FSD (Supervised) -- One week into ownership

[Vladimer]

A week into ownership and 1000 miles driven, a lot of it on FSD, I am generally impressed with the FSD capabilities. I had never experienced FSD, so all of this was net new to me. Some things I noticed and some questions I have for other, more experienced, owners:

1. Really only had one "fatal" disengagement where the truck tried to turn left about 100 feet short of the light it was supposed to turn at. It wasn't trying to do it in an unsafe manner, it just wanted to turn prematurely which I thought was odd.
2. There's a decent amount of errors I would call harmless. For example, announcing it is turning onto "Interstate [XX] North" when navigation is actually taking the interstate southbound as intended.
3. For me, anyways, until I get more comfortable with it, the right-hand lane hugging is disconcerting, particularly on two lane rural roads. I wish there was a setting to have it stay more centered. There have been times where it ran on the rumble strips without correcting off of them. I suspect there is nothing to be done here except wait for more CT FSD data to help improve this?
4. The single most annoying aspect I can't figure out is how to get it to stay at or around my preferred speed. I would expect to be able to set it to stay roughly at, for example, 9 miles over the speed limit on highway driving. And, at first, it will travel at 64 in a 55 if I engage it in that fashion. However, slowly over time it will drop back to even sub 55. Insult to injury, it will stay in the left lane of a road while doing so. I've adjusted the max speed using the scroll wheel all the way to the max (80 I think) but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. The end result is that I have to move out of other people's way (from behind) manually which detracts from the success of the self-driving. Would welcome thoughts on whether this is typical or there is something I can do or something I'm maybe doing wrong. Ironically, I had to do an emergency Grok search Day 1 on the way home from delivery because FSD was going like 78 in a 55, which was how I learned about the scroll wheel. ?

Appreciate any inputs!

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[Gigahorse]

A week into ownership and 1000 miles driven, a lot of it on FSD, I am generally impressed with the FSD capabilities. I had never experienced FSD, so all of this was net new to me. Some things I noticed and some questions I have for other, more experienced, owners:

1. Really only had one "fatal" disengagement where the truck tried to turn left about 100 feet short of the light it was supposed to turn at. It wasn't trying to do it in an unsafe manner, it just wanted to turn prematurely which I thought was odd.
2. There's a decent amount of errors I would call harmless. For example, announcing it is turning onto "Interstate [XX] North" when navigation is actually taking the interstate southbound as intended.
3. For me, anyways, until I get more comfortable with it, the right-hand lane hugging is disconcerting, particularly on two lane rural roads. I wish there was a setting to have it stay more centered. There have been times where it ran on the rumble strips without correcting off of them. I suspect there is nothing to be done here except wait for more CT FSD data to help improve this?
4. The single most annoying aspect I can't figure out is how to get it to stay at or around my preferred speed. I would expect to be able to set it to stay roughly at, for example, 9 miles over the speed limit on highway driving. And, at first, it will travel at 64 in a 55 if I engage it in that fashion. However, slowly over time it will drop back to even sub 55. Insult to injury, it will stay in the left lane of a road while doing so. I've adjusted the max speed using the scroll wheel all the way to the max (80 I think) but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. The end result is that I have to move out of other people's way (from behind) manually which detracts from the success of the self-driving. Would welcome thoughts on whether this is typical or there is something I can do or something I'm maybe doing wrong. Ironically, I had to do an emergency Grok search Day 1 on the way home from delivery because FSD was going like 78 in a 55, which was how I learned about the scroll wheel. ?

Appreciate any inputs!

Changing settings from Chill, Standard, Hurry will help with speed and you can scroll wheel set to fine tune.

The FSD system is far from ready to not be supervised, it is a nice cruise control on the highway but the # of your #1 disengagements are real so stay alert.

 

[JCERRN]

Regarding staying centered; especially on highway, this is a commonly reported issue, hugging the left. You have 2 options: hold the steering wheel and gently correct it or disengage and report it and then reengage once centered. I suppose a 3rd option is use TACC and steer the truck yourself. Though FSD(S) can technically operate without the driver holding the steeringwheel due to attentiveness monitoring, all of the “user guides” posted by tesla state that the driver should keep hands on wheel at all times, and be prepared to intervene at any time.

Regarding your speed, it helped me to understand how FSD decides how fast to go. First and foremost, the speed you are driving at when you engage, the speed limit on the road and the type of road you are driving will all play a part in the speed FSD selects.
Next, your speed offset determines how far above the speed limit your truck will go if it is able to. For some reason (unknown to me) tesla recommends 40%. I keep it around 10-15%. When you adjust the speed with the scroll wheel, you are setting a maximum speed the truck can go.
then you have your fsd mode (chill, standard, hurry) ive found that in standard your car is more likely to cruise at the flow of traffic, and roughly around your offset speed, and in hurry, it will stay closer to the max set speed.
finally, you can always prompt fsd to pick up the pace by stepping on the accelerator a bit, and it often takes the hint to speed up if it can, but it doesnt like it if you keep the pedal pressed even a little bit for more than a few seconds. It first says it “will not brake, accelerator pedal pressed” then starts flashing blue, then red and beeps at you. I havent taken it further than this as i dont want a strike out.

anyway, i think its like learning to train a dog, you gotta learn its personality. Honestly, sometimes i think FSD has moods too, some days it does great and i have to do 0 intervention from start to finish, and it even pulls out of my driveway and into a parking spot on its own. Other days i disengage on drives i make regularly multiple times per mile… remember, this system is still in training and you are the trainer. Dont get too frustrated by it. Either way, just by driving your truck you are helping to train the system

 

[Sjohnson20]

I do 15% over and on standard. Sometimes I use chill if I'm in a very congested area or construction.

The running over the line reflectors happens to everyone at some point it seems. Mine is more on the left line and during turns in the road. Hopefully we will get a significant update soon.

 

[ecotrials]

I do 15% over and on standard. Sometimes I use chill if I'm in a very congested area or construction.

The running over the line reflectors happens to everyone at some point it seems. Mine is more on the left side of the lineturns in the road. Hopefully we will get a significant update soon.

I, too, experience way too often the creepiness of right hand bends on freeways where I am deciding “ok FSD, that is just too much” being so far over the line or way too close to the fast lane divider. Driving up to the mountains in the fast lane there was a strip of asphalt that had a drainage channel my left tires were riding on. This is by FAR, for me at least, the most concerning, ESPECIALLY with others riding with me.
I usually have the CT in Standard and 10% over the limit max. After the experience above I am trying to just go the speed limit (65) and it seems to stay in the lane a little better. I have been dialing down the speed with the scroll wheel but will reset to stick to the speed limit for the drive home. I expect to have to get out of the way for 90% of traffic ?

 

[Scorpious]

Anyone having issues with FSD in town trying to cut left hand corners way to close enough so that I have to take over where there is a median it could run over? It's like it doesn't take into account the rear wheels turning and or the length of the truck?

 

[Beetlebug62]

A week into ownership and 1000 miles driven, a lot of it on FSD, I am generally impressed with the FSD capabilities. I had never experienced FSD, so all of this was net new to me. Some things I noticed and some questions I have for other, more experienced, owners:

1. Really only had one "fatal" disengagement where the truck tried to turn left about 100 feet short of the light it was supposed to turn at. It wasn't trying to do it in an unsafe manner, it just wanted to turn prematurely which I thought was odd.
2. There's a decent amount of errors I would call harmless. For example, announcing it is turning onto "Interstate [XX] North" when navigation is actually taking the interstate southbound as intended.
3. For me, anyways, until I get more comfortable with it, the right-hand lane hugging is disconcerting, particularly on two lane rural roads. I wish there was a setting to have it stay more centered. There have been times where it ran on the rumble strips without correcting off of them. I suspect there is nothing to be done here except wait for more CT FSD data to help improve this?
4. The single most annoying aspect I can't figure out is how to get it to stay at or around my preferred speed. I would expect to be able to set it to stay roughly at, for example, 9 miles over the speed limit on highway driving. And, at first, it will travel at 64 in a 55 if I engage it in that fashion. However, slowly over time it will drop back to even sub 55. Insult to injury, it will stay in the left lane of a road while doing so. I've adjusted the max speed using the scroll wheel all the way to the max (80 I think) but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. The end result is that I have to move out of other people's way (from behind) manually which detracts from the success of the self-driving. Would welcome thoughts on whether this is typical or there is something I can do or something I'm maybe doing wrong. Ironically, I had to do an emergency Grok search Day 1 on the way home from delivery because FSD was going like 78 in a 55, which was how I learned about the scroll wheel. ?

Appreciate any inputs!

Some thoughts on yours: (1) never had an early turn, that's odd. There have been reports of Teslas picking the wrong turn lane ending up in the opposing traffic lane, and being slow to correct because of having to cross a solid line.

(2) Like one, I haven't had it misname an exit. What does your display show? Does it also show the misnamed exit?

(3) My CT hugs the left lane line, yours hugs the right? Never had that. Having said that, when I first got FSD v12, my Model 3 didn't hug the right, but it definitely drifted off to the right, often running on the edge of the road, which is bad on country roads.

(4) My feeling is the speed drifts back down to what the vehicle is comfortable with. And in "hurry" mode, will drive faster if it sees a vehicle behind. Not necessary to remind it. It's a bit odd. Under FSDv11, my Model 3 stayed right at the set limit. Then they added auto-speed, and things changed, but improved over time. Hopefully, as they gain more data, presumably it'll all get better. It's so close to being great..

 

[Beetlebug62]

Anyone having issues with FSD in town trying to cut left hand corners way to close enough so that I have to take over where there is a median it could run over? It's like it doesn't take into account the rear wheels turning and or the length of the truck?

Not in my CT, but it was common in early versions of FSDv12 in my Model 3. I remember several reports of people mentioning hitting curbs in the median.

 

[EVnewbie]

Anyone having issues with FSD in town trying to cut left hand corners way to close enough so that I have to take over where there is a median it could run over? It's like it doesn't take into account the rear wheels turning and or the length of the truck?

Yes, and this is probably my #1 reason for disengaging. It constantly does this, cut it WAY too close

 

[noobla3]

I don’t hear many reports of tailgating, so maybe this is just personal preference but I feel FSD follows way too closely especially on congested highways where speeds range from 45 - 60 mph. I often disengage and drive manually because of this.

 

[jeniferkey]

For the speed being too slow I tend to push on the accelerator many times on my typical drive to ‘remind’ it of the speed. It does get mad if I push to the point of going over my set speed, so I try not to do that. It seems to do better with a car to follow, so it happens a lot to me on empty country roads. There I have it set to hurry (button on the right pushed to the right), but for speed limits of 75 or higher I use the accelerator a lot. It’ll be nice if that ever gets fixed, but I find it worth it to have it steering for me at least.

 

[Jimo]

A week into ownership and 1000 miles driven, a lot of it on FSD, I am generally impressed with the FSD capabilities. I had never experienced FSD, so all of this was net new to me. Some things I noticed and some questions I have for other, more experienced, owners:

1. Really only had one "fatal" disengagement where the truck tried to turn left about 100 feet short of the light it was supposed to turn at. It wasn't trying to do it in an unsafe manner, it just wanted to turn prematurely which I thought was odd.
2. There's a decent amount of errors I would call harmless. For example, announcing it is turning onto "Interstate [XX] North" when navigation is actually taking the interstate southbound as intended.
3. For me, anyways, until I get more comfortable with it, the right-hand lane hugging is disconcerting, particularly on two lane rural roads. I wish there was a setting to have it stay more centered. There have been times where it ran on the rumble strips without correcting off of them. I suspect there is nothing to be done here except wait for more CT FSD data to help improve this?
4. The single most annoying aspect I can't figure out is how to get it to stay at or around my preferred speed. I would expect to be able to set it to stay roughly at, for example, 9 miles over the speed limit on highway driving. And, at first, it will travel at 64 in a 55 if I engage it in that fashion. However, slowly over time it will drop back to even sub 55. Insult to injury, it will stay in the left lane of a road while doing so. I've adjusted the max speed using the scroll wheel all the way to the max (80 I think) but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. The end result is that I have to move out of other people's way (from behind) manually which detracts from the success of the self-driving. Would welcome thoughts on whether this is typical or there is something I can do or something I'm maybe doing wrong. Ironically, I had to do an emergency Grok search Day 1 on the way home from delivery because FSD was going like 78 in a 55, which was how I learned about the scroll wheel. ?

Appreciate any inputs!

I have the same problem with speed management. I would like it to maintain the set speed, then if I need to, I can adjust up or down with scroll wheel. As it is I frequently have to adjust it BACK to my set speed! On my previous Model X it was not an issue! C'MON TESLA, I'm pretty sure it can be fixed!!

 

[JCERRN]

Has anyone noticed that when you engage FSD then adjust the speed up it sets a ridiculous max? Ive been on city streets going 25mph and go to increase it to say 35 but when i flick the scroll wheel up, it says something ridiculous like 50mph. This has happened a few times. Obviously its not like the car is gonna go that speed but still.

 

[CyberLucky]

3. For me, anyways, until I get more comfortable with it, the right-hand lane hugging is disconcerting, particularly on two lane rural roads. I wish there was a setting to have it stay more centered. There have been times where it ran on the rumble strips without correcting off of them. I suspect there is nothing to be done here except wait for more CT FSD data to help improve this?

I have a similar issue on some gravel roads on which the safest route when no one is coming is to go down the middle, but the truck imagines a double yellow line in the middle and then a red alert pops up with "Emergency steering intervention - crossing lanes" or something like that, and it tries to steer to the right side (this is while regularly driving, not FSD). The gravel roads slope at their edges and it's not the safest place to drive, unless you need to get out of the way of oncoming traffic. I disable FSD on these roads because it's very aggressive, drives too fast, and has headed to the ditch on more than one occassion.

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