Less control on FSD v14

[Doc John]

So the version definitely hands my country roads better, smoother passing and overall improved. However, now you can’t switch back to traffic aware Cruise without stopping and you can’t adjust speed on the fly. The modes don’t seem to follow the Relative offset. If I have it set at +4 even in chill it will get up to as much as 15 over posted speed and no way to adjust on the fly. I have to just disengage FSD. Any ideas why they did that?

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[mark555055c]

For simplicity. If you need to stick to the speed limit, sloth mode is it.

If chill is going 15 over, i imagine surrounding traffic must also be going that fast. Ive not had chill do 15 over. Ive not even had standard do 15 over myself.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

The speed seems to be way off on FSD 14.

On a 55mph highway in standard mode it had no problem going 15mph+ over. It wasn't flow of traffic either, in standard mode it was passing everyone. It kept going to the left lane and going 5-10mph more than flow of traffic. Funny enough I passed a Model S who was getting a speeding ticket shortly after I turned off FSD because it wanted me to get in trouble. I assume the Model S didn't turn off FSD.

Later on I was on a 55mph country road, FSD was certain it was 45mph, despite repeatedly passing the 55mph signs.

The actual driving and maneuvering is very impressive. But there needs to be a way to better control the speed, or for us to send the speeding fines to Tesla to cover.

 

[SlegMD]

Mad max was maintaining far right lane, chill in the left lane, wife said turn that shit off now. lol there is some inconsistency for sure

 

[georgek43]

So the version definitely hands my country roads better, smoother passing and overall improved. However, now you can’t switch back to traffic aware Cruise without stopping and you can’t adjust speed on the fly. The modes don’t seem to follow the Relative offset. If I have it set at +4 even in chill it will get up to as much as 15 over posted speed and no way to adjust on the fly. I have to just disengage FSD. Any ideas why they did that?

So the version definitely hands my country roads better, smoother passing and overall improved. However, now you can’t switch back to traffic aware Cruise without stopping and you can’t adjust speed on the fly. The modes don’t seem to follow the Relative offset. If I have it set at +4 even in chill it will get up to as much as 15 over posted speed and no way to adjust on the fly. I have to just disengage FSD. Any ideas why they did that?

Although the Tesla programmers do a wonderful job overall, they apparently think that AI speed profiles are better at managing speed than us humans. The problem is not FSD simply going over the speed limit to match traffic. A huge part of the problem is inaccurate speed limits programmed in the navigation system. Most of my community is posted 25mph but the truck thinks it’s 45mph, on some areas it’s posted 15mph, but the truck thinks it’s 30mph, on my home street it’s posted 35mph, truck says 35 going west, but 45 going east. I find the truck displays inaccurate speed limits all over my state and on many roads, both highways, secondary roads, and especially in neighborhoods. Indeed, my ’supervision’ of FSD rarely involves steering interventions, but ALWAYS, on every single trip, involves speed adjustment interventions, and I’ve learned to do this with minimal aggravation as part of FSD. It is virtually impossible for the mapping to have flawlessly correct speed limits everywhere. Having a manual speed limit override is an invaluable safety necessity and MUST be restored. Otherwise we’re all going to either be turning off FSD frequently, or getting a lot of speeding tickets. Either significantly reduces the joy of owning a Tesla, and will defeat the logic of FSD being safer than the human driver. This decision to remove manual override control of maximum speed is foolish and is the type of hubris that will really hurt FSD. We must have the max speed option control back.

 

[Sjohnson20]

They are trying to achieve autonomy. Like you are riding in a taxi and not doing anything. So that's their reasoning.

 

[Gaximus]

Disengage and report, sound pissed, the audio uses AI to detect stress levels and prioritizes those reports. Also has anyone figure out how to disengage with using the steering wheel to “break free” or the brake pedal?

 

[65SoYoLO]

Disengage and report, sound pissed, the audio uses AI to detect stress levels and prioritizes those reports. Also has anyone figure out how to disengage with using the steering wheel to “break free” or the brake pedal?

Push the right scroll wheel again.

 

[SeattleTom]

So the version definitely hands my country roads better, smoother passing and overall improved. However, now you can’t switch back to traffic aware Cruise without stopping and you can’t adjust speed on the fly. The modes don’t seem to follow the Relative offset. If I have it set at +4 even in chill it will get up to as much as 15 over posted speed and no way to adjust on the fly. I have to just disengage FSD. Any ideas why they did that?

Embrace the Robotaxi. Relax and let the car drive. If it really is going 15 over (and everyone else is doing the same), you can set it to Sloth and it won’t exceed the speed limit. I know nobody who drives at the speed limit though.

 

[jeniferkey]

I have too many roads where the truck says speed is much higher than it actually is. Out of my driveway the speed is 25 and the truck posts 60. I guess I’ll wait on this update. I wish sloth were 10 below, chill was set speed, etc. and those speeds could at least be set in settings.

 

[AlmostHuman]

Please give us autosteer on the Cybertruck. Please.

 

[Gaximus]

Push the right scroll wheel again.

That didnt disconnect for me, it used to in 13

 

[65SoYoLO]

That didnt disconnect for me, it used to in 13

Great. I have a name for the new update...
Reverse improvements.

 

[REM]

Although the Tesla programmers do a wonderful job overall, they apparently think that AI speed profiles are better at managing speed than us humans. The problem is not FSD simply going over the speed limit to match traffic. A huge part of the problem is inaccurate speed limits programmed in the navigation system. Most of my community is posted 25mph but the truck thinks it’s 45mph, on some areas it’s posted 15mph, but the truck thinks it’s 30mph, on my home street it’s posted 35mph, truck says 35 going west, but 45 going east. I find the truck displays inaccurate speed limits all over my state and on many roads, both highways, secondary roads, and especially in neighborhoods. Indeed, my ’supervision’ of FSD rarely involves steering interventions, but ALWAYS, on every single trip, involves speed adjustment interventions, and I’ve learned to do this with minimal aggravation as part of FSD. It is virtually impossible for the mapping to have flawlessly correct speed limits everywhere. Having a manual speed limit override is an invaluable safety necessity and MUST be restored. Otherwise we’re all going to either be turning off FSD frequently, or getting a lot of speeding tickets. Either significantly reduces the joy of owning a Tesla, and will defeat the logic of FSD being safer than the human driver. This decision to remove manual override control of maximum speed is foolish and is the type of hubris that will really hurt FSD. We must have the max speed option control back.

The devs are weaning us off of manual input. It's the right path forward, but it comes with growing pains. Also, most of the speed errors are the government's fault for having flat-out incorrect GIS data.

Disengage, and send a proper report and these issues will start clearing up. Along with submitting map data corrections too.

 

[REM]

Please give us autosteer on the Cybertruck. Please.

Simply not going to happen at this point; they aren't going to fragment the stack again as the end state is to remove input from the drivers completely.

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