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My 2022 Cybertruck MSRP predictions. Are you sitting down?

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Yes, because that doesn't have a full sized cab. 149" is only 4" longer. It's 8" shorter than a supercrew which is more in line with the features of a Cybertruck.

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What doesn't have a full size cab?
 

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There are multiple cab configurations for the F150. No back seat (regular cab), half back seat (extra cab), short back seat with doors (supercab/crew), full sized backseat (supercrew).

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Hmmm. I thought that's what I looked up. That I guess we'll chalk up the video to bad driving and wait for final specs.
 

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I am torn between understanding economics and knowing Tesla will charge what the market will bear and the mission of Tesla which calls for cheaper EVs. Elon himself has said they need to be cheaper.

Of course, they have increased the price of all their vehicles many times, they've also dropped them.

I want Tesla to stick to their original prices in order to prove to the naysayers that they were wrong, and to completely obliterate the competition, force them to implement change. Of course, I also want to pay less.

As a shareholder I also want them to make more money.

Bottom line though, I'm going to pissed if they don't offer those with a preorder who commit to actual purchase within a specified time frame the original prices. Perhaps legally they can do whatever they want but I will feel abused by Tesla in that case. Rightly or wrongly.
 


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I am torn between understanding economics and knowing Tesla will charge what the market will bear and the mission of Tesla which calls for cheaper EVs. Elon himself has said they need to be cheaper.
Posted this quote in another thread. I don’t think you need to worry about this.

This is Musk on Cybertruck:
I have never seen actually such a level of demand at this – we've never seen anything like it, basically. I think we will make about as many as we can sell for many years. So, we'll sell as many as we can make. It's going to be pretty nuts.
Musk isn’t looking at grabbing a quick profit he wants this to last. He wants the Cybertruck to shake the industry. The way they are going to do that is by cranking them out in huge volumes. You don’t sell huge volumes by cranking up prices.

The big question is how many trucks can they produce? If they can hit 500k trucks, that’s going to put a huge strain on GM and Ford’s ability to make a profit.

TSLA will be fine the truck was designed to print money.

Some other refresher quotes from Musk on CT and demand here: https://insideevs.com/news/396082/demand-tesla-cybertruck-high/
 

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Posted this quote in another thread. I don’t think you need to worry about this.

This is Musk on Cybertruck:


Musk isn’t looking at grabbing a quick profit he wants this to last. He wants the Cybertruck to shake the industry. The way they are going to do that is by cranking them out in huge volumes. You don’t sell huge volumes by cranking up prices.

The big question is how many trucks can they produce? If they can hit 500k trucks, that’s going to put a huge strain on GM and Ford’s ability to make a profit.

TSLA will be fine the truck was designed to print money.

Some other refresher quotes from Musk on CT and demand here: https://insideevs.com/news/396082/demand-tesla-cybertruck-high/
I tend to agree, my gut is they'll sell them at least close to the original price in order to completely own the market. Provided they can produce enough of them. Given their manufacturing efficiencies it seems likely that they can or will be able to. Nobody knows of course, except for Tesla.

I'm definitely not worried about Tesla's survival, they are honestly so far ahead right now they can coast for a few years and have little issues just executing on their current plans. Of course they won't though. That is my point to those who argue that Ford etc. is catching up... yeah, catching up to Tesla's current vehicles and struggling to do so. What happens when the V2 Y and M3 come out? What happens when the Y is several hundred pounds lighter with the same 350 mile range, charges faster and costs substantially less to make and you can make them 3 times faster than your nearest competitor... They just made a huge LFP order from CATL, ostensibly to not only build standard range M3s but a lot more Powerwalls and Megapacks. With the tailwinds of the of potential incentives from the infrastructure bill for residential solar. Not to mention the expansion of Tesla Insurance, AI...

I have this feeling that in an alternative reality, Tesla was called Weyland Corp. I mean, SpaceX builds satellites and Starships...
 

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The biggest thing that scares me is the saber rattling by the Peoples Republic of China. If they get into a shooting war with Taiwan, then a trade freeze, nationalization of Tesla-Shanghai, and cancellation of the lithium order could play hell with production schedules.

Let's all hope cooler heads prevail.
 

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I'm sure they'll at least honor the original reservation prices, just like they did with self-driving prices. Those who order next year won't get the same price as those who reserved at the lower prices.

That said, they can clearly add more upgrades than they normally do, to compensate for some of the new features that weren't part of the original specs.

Here are some of the features they talked about AFTER the original prices were announced that could potentially be upgrades, not standard.

1. Solar Vault cover.

2. Four wheel steering.

3. Drop down Mid-Gate to open up access to the main cabin from the vault (hopefully a full, not split).

4. Not shown, but hinted at from patent applications, a digital dashboard with a OLDED or e-ink screen covering the entire width of the cab.

I'd love to have all of those, but I'm only willing to pay extra for the mid-gate and solar vault.
 
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Wow, what a great Quad motor Cybertruck announcement today.

With today’s Quad motor reveal does anyone still think Tesla will not increase prices? Mr. Musk has just taken the Cybertruck very upscale with a new drivetrain announcement. I think $85,990 before options is a very realistic estimate.

I feel we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with more new announcements regarding standard features and options.
 


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I made a few bucks today flipping another firetruck I bought surplus.
That money will go into my investment account and when Tesla stock splits again I'll put every dime into more stock.
Hopefully by the time my CT is built I'll have enough for a big down payment or to pay it off completely.
I just hope it doesn't end up costing as much as the HUMMER.
 

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Wow, what a great Quad motor Cybertruck announcement today.

With today’s Quad motor reveal does anyone still think Tesla will not increase prices? Mr. Musk has just taken the Cybertruck very upscale with a new drivetrain announcement. I think $85,990 before options is a very realistic estimate.

I feel we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with more new announcements regarding standard features and options.
I'll take that stance. I think Tesla will still sell the vehicles in the configurations that people reserved at the price they quoted.

2 years ago Tesla revealed the Cybertruck and told the world they were going to START selling those vehicles at those prices at the end of 2021 start of 2022. Those numbers weren't just tossed out as a guess. They were being very specific that THOSE were the prices they were going to sell those vehicles in 2022. The night of the reveal, most people thought those were low prices. But Tesla knew EXACTLY what they were quoting.
This announcement today, I'll call a Tesla Cybertruck Plaid. Absolutely it's going to come out at a substantially higher price. The plan being to sell high priced Plaids first, in smaller volume, because they won't have a high volume of 4680 batteries, plus They will start out with the high priced vehicle to cover their learning curve on how to produce a completely new type of vehicle. Produce the vehicle with the highest profit margin first, then as they perfect their manufacturing skills, they can work into lower margin vehicles. Same thing Lucid and Rivian are doing. It makes sense.
 
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Itā€˜s no surprise that the top trim level would be manufactured first. I think all reservation holders expected Tri Motor production would be first.

It will be interesting to see how many reservation holders step up to the premium priced Quad Motor. I predict a Tesla will only offer two version of the CT at launch. Quad Motor and Dual Motor.
 
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The price of steel has gone up significantly since the pandemic like most things. I had to buy a new underground propane tank for my new house and it's almost doubled in price since 2019. And only 1 of 1000 gallon tank was available in the my small city.
 

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The price of steel has gone up significantly since the pandemic like most things. I had to buy a new underground propane tank for my new house and it's almost doubled in price since 2019. And only 1 of 1000 gallon tank was available in the my small city.
What a F#$& Up if Tesla didn’t lock-in steel prices based on RN’s.
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