Model X plaid has a much better sound system than cybertruck.

[CyberTexas]

These are all baseless arguments. Some people like Pepsi, some like Coke. No two perspectives are the same.

Except when it comes to the Tesla lead engineer’s opinion….

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[CyberT]

I swear I was just driving yesterday and thought that the sub wasn't hitting as hard as I thought it was supposed to be. I put on a bass-heavy track that ive used for demos in the past and turned the sub up and down, and heard little difference in the bass output.

I mean, it still sounded good, but not what dual 10's should sound like or what I remembered when first getting the truck.

Later in the day, I drove my wife's 2018 Model3 with premium audio, and the single 8" sub was hitting harder than what I just heard in my truck.

Something happened or changed in the audio. Not sure when it happened, but I am gonna take it to the service center for a second set of ears.

 

[Cybertrucker901]

Except when it comes to the Tesla lead engineer’s opinion….

The Tesla lead engineer’s opinion is just that, an opinion, an opinion no better than yours or mine. As the old saying goes, “Beauty is in the eye (or in this case, ear) or the beholder.

 

[CyberTexas]

The Tesla lead engineer’s opinion is just that, an opinion, an opinion no better than yours or mine. As the old saying goes, “Beauty is in the eye (or in this case, ear) or the beholder.

Gotta disagree.

Given that he is intimately involved in the development of Tesla vehicles, his opinion carries a lot more weight than anyone here to be honest. And seemingly, he is very much involved in the audio systems of Tesla cars. And don’t forget, he has audio test data from professional audio equipments that they use to develop these audio systems…so it is not his ears alone….

 

[dalton108]

These are all baseless arguments. Some people like Pepsi, some like Coke. No two perspectives are the same.

I generally agree with that. What I don’t agree with is that objective physical differences don’t matter. The S has greater wattage and not just more speakers but better speakers. I already said more about it before:


https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...nd-system-than-cybertruck.47452/post-30654306

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Every reviewer that I ve read and watched has commented something along the lines of “The CT has the best audio system that we’ve ever heard in any vehicle, period”.

I’m no audiophile either, but to my ears it does things I’ve never come close to hearing in any stereo system, including prior MX, S Plaid, etc. While rap isn’t my taste, after playing some Stones, Creedence, Marley, I ask Grok to play Cardi-B. There’s nothing like rap to show the bass capability and the interior’s rattle integrity. I feel lucky to have a CT with no subwoofer rattles or distortion.

My electronics guy at Exotic Solutions in Delray Beach has done a few aftermarket stereo upgrades for me (two F-150’s and a Porsche). He’s slumming when working on my cars, as he has contracts with the local Bentley, Lambo, Ferrari, McLaren dealerships for things like electronic mirrors (can’t drive a Lamborghini without one), glass engine deck conversions, wrapping, custom wheels, custom interiors and stereos, etc. He’s had my CT in a couple times for PPF, tint, and an aborted S92 mirror.

I asked him (Devin) what he would do with the CT’s stereo. He switched my Apple Music over to his test R&B and rap sequence and said he had nothing to offer, that the CT OEM system beat anything that he had installed, including $30k systems in Rolls Royces. He recently did audio upgrades for a few rap gods, Billy Joel, both Williams sisters, Arianna Grande, and Tiger Woods, all of whom are local and happened to have cars in there when I was picking up or dropping off one of our Teslas. Devin wouldn’t turn away work if there was anything to be done that I would notice as an upgrade, so it has become one more reason that I’ll not give up this vehicle despite it’s towing range issues.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Cybertruck Sound System Is Epic: "This Is One of Those Vehicles That You Spend $100K On the Sound System, And It Also Comes With a Truck"

Kyle also went on to say:

This is truly the best sound system I've heard. This is one of those vehicles you spend $100,000 on the sound system, and it also comes with a truck. It's really good in there. The sound stage, the clarity, the separation. Whoever is doing the Tesla audio system, prop's to you guys because this thing doesn't have to have a good sound system, and it absolutely sets the benchmark in a truck.

He also said that the Cybertruck's sound system blows his Rivian's Meridian system out of the water. The Cybertruck has an amazing sound system, that alone, appears to be worth the price of the truck. As noted by several above, a lot of this is subjective, but I think we can all agree that it is pretty good….

https://www.torquenews.com/14335/cy...you-spend-100k-sound-system-and-it-also-comes

 

[CallsignVega]

Can’t account for feelings, anatomical differences between your ear and my ear, and subjective preferences; but, the stats don’t lie. 22 speakers v. 15; 960 watts versus what I’ve seen reported as 560. It’s objectively worse. As both of the AI reported it’s no slouch, it’s just not the best that Tesla makes.

The amount of watts in no way is an indication of which sound system will be better.

 

[dalton108]

The amount of watts in no way is an indication of which sound system will be better.

Only if you don't think that louder is better. I am not such a person.

But for a less flippant response to you; I suppose it's only designed with more wattage because it's is able to present that power with less distortion and because it needs to drive additional speakers (7). You can argue that it's not objectively better all you want. You'll be wrong.

The ultimate sound that comes out of it to some extent is subjective, but there are concrete things that sound engineers and audiophiles consider.

All that said, opinions will forever and always remain just like assholes: Everybody's got one. Under no circumstances are you required to agree with me.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Only if you don't think that louder is better. I am not such a person.

But for a less flippant response to you; I suppose it's only designed with more wattage because it's is able to present that power with less distortion and because it needs to drive additional speakers (7). You can argue that it's not objectively better all you want. You'll be wrong.

The ultimate sound that comes out of it to some extent is subjective, but there are concrete things that sound engineers and audiophiles consider.

All that said, opinions will forever and always remain just like assholes: Everybody's got one. Under no circumstances are you required to agree with me.

Wattage goes out the window with 48-volt architecture.

 

[CyberTexas]

there are concrete things that sound engineers and audiophiles consider.

You mean…….…Wes? I am sure that he did not get his job by being tone deaf…..

 

[CyberTexas]

I suppose it's only designed with more wattage because it's is able to present that power with less distortion and because it needs to drive additional speakers (7). You can argue that it's not objectively better all you want. You'll be wrong.

That is literally what Wes was talking about! Notice how he says that 7 speaker system in the base CT has the same quality as MORE speakers that are on 3 & Y and even those non-Teslas with 30 speakers!

Again, Wes is lead engineer for Tesla. He has audiophile equipment to measure these things at his disposal! He has DATA to support what he is saying. We have assholes, like you said. That is a HUGE DIFFERENCE b/w Wes and us assholes.


Per CT lead engineer Wes:

Number of speakers is not the best metric, just the easiest to quatify. It's more about distribution (sound stage) and actuator sizing (covering the frequency spectrum). I've put many miles on the base truck and the sound system is on par with 3 & Y and above most non-tesla vehicles I've benchmarked (even those that claim 30+ speakers). The Cybertruck premium sound system is just next level (I haven't heard a better OEM package).

 

[TraileringButtocks]

Wattage goes out the window with 48-volt architecture.

I'm an electrical engineer. Can you expand on this comment?

 

[PungoteagueDave]

I'm an electrical engineer. Can you expand on this comment?

I'm not that at all. Just read that the architecture allows Tesla to get more from it's sound system using distributed amplifiers and smaller wiring than would be possible with the same wattage from a 12-v system. Way beyond my pay grade but that's the claim.

 

[TraileringButtocks]

I'm not that at all. Just read that the architecture allows Tesla to get more from it's sound system using distributed amplifiers and smaller wiring than would be possible with the same wattage from a 12-v system. Way beyond my pay grade but that's the claim.

OK, I see. Yeah, that's mixing apples and oranges a bit. The higher voltage distribution does indeed reduce the power dissipated in the wiring, but as far as driving the speaker itself, it doesn't really make much difference. To use an old cultural reference (sorry), the "Crutchfield specs" of the system don't really change with 48V distribution. You're still moving a magnet back and forth in a certain time (1ms for 1kHz tone, for example), so the wattage (energy/time) needed is basically unchanged. But thanks for clarifying what you're referring to in a non-snark manner (much appreciated!). Rock on! (Not 'rap on'! though

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