n00b question - How long have to wait to order non-founders series?

[lotusride]

I received the invite but saw the $20k markup, how long roughly will all of us have to wait to get the non-founders series CT?

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[gaubong053]

Nobody knows except Elon Musk

 

[Kaz109]

I have indirectly, asked the same question but I’m pretty sure nobody knows that exact answer. The foundation series wasn’t even mentioned in development, or even during the press release. I’m pretty sure it was something that was sprung on the first people that got to fulfill the reservation.

It’s clearly a money grab disguised as a “limited edition” is that clearly is not so limited. The funniest part is the people that applaud Elon for trying to enforce a bogus no resale clause can’t explain what the differences between somebody reselling their truck versus Elon charging 20k for a foundation series. Funny part is if you choose not to get the foundation series you get skipped in line and go the the next guy that will pay the 20k. .

 

[Gurule92]

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[daddyd]

I have indirectly, asked the same question but I’m pretty sure nobody knows that exact answer. The foundation series wasn’t even mentioned in development, or even during the press release. I’m pretty sure it was something that was sprung on the first people that got to fulfill the reservation.

It’s clearly a money grab disguised as a “limited edition” is that clearly is not so limited. The funniest part is the people that applaud Elon for trying to enforce a bogus no resale clause can’t explain what the differences between somebody reselling their truck versus Elon charging 20k for a foundation series. Funny part is if you choose not to get the foundation series you get skipped in line and go the the next guy that will pay the 20k. .

In reality though, it’s not a $20k extra cost. They just are forcing you to choose some options you may or may not even want. Such as Full Self Driving ($8k value maybe?) and The bigger wheels and tires. Also the semi weird home battery thing that can power your house for a few days? I think overall you are getting $15k in real upgrades. So it’s like a $5k cost you’re throwing away just to have the truck sooner than others

 

[Cybertruck26]

Nobody knows except Elon Musk

This seems familiar

 

[Kaz109]

In reality though, it’s not a $20k extra cost. They just are forcing you to choose some options you may or may not even want. Such as Full Self Driving ($8k value maybe?) and The bigger wheels and tires. Also the semi weird home battery thing that can power your house for a few days? I think overall you are getting $15k in real upgrades. So it’s like a $5k cost you’re throwing away just to have the truck sooner than others

Lol…. No offense but this sounds like a typical dirt bag used car salesman pitch.. if you are not allowed to purchase a vehicle that you reserved because you are forced to buy accessories that you do not wish to have the new you are 100% being forced to spin 20k.

your reply is simply semantics, and if that is sound like I’m lashing out at you I apologize cause that’s not my intent. I understand what you were trying to do and that is point out the fact that it’s not just graphics that you were getting but in fact, useful options, that some people have spec’d in their build.

My point was your post would be valid if the foundation series was an option, it is not it is forced on you if you want your reservation in the order in which it was received.

 

[Mrp911]

In reality though, it’s not a $20k extra cost. They just are forcing you to choose some options you may or may not even want. Such as Full Self Driving ($8k value maybe?) and The bigger wheels and tires. Also the semi weird home battery thing that can power your house for a few days? I think overall you are getting $15k in real upgrades. So it’s like a $5k cost you’re throwing away just to have the truck sooner than others

powershare is not weird. It is real technology and additional to my solar powerwall system can run home for probably week. It is like adding 9 powerwalls.

tesla looses money the first months of production. There strategy is smart for them and many are happy to help and get the vehicle sooner. I have no regrets with our Cyberbeast purchase. The vehicle is truly awesome!!

 

[Startreknerd]

I have indirectly, asked the same question but I’m pretty sure nobody knows that exact answer. The foundation series wasn’t even mentioned in development, or even during the press release. I’m pretty sure it was something that was sprung on the first people that got to fulfill the reservation.

It’s clearly a money grab disguised as a “limited edition” is that clearly is not so limited. The funniest part is the people that applaud Elon for trying to enforce a bogus no resale clause can’t explain what the differences between somebody reselling their truck versus Elon charging 20k for a foundation series. Funny part is if you choose not to get the foundation series you get skipped in line and go the the next guy that will pay the 20k. .

If they make 50k this year (at current weekly capacity) the first 10-20k being founders is limited. Especially if they start to make over 100k a year.

Besides, it's not just a markup. You get FSD, and the power home hardware and backup system. Clearly one gets features that costs money as an option, but just configured with the edition.

 

[BikerPilot]

I received the invite but saw the $20k markup, how long roughly will all of us have to wait to get the non-founders series CT?

I don't believe the non FS series will be available anytime soon. Reason: there are still lots of people waiting to get the invite to configure (at least 75% of my friends who reserved one). Tesla's profit margin is down. They will keep the FS series going as long as there is demand (that is pure business and makes sense and Elon has made a similar statement over the weekend). Demand is still very high. I suspect this may go on until at least the end of the year. Why would they not?

Also, I don't believe it was ever stated that the Foundation Series was limited. At this rate they will produce roughly another 50K trucks this year. There is certainly a demand for those.
Comparing Rivian with Cybertruck is not really realistic and the Cybertruck is more of a lifestyle vehicle. The Rivian is just a truck.......

 

[HaulingAss]

It's anyone's guess when the Foundation Series will run out of demand, and the timing of that has mostly to do with how quickly Tesla continues to ramp the monthly production numbers.

My guess is we will see non-Foundation deliveries starting around August/September.

 

[AverageLogic]

Just another data point to consider:

I’m res no. 11307xxxx and anticipate the invite email any day now. I will unhesitatingly order the AWD FS asap. The process has afforded more than ample time to consider in depth “FS now” vs what ever normal will eventually be. As a TSLA LTS I’ve no qualms w Tesla exploiting high demand by providing an “exclusive” version at an inflated price, indefinitely. Smart capitalism is a “money grab”. (Why pay a premium for a front section seat in a concert? It’s the same sound. Why pay a premium for an author-signed comic book & certificate of authenticity? It’s the same comic book. Why slip the maitre d’ a fiddy to sit by the window? It’s the same food.) There is some added value, w/ FSD, wheels, unique branding, etc., but definitely some (arguably worthless) personal gratification perks for being one of the first in your village to own one and not having to wait any friggin longer...

 

[Kaz109]

Just another data point to consider:

I’m res no. 11307xxxx and anticipate the invite email any day now. I will unhesitatingly order the AWD FS asap. The process has afforded more than ample time to consider in depth “FS now” vs what ever normal will eventually be. As a TSLA LTS I’ve no qualms w Tesla exploiting high demand by providing an “exclusive” version at an inflated price, indefinitely. Smart capitalism is a “money grab”. (Why pay a premium for a front section seat in a concert? It’s the same sound. Why pay a premium for an author-signed comic book & certificate of authenticity? It’s the same comic book. Why slip the maitre d’ a fiddy to sit by the window? It’s the same food.) There is some added value, w/ FSD, wheels, unique branding, etc., but definitely some (arguably worthless) personal gratification perks for being one of the first in your village to own one and not having to wait any friggin longer...

Literally almost everything you said in your post is a contradiction and I will point them out one by one….

A front row seat at a concert is not the same as sitting in the back as the sound quality is definitely better and less Eco

You pay a premium for a signed comic book and certificate of authenticity because it’s not something that can be duplicated. Somebody else cannot have that book and just have anybody sign it. If said person could buy the book, then mail it to the author for a signature and certificate then it does not really make that book, rare or limited, because anybody who buys the book can do the same thing.

So by your own ( along with other ppls) logic owning a foundation series, would not be anything special since the same options that come with the foundation series ( that are a value ) can be spec’d to a non-foundation series at a later time.

The only part about your post that is accurate is it’s cool for 20K you can skip the line, like a fast pass at Disneyland.

 

[DrDefore]

I received the invite but saw the $20k markup, how long roughly will all of us have to wait to get the non-founders series CT?

Non-FS buyers think the delay sucks. FS buyers with $20k to waste think being getting priority is great. God bless America, nepo-babies and bullies.

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