FSD 14.1.2 adds MAD MAX speed profile

[dalton108]

So FSD is lacking/unsafe because someone "may" have not checked their mirrors before merging lanes on the highway?

Again, passing on the right is a valid maneuver depending on the situation, especially this one with someone riding in the passing lane. I'd like to see an example video if you are going to say something is unsafe.

I agree. I don’t want FSD concerning itself what somebody else thinks or feels about a perfectly legal maneuver. I’m all for being courteous but I know that people were taught to drive in different ways by different people under different laws and I am not concerned with other drivers sensibilities. That’s a level of people pleasing I can’t even fathom.

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[SlegMD]

I don’t do a lot of roadtrippingbin a year so I forget the things that FSD does that boil my blood. It is very consistent about passing vehicles before an exit as long as iT is more than a mile from the exit, no matter the grade, the traffic, etc. Today it did that 3 times with semis, and I wised up and stopped FSD after two times. Can you imagine what semi drivers think of us when we pass them and then almost immediately exit? I don’t, but I cannot imagine it being nice. I hope that V14 fixes that but I doubt it will.

In these instances I wish FSD considered GPS and traffic flow, preparing more effectively for exits in general. Experience is that FSD just responds to surrounding traffic at any given time. It is infuriating the CT wants to pass when an exit is approaching and traffic bottlenecks are common, then be stuck in the traffic lane trying to merge again and have to rely on someone else’s generosity.

 

[hemiarch]

There are also enough teslas on the road that awareness of each other especially as it relates to SOC not just traffic patterns could eventually become valuable information.

 

[dalton108]

In these instances I wish FSD considered GPS and traffic flow, preparing more effectively for exits in general. Experience is that FSD just responds to surrounding traffic at any given time. It is infuriating the CT wants to pass when an exit is approaching and traffic bottlenecks are common, then be stuck in the traffic lane trying to merge again and have to rely on someone else’s generosity.

I’m sure that’s a big part of what we’re supposed to be getting in v14.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

The way I see it, if the piddlers would move over when they’re not passing, we wouldn’t have to pass on the right. I’m fine with it doing that. I hope people see how pathetic they are for sitting in the left lane doing the speed limit getting passed on the right by a robot.

I can see situations just yesterday for being a ‘piddler’ as you call it: needing to pass a line of semis, have really rough road on the right, being in a line of cars , etc. if it is just driving slow with nothing on the right then sure but labeling people just to rationalize your behavior isn’t right either. Anyway I doubt true ‘piddlers’ are paying any attention.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

In these instances I wish FSD considered GPS and traffic flow, preparing more effectively for exits in general. Experience is that FSD just responds to surrounding traffic at any given time. It is infuriating the CT wants to pass when an exit is approaching and traffic bottlenecks are common, then be stuck in the traffic lane trying to merge again and have to rely on someone else’s generosity.

Elon has always made a big deal about how our vision allows us to drive safely and so vision is the way to go. And I have always agreed. But, as you say, FSD is not looking beyond a car or two, and we often have to look 1/4 - 1/2 a mile ahead to decide what to do. These are not edge cases; this is just good driving.

 

[ABILISK]

I can see situations just yesterday for being a ‘piddler’ as you call it: needing to pass a line of semis, have really rough road on the right, being in a line of cars , etc. if it is just driving slow with nothing on the right then sure but labeling people just to rationalize your behavior isn’t right either. Anyway I doubt true ‘piddlers’ are paying any attention.

Very true that the piddlers don’t pay attention. They’re completely oblivious to the world around them. They get on the freeway, fight their way to the left lane as fast as possible, then sit there happy as can be driving the speed on those weird little signs on the side of the road. It’s not really labeling, just describing. And whether I’m driving myself or getting driven by my robot, we’re passing these pathetic wastes of life on the right without hesitation.

 

[CyberGus]

Will do on the Chuy’s

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[CyberGus]

In these instances I wish FSD considered GPS and traffic flow

What I want for the FSD navigation is to evaluate "maneuver difficulty", rather than obsessing over time optimization.

For instance, my neighborhood exits onto a divided highway in two places, less than 0.1mi apart. I frequently need to turn left, but only 1 intersection is regulated by a traffic light. FSD always picks the one that is closest, but as a driver I would almost never choose the unprotected left.

OTOH, we are still in the beta phase of FSD development, so it will never learn how to handle the hard stuff if it's always avoided.

 

[CyberGus]

Speaking of food, I picked up a cheesesteak from Austin's "Delaware Subs" yesterday, and the cashier told me how they had a $1000+ lunch order every day for months. They finally asked the delivery driver where they were going, and they said "SpaceX"! (Bastrop, not Boca Chica).

One day, the driver picked up the last order. "Party's over, guys... they just finished the cafeteria" lol

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