lot and they were the same. Not a big deal to me, but not ideal. Anyone else notice this or maybe just this batch? Will try to take a pic tomorrow.
- In person that frunk is pretty silly. Might fit a few bags of groceries I guess, but you'll be using the bed a lot, even for smallish luggage, which is annoying unless you have a bed divider
- service advisor said they would mail me the wall charger and power share hardware. That's totally not true, and whatever, but it was annoying she was more in the dark than me despite handing these over all day every day (according to her)
- yeah, I'll be OK when I no longer walk out to the parking lot to find a hoard of nerds ogling (and fingerprinting) my car... I thought it was interesting the almost equal split between "omg a CT! Lemme see!", "What is that?!", and absolutely zero notice or reaction or give a crap. 3 way split.
Just get a 120V amp and plug it into the outlet and sub, no need to go 48V.If folks aren't tired of these threads yet, here are my initial impressions 21 miles into to this adventure:
The Good:
- Driving feel is outstanding. I don't agree with all these comments about SbW taking some getting used to. For me it was intuitive and smooth, and I never felt uncertain about what the truck would with a given steering input. Tesla nailed this.
- It drives like a tesla. I didn't notice the size until i accelerated through a corner. And even then it felt predictable and sure footed, just with more body roll than a sportscar, obviously. Normal driving felt like my model 3P which is def a good thing. Not as fast as my M3P, but to me it feels equivalent to my wife's MYP, even though it's not. I don't regret passing on the Beast, and (see above) I've never before bought a car that wasn't the fastest of the product line (Audi S6, M3, etc)
- Luxurious feel. The pics look sparse and clean, but once inside it feels plush and polished
- Too early on range, but I'm very encouraged. I averaged about 380 w/mi in my first 21 miles, mostly stop and go traffic on 101, but with several spirited starts from lights and a lot of button pressing in the parking lots of course
- So roomy and open! The steering wheel is tiny, but it's all you need and feels like an indy car. That means so much space for everything else. No stalks, etc, it's just wide open. Plus the high ceiling and panoramic glass make it feel like you're in a ballroom. But again I am more of a m3 or MY daily driver, although I have a silverado and this is much more open feeling. In the driving pic here, the steering wheel is near its lowest setting, but look at the lap clearance.
- Everyone has raved about the sound system, but I haven't heard a single detail, just "it rocks" or whatever. I'm a 40 something life long bass addict/ car audio nut, since back in my high school booming days. One of my biggest concerns with CT is the lack of 48V car audio solutions. With that context, yes, it's very very good. Bass wise, obviously it will not hold a candle to a decent aftermarket system. But it's the best stock sub I've ever heard by far. I still think i will need more though.... yeah, I know, it's a problem. Mid and high detail is good but not exceptional. Again some decent component 8s or even 6.5s with a quality amp would probably do better and definitely louder. In my opinion equivalent in clarity to my M3P. BUT THE SOUNDSTAGE! I think in coming days we will hear about how they worked to use multiple speakers in the dash against that giant windscreen to project the front stage out and wide. I've never heard so clearly the spatial separation between the singer and drummer, etc, or heard it so perfectly at stage level instead of clearly coming from the doors with a tinny fill speaker in the a pillar. Really good work, JUST SOMEONE DEVELOP A 48V SUB AMP! Should be MUCH cheaper to make and more efficient since the first thing 12V amps do is step up the voltage bigly.
The bad (maybe):
- Very little, I'm thrilled. But...
- Had some spots that looked suspect (like maybe scuffs or stains i couldn't just clean) and they offered to clean it. They said they had to buff it to clean it. Took 30 min, and it was clean, but... there is a spot where it is noticeably shinier/ smoother on that panel now. I think they advising refinished it and didn't use just the right texture. I'm sure they will fix it and only I noticed it so far, but FYI be aware that even at what is probably one of the busiest delivery centers in the country (Sunnyvale), they are figured this out as they go. He also said don't use any chemicals on it, but use alcohol only (which I would say is a chemical but whatever). I'm ignoring all of that and will test out Sheila Shine tomorrow.
- The vertical alignment difference
between the frunk and the quarter panel is sizable. So there is a knife like edge from the quarter that sticks past the frunk edge. I compared with another CT on the lot and they were the same. Not a big deal to me, but not ideal. Anyone else notice this or maybe just this batch? Will try to take a pic tomorrow.
- In person that frunk is pretty silly. Might fit a few bags of groceries I guess, but you'll be using the bed a lot, even for smallish luggage, which is annoying unless you have a bed divider
- service advisor said they would mail me the wall charger and power share hardware. That's totally not true, and whatever, but it was annoying she was more in the dark than me despite handing these over all day every day (according to her)
- yeah, I'll be OK when I no longer walk out to the parking lot to find a hoard of nerds ogling (and fingerprinting) my car... I thought it was interesting the almost equal split between "omg a CT! Lemme see!", "What is that?!", and absolutely zero notice or reaction or give a crap. 3 way split.
Totally with you on the 120v home audio sub thought. I even looked into some options that might fit under the rear seats. I haven't pulled the trigger, but something like this might work: https://a.co/d/8SPHvrnJust get a 120V amp and plug it into the outlet and sub, no need to go 48V.
You could go all out with a tube amp, but probably won't last long in a moving vehicle from all the good (and bad) vibes.
Not sure how you will get the audio out of the CT setup at a line level though, that seems a bigger problem. You'd have to tap the Ethernet bus and figure out which packets are the audio channels. From what I understand the audio amps are distributed amongst the speakers and synced and tuned via ethernet timing. You could potentially tap the speaker coils directly and level shift them, but you'd then have to demod all the speaker equalisation to get a staright signal, and that would be different on each speaker they use as thay would be a part of the tuning they did to get the best out of the speakers.
But with bass, its important to keep the levels within range of the rest of the system for something that represents the studio recording. More bass isn't always more good, unless of course you want to impress the neighbours and give yourself a acoustic lobotomy. But for that maybe external subs would save your rep and some nasel bleeds?
I think you missed my point because I didn't explain it fully.
31.25"Possible to get a measurement from the tailgate to the ground in the lowest entry mode setting? Have not been able to find the height measurement
