Question about Tesla buying the Cybertruck back within a year for purchased price less mileage and recondition cost

[Baldyloxx]

I don’t understand the logic behind willing to “paying the premium to have something early” but then being worried about the buy-back and its potentially excessive depreciation…

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[Alan]

Y]our cheapest way out is to probably cancel now and lose the 1000. Nobody should be ordering if they aren’t sure they want t]he FS edition.

 

[Outdoors]

One would lose the order fee of $250 Destination Fee of $1995. That wouldn't come back to you if you magically decided 6 months in you didn't like it. Tesla could offer to buy it back. No guarantee. Who knows a 500 mile range truck could appear, and Tesla says enjoy one's truck.

 

[jasper7821]

Y]our cheapest way out is to probably cancel now and lose the 1000. Nobody should be ordering if they aren’t sure they want t]he FS edition.

I totally get it; but I really don’t want to wait another year while I see them driving around for a year.
I sat in line for a few hours to put a deposit on the 35k Model 3, was so bummed when it came out at 55k and watched them drive around for a year until I bought my used P85+.

Losing the $7,500 totally sucks, but the 20k add on, I can justify about 15kbor so of it as its features I wouldn’t mind having.
I probably still have another month or so to decide. And sell my two cars.

 

[jasper7821]

Y]our cheapest way out is to probably cancel now and lose the 1000. Nobody should be ordering if they aren’t sure they want t]he FS edition.

They've already told me I won't lose the $100, $250, or $1,000 if I pass on it. But I'll be at the end of the line. I don't know if being a Tesla customer makes any difference or not, but I had a P85+ and now a 3.
My other reservation # is 114, wonder when that one would come up.

 

[jasper7821]

One would lose the order fee of $250 Destination Fee of $1995. That wouldn't come back to you if you magically decided 6 months in you didn't like it. Tesla could offer to buy it back. No guarantee. Who knows a 500 mile range truck could appear, and Tesla says enjoy one's truck.

See other post, I went to Tesla and they already said I wouldn't lose any money, just my spot.

 

[cvalue13]

Losing the $7,500 totally sucks, but the 20k add on, I can justify about 15kbor so of it as its features I wouldn’t mind having.

some forget initial TTL on $100k/$120k

and that in a resale you’ll get ~nothing for any of the FS “extras”

 

[jasper7821]

some forget initial TTL on $100k/$120k

and that in a resale you’ll get ~nothing for any of the FS “extras”

Yes I understand the TTL will be lost as well.

 

[cvalue13]

That’s a lot of money in wear/tear and a reconditioning as if they want to purchase it, they pay you what they sold it to you for.

I believe you’re referencing the language underlined in green.

some issues with that language.

while obviously uncertain, there is no clarity that this provision will account for the “Foundation Series” package, which is separate from the base vehicle price.

supporting this view that the language in green will only apply to the base vehicle price and not the package, is that (1) arguably the majority of that Foundation package price is FSD, and we all know how Tesla views repurchasing FSD from customers, and (2) in the remainder of that package value are many off-vehicle accessories Tesla almost certainly won’t be repurchasing.

accordingly, the conservative take is that one assumes the $20K Foundation cost is not addressed in the green underlined language (but hope to be proven wrong).

from there, one may be surprised what peice Tesla lards in to the ‘refurbish’ sentence that follows (to say nothing of the 0.25c/mi).

anyone with a Tesla lease know if the refurbish language has an analogue in your lease agreement?

lastly, I point folks to the language in red.

specifically, you only ever get to the repurchase function (or the permission to sell to third party), if Tesla agrees your reason to sell “warrants an exception.”

Which is to say, if Tesla doesn’t agree your reason warrants an exception, Tesla doesn’t have to make you an offer, nor grant you permission to on-sale.

There again, Tesla’s attitude on this being unknown, and to date to precedent for what they view as a legit reason to sell (or their consistency in applying that view), the MOST conservative view is that Tesla will simply deny that you can on-sell (to Tesla or anyone), and leave you stuck with the truck.

From there it’s up to how the dice have been rolling for you lately.

 

[jasper7821]

I believe you’re referencing the language underlined in green.

some issues with that language.

while obviously uncertain, there is no clarity that this provision will account for the “Foundation Series” package, which is separate from the base vehicle price.

supporting this view that the language in green will only apply to the base vehicle price and not the package, is that (1) arguably the majority of that Foundation package price is FSD, and we all know how Tesla views repurchasing FSD from customers, and (2) in the remainder of that package value are many off-vehicle accessories Tesla almost certainly won’t be repurchasing.

accordingly, the conservative take is that one assumes the $20K Foundation cost is not addressed in the green underlined language (but hope to be proven wrong).

from there, one may be surprised what peice Tesla lards in to the ‘refurbish’ sentence that follows (to say nothing of the 0.25c/mi).

anyone with a Tesla lease know if the refurbish language has an analogue in your lease agreement?

lastly, I point folks to the language in red.

specifically, you only ever get to the repurchase function (or the permission to sell to third party), if Tesla agrees your reason to sell “warrants an exception.”

Which is to say, if Tesla doesn’t agree your reason warrants an exception, Tesla doesn’t have to make you an offer, nor grant you permission to on-sale.

There again, Tesla’s attitude on this being unknown, and to date to precedent for what they view as a legit reason to sell (or their consistency in applying that view), the MOST conservative view is that Tesla will simply deny that you can on-sell (to Tesla or anyone), and leave you stuck with the truck.

From there it’s up to how the dice have been rolling for you lately.

It does say FINAL price sheet, I would hope final means options included (20k).
All the other items you mention, I wouldn’t think Tesla would do that, but that’s also being naive.
But my dice have been rolling great lately, so who knows. You only live once was what I said when I hit the order button.

Also my reason for wanting to sell would be the 2nd reservation came up. I think Tesla would hopefully be on my side side with that one.

 

[Coltpete]

It does say FINAL price sheet, I would hope final means options included (20k).
All the other items you mention, I wouldn’t think Tesla would do that, but that’s also being naive.
But my dice have been rolling great lately, so who knows. You only live once was what I said when I hit the order button.

Also my reason for wanting to sell would be the 2nd reservation came up. I think Tesla would hopefully be on my side side with that one.

I think a good reason to sell would be hey I drove this around for a month and don't absolutely love it. Tesla can give you an offer or not, and if not you should be able to sell. I don't see why they'd want to hold someone hostage.

Otherwise as others have pointed out you just give someone a 12 month lease with a set option to purchase after the time expires.

 

[cvalue13]

It does say FINAL price sheet, I would hope final means options included (20k).

All fair enough, and a Tesla ‘Final Price Sheet’ for other models does show the vehicle top line price (bundled), so you have that going for you

on the other hand:

that price reference to the configuration sheet shows eg (here with a CT):

Now, do we think Tesla intends to purchase back the $2,000 destination fee?

Meanwhile and similarly, i just find it cautiously doubtful for Tesla to DTRT (do the right thing) when it comes to repurchasing FSD (they have a track record on that one).

And the home charger?

And, for someone that’s used it, I don’t know what to think about the $4,000 installation credit.


Maybe I’m the one that’s being naive, and Tesla is so gonna DTRT they’re even going to pay back destination fees, order fees, FSD, and home chargers - all because their own vague language they get to interpret suggested they should DTRT.

Or maybe they instead they just say they dont approve the transfer, and let the customer sort it out.


but I’ll admit to being jaded, since for a living I help people get un-f*cked by things they never thought reasonable.

And never to suggest that I think this is the most likely outcome, only instead that if someone can’t tolerate the results of the ‘unlikely’ outcome happening, they should risk adjust accordingly.

if only because, if nothing else, the contract doesn’t require Tesla to do a damn thing, and the situation allows Tesla to do whatever they want.

Including deciding that, rather than “hold someone hostage” (by not approving any sale), they say “see your configuration sheet? Notice the line item for ‘Cyberbeast’? That’s your purchase price.”

 

[Woodrick]

Then just pass on it. There are a lot of people that will take it at this point.
If you aren't ready for it, then don't order it. If you ordered it, you have two choices, keep it or pass on it (and maybe lose some money)

There are a LOT of people who want one, without sitting in it.

 

[Outdoors]

See other post, I went to Tesla and they already said I wouldn't lose any money, just my spot.

See you are kind of changing what the title of the thread is, which is what many are responding to. If you don't take delivery you can hold for future. Sure. That is not the title of the thread however.

If you take delivery and drive the car you will lose the delivery fee taxes and anything else plus miles.

They aren't going to let you drive the car around for 0.25 a mile and then you walk in and say I want out. Give me my money back. They might offer, and who knows what that offer will be. You might assume you could sell for more. Maybe not. Tesla would like how much you sell it for above what you paid.

 

[Outdoors]

I'm curious how much money I'd lose by selling the truck back to Tesla. I wonder what they would roughly charge for wear/tear and reconditioning,
I'm extremely OCD about my vehicles and totally baby them and all the one's I've had and have still look pretty much new, so I wouldn't think reconditioning would be much at all. And they'd deduct the cost of the Powershare Home Backup as well since I'm sure they wouldn't want that back.

Which is it. Taking delivery or not? Your thoughts have morphed as this thread has gone on.

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