"No crumple zones" myth again debunked in Cybertruck crash

[Deleted member 17810]

I'm super curious as to what they hit.

The bumper doesn't look super deformed, but the frunk is.

It might be an extended load on another vehicle jutting out.

Maybe an 18 wheeler with a high bumper.

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[cofree]

Has anyone ever claimed the CT doesn’t have crumple zones? I thought the claim was the test dummy decelerates over a much shorter distance in the CT test than basically every other truck on the market because the crumple zones function poorly.

There are plenty of such claims over at the anti-tesla subreddits (some of which at the time were actually fairly balanced). The basic background there is that the pro-tesla subreddits banned people from the pro-tesla subreddits if they participated in the anti-tesla subreddits. The result is that the vast majority of actual Tesla owners stopped participating in the anti-tesla subreddits. So everyone on the anti-tesla subreddits are people who don't own teslas and are participating in groupthink. So if someone claims that foundation CTs don't include a charging cable (mobile connector) that comment gets upvoted even though it is 100% verifiably false.

We own a 2022 RAM 1500 and a Tesla Cybertruck. The distance from the front bumper to the steering wheel is 1 inch longer in the Cybertruck (it is difficult to measure as the steering wheels have different tilts, and are adjustable). I know it doesn't look like that, but don't be fooled by the windshield as the steering wheel is well behind the front of the windshield. With the cybertruck not having a huge engine block up front I will continue to expect the cybertruck has the larger crumple ability until I see evidence otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 17810]

). I know it doesn't look like that, but don't be fooled by the windshield as the steering wheel is well behind the front of the windshield. With the cybertruck not having a huge engine block up front I will continue to expect the cybertruck has the larger crumple ability until I see evidence otherwise.

Not only that, but tesla's casting setup is seemingly steps ahead of traditional frame crumple zones.

 

[bg002h]

There are plenty of such claims over at the anti-tesla subreddits (some of which at the time were actually fairly balanced). The basic background there is that the pro-tesla subreddits banned people from the pro-tesla subreddits if they participated in the anti-tesla subreddits. The result is that the vast majority of actual Tesla owners stopped participating in the anti-tesla subreddits. So everyone on the anti-tesla subreddits are people who don't own teslas and are participating in groupthink. So if someone claims that foundation CTs don't include a charging cable (mobile connector) that comment gets upvoted even though it is 100% verifiably false.

We own a 2022 RAM 1500 and a Tesla Cybertruck. The distance from the front bumper to the steering wheel is 1 inch longer in the Cybertruck (it is difficult to measure as the steering wheels have different tilts, and are adjustable). I know it doesn't look like that, but don't be fooled by the windshield as the steering wheel is well behind the front of the windshield. With the cybertruck not having a huge engine block up front I will continue to expect the cybertruck has the larger crumple ability until I see evidence otherwise.

right. But if you watch a video of CT crashing in the standard DOT head on collision with a dummy and superimpose a video of a standard truck on its own test, it sure looks like the distance afforded the dummy to decelerate is substantially less.

but remember, the DOT test uses a stationary wall as the crash object…this would be like a CT hitting a CT, which erases any weight advantage.

I think it’s all a bit academic, but maybe someone has shown a correlation between deaths per car model per year and deceleration distances for the test dummy.

 

[Crissa]

...and superimpose a video of a standard truck on its own test, it sure looks like...

...The person who did the superimposing didn't make sure to match the kind of test or the position of the impact surface.

Matching the position of the wheels (as was done in the viral video) is misleading because the wheels are in different places.

You can tell, because the Cybertruck stops sooner because it was:

• Literally closer to its object
• Was a differnt kind of test: A full wall impact (simulating hitting a wall or truck), not a short overlap impact (simulating hitting a car).
• And the surface the Cybertruck hit was solid, while standard certification test is against another crumple zone.

-Crissa

 

[CyberZephyr]

All Teslas have 5 star NHTSA rating > CT almost definitely will > I can't imagine a 5 star NHTSA with no crumple zones. + I have no idea why a CT wouldn't have them. People are stupid. Don't read internet media about the CT.

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