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Even if i was not a recent Tesla fanboy convert and had not purchased a CT 4 weeks ago, I would have read this article on Yahoo news and just shook my damn head at how bias the MSM is and how much they hate anything Elon related - LINK:

https://autos.yahoo.com/articles/try-sell-cybertruck-going-terrible-211333400.html

First, it is nonsense to write a huge headline about how bad the resale value is and then say prices r down 30%. I mean every car depreciates 20% minimum the minute u drive it off the lot so immediately you know the real purpose of this article is not to be informative but to simply bash the CT. They go on to say it is the ugliest, worst vehicle ever produces and that they are so ill conceived and shoddily made that they might as well be sold for scrap metal. But if somehow u made it to the end of the article and had any doubt as to its purpose, the final paragraph goes out of its way to make sure you understand - THEY HATE ELON:

"As usual, one can take their pick of reasons why Cybertrucks are selling for so cheap. Is it the many, many headlines about how often the cars malfunction and fall apart? Is it the Tesla owner's ever-decreasing popularity? Or might people simply be buying cars less as we continue to hurdle headlong into a recession that Musk and his erstwhile boss stoked from the very start of this year?"

I hope you all enjoy the article as you hurdle headlong into a recession LMFAO!!
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I don’t get it, because every time I read or hear something about massive depreciation, I go on Autotrader and find that prices have not dipped below $70-74k. So unless one purchases a foundation edition which was destined to plummet in value once the regular version was out, the CT is maintaining its value exceptionally well.
 

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I don’t get it, because every time I read or hear something about massive depreciation, I go on Autotrader and find that prices have not dipped below $70-74k. So unless one purchases a foundation edition which was destined to plummet in value once the regular version was out, the CT is maintaining its value exceptionally well.
Yes, absolutely. But as someone who actually fact checks what he reads, you are the exception, most people just believe it like the gullible people they are. You will even see a lot of Tesla shade throwers on this forum trying to spread the fake narrative that the Cybertruck has unusually high depreciation. It's actually unusually low if you compare it to other pickups in the same price range.
 

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shook my damn head at how bias the MSM is and how much they hate anything Elon related
Calling this “MSM” is a bit generous. The story came from “Futurism”, a site of dubious journalistic integrity (they have dozens of Tesla/Musk stories in the last month alone, all universally negative). Yahoo was just reposting as an aggregator.

“Futurism” is basically an OnlyFans for haters 🤷‍♂️
 

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Thanks for summarizing so no one needs to click the links/bait, unintentionally benefiting their ad revenue algorithm or encouraging this malevolent, media malpractice. Might even consider editing your post to remove the links, just in case.

Like most media, I'd rather not be exposed and remain blissfully ignorant of the negativity and propaganda.

The Cybertruck is not for everyone, kind of like how pink or purple hair is only for a niche and doesn't represent the style of the entire population.
 
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I don’t get it, because every time I read or hear something about massive depreciation, I go on Autotrader and find that prices have not dipped below $70-74k. So unless one purchases a foundation edition which was destined to plummet in value once the regular version was out, the CT is maintaining its value exceptionally well.
That doesn't mean anything. People were paying a high amount for CTs on the used market, but couldn't sell them and are still trying not to take a loss. FS are being offered anywhere from 50-60k now, even with low miles (someone here posted with 8k miles).

I don't think there's anything in the article that is incorrect. They've just presented it in the most negative light possible. CTs aren't selling well new and people are struggling to offload them used. They are typically being offered between 60-65k, but all of that is normal for a vehicle that is not supply constrained. You can get a new one for $72k, so of course ones that sold for 100k are taking a "hit" everyone who paid that premium should know that.
 
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Calling this “MSM” is a bit generous. The story came from “Futurism”, a site of dubious journalistic integrity (they have dozens of Tesla/Musk stories in the last month alone, all universally negative). Yahoo was just reposting as an aggregator.

“Futurism” is basically an OnlyFans for haters 🤷‍♂️
Point taken however it was posted on Yahoo news who made the editorial decision to publish it. As i said, i have been an owner for a mere 4 blissfully happy weeks (yea i love this truck lol) and I think it is amazing when i take it out and park publicly or in valet and then review the sentry clips at least half are people walking around it to look at it, trying to look inside it or on multiple occasions taking their pictures with it. If it is so freaking ugly I wonder why this happens lol.
 

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Point taken however it was posted on Yahoo news who made the editorial decision to publish it. As i said, i have been an owner for a mere 4 blissfully happy weeks (yea i love this truck lol) and I think it is amazing when i take it out and park publicly or in valet and then review the sentry clips at least half are people walking around it to look at it, trying to look inside it or on multiple occasions taking their pictures with it. If it is so freaking ugly I wonder why this happens lol.
It's polarizing. Maybe the most polarizing vehicle ever.

Half the people hate it and half love it. The hate can be so strong that some owners sold theirs.

Regardless, that polarization combined with price/range have made demand weak for both new and used CTs.
 

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Calling this “MSM” is a bit generous. The story came from “Futurism”, a site of dubious journalistic integrity (they have dozens of Tesla/Musk stories in the last month alone, all universally negative). Yahoo was just reposting as an aggregator.
I consider Yahoo to loosely be in the "Mainstream Media" category. And, yes, they are "aggregators" too. This is what MSM has become. Sad but true. Using dubious sources to push misleading and fake perspectives.

The change happened with the realization that the real value in owning media companies was no longer in the revenue the advertising created, it was in the ability to change narratives, to control how people think about things, to sway elections, to use the primary media content to change consumer buying behavior. This was a huge and very unfortunate change. Media companies threw journalistic integrity out the window in favor of political and economic power. They only get away with it because most people are still gullible.
 

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I just think it’s crazy that we are almost at 2 years since deliveries started and articles are still being written about the truck. There’s still enough public interest either positive or negative. Has any other vehicle generated this much attention?

I can’t even think of any new product at all that has gone on this long with constant reporting on it. Maybe the iphone? It will be 6 years soon since Elon first showed the truck.
 


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That doesn't mean anything. People were paying a high amount for CTs on the used market, but couldn't sell them and are still trying not to take a loss. FS are being offered anywhere from 50-60k now, even with low miles (someone here posted with 8k miles).

I don't think there's anything in the article that is incorrect. They've just presented it in the most negative light possible. CTs aren't selling well new and people are struggling to offload them used. They are typically being offered between 60-65k, but all of that is normal for a vehicle that is not supply constrained. You can get a new one for $72k, so of course ones that sold for 100k are taking a "hit" everyone who paid that premium should know that.
It's polarizing. Maybe the most polarizing vehicle ever.

Half the people hate it and half love it. The hate can be so strong that some owners sold theirs.

Regardless, that polarization combined with price/range have made demand weak for both new and used CTs.
I think most people have been programmed to hate it. As i pointed out in a previous post, when i starting talking about getting one almost EVERY friend i had made negative comments and said how ugly it was and did a complete 180 once i bought it and they rode in it (1 is actually buying one now and another is trying to talk his wife into it).
 

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Like most media, I'd rather not be exposed and remain blissfully ignorant of the negativity and propaganda.
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This ^^
I swear, people can sometimes so badly want you to hate something that they have no buy-in for, and I often see people here saying that they're afraid of the backlash for having the truck (or they might not say they're afraid, but that's what their post is basically showing).

I love my truck. I also don't care what people say or think about it, because they don't live my life, I do. The truck is perfect for me, and if someone asks, I'll let them know what I love about it, and we can talk (and I'll be honest) about if it would fit them. I'm a hunter, I don't tow things much, I live off a dirt road and I use the bed a lot, so it's perfect for me. And that's all there is! People can shake their heads and fists and fingers, but that's definitely more of a commentary on them. As long as they aren't being aggressive and inappropriate when my kids are in the car, then I not only don't get upset, I'm not bothered enough to even recognize their existence. I promise, life is much better this way :)
 

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Calling this “MSM” is a bit generous. The story came from “Futurism”, a site of dubious journalistic integrity (they have dozens of Tesla/Musk stories in the last month alone, all universally negative). Yahoo was just reposting as an aggregator.

“Futurism” is basically an OnlyFans for haters 🤷‍♂️
Exactly. That last line about the AF wanting to buy them just to blow them up was so misleading.
 

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I think most people have been programmed to hate it. As i pointed out in a previous post, when i starting talking about getting one almost EVERY friend i had made negative comments and said how ugly it was and did a complete 180 once i bought it and they rode in it (1 is actually buying one now and another is trying to talk his wife into it).
I've been saying this for quite a while, but there is a significant and ongoing campaign on social media against Tesla that has spent billions collectively. From domestic entrenched oil tycoons, to foreign Chinese EV competitors.

The only thing that has kept Tesla alive is their insanely good engineering.
 

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I've been saying this for quite a while, but there is a significant and ongoing campaign on social media against Tesla that has spent billions collectively. From domestic entrenched oil tycoons, to foreign Chinese EV competitors.

The only thing that has kept Tesla alive is their insanely good engineering.
Most people have no idea how true this is. They think it's some kind of wild conspiracy theory or something that people would deploy AI web bots against EV's or a company like Tesla (or their CEO).

But Elon knows. When he bought Twitter it was full of AI web bots with fake accounts, many of them programmed to hate on Elon and Tesla. It's pretty hard to tell (at a glance) what is AI and what is a real person when all they are posting is one-line disparaging remarks. And humans are social creatures programmed to go along with the majority. So when they see so many "people" that hate Elon and Tesla, they figure there must be a good reason for it (or so many wouldn't hate him). They don't know it's AI bots programmed to astroturf public opinion.

This is the number one thing that is under-appreciated in public discourse and much of the blame lies with the MSM who may underreport the proliferation of AI-driven web bots—such as those engaging in astroturfing (faking grassroots support via automated comments and posts)—relative to their substantial influence on public opinion for several interconnected reasons. These bots amplify disinformation, manipulate perceptions of consensus, and exploit social conformity, potentially swaying elections, consumer behavior, and policy debates, yet MSM coverage often remains superficial or sporadic.

Many MSM organizations are owned by or financially reliant on tech conglomerates and advertisers that develop or deploy AI, creating incentives to downplay negative stories about bots to preserve relationships and revenue. For instance, MSM outlets increasingly integrate AI for content generation, personalization, and audience engagement, viewing AI as a tool rather than a threat, which encourages MSM reporting to minimize the prevalence and impact of bot-driven manipulation.

Historical astroturfing examples, such as fossil fuel companies funding fake pro-coal social media campaigns, illustrate how corporate interests can suppress scrutiny, and similar dynamics apply to AI bots funded by governments or firms (e.g., China or Russia using them for propaganda or oil companies using them to create skepticism of EVs).

It's time we had a national law that requires those deploying AI bots to disclose that they are not human posters. It could be as simple as requiring the username of the poster begin with "AI-Bot".
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