Roller Bed Cover Might Be Leaving

[HaulingAss]

I never noticed the cover getting very dirty on trips and just my normal washing routine of the truck was enough to keep the cover clean and functional. I see no reason that Tesla won't be able to engineer as good of a cover as a third party manufacturer.

Exactly! I can get my entire truck caked in mud and the tonneau cover will remain almost spotlessly clean. Even a little bit of mud, leaves, road grime, etc. wouldn't prevent a well-designed cover from rolling up and most truck owners would clean their trucks periodically anyway.

I can't imagine anyone who knew anything would throw this out there as buzz-kill. The long list of supposed deal killers of the Cybertruck are actually hilarious. The real deal killer in just a few short years will be an ICE engine and transmission due to it's fragility and high maintenance and fueling needs. And who is going to want a soft, damage-prone truck body that dents and scratches if you do anything worse than look at it the wrong way? Nobody who actually cares about their truck.

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[Ogre]

Fossil fuel infrastructure will disappear just as quickly as steam power did when ICE and electricity took over. Steam power never went completely away but it is uneconomical to operate. We didn't forget how to make it work, it's just not useful when you have better, cheaper ways of doing things.

It’ll happen Much much faster.

We have much better manufacturing then we did back then. Massively better. The idea of a factory which could produce a million vehicles a year was completely alien at the time. Musk is delivering 2 with the next month.

knowledge transfer is insanely fast now. So people quickly learn how much better it is.

 

[Ogre]

Exactly! I can get my entire truck caked in mud and the tonneau cover will remain almost spotlessly clean. Even a little bit of mud, leaves, road grime, etc. wouldn't prevent a well-designed cover from rolling up and most truck owners would clean their trucks periodically anyway.

If you spray the truck down with PAM before you go muddying, the mud won’t even stick at all.



I know silly…. But people have done this with mountain bikes.

 

[Tinker71]

Fossil fuel infrastructure will disappear just as quickly as steam power did when ICE and electricity took over. Steam power never went completely away but it is uneconomical to operate. We didn't forget how to make it work, it's just not useful when you have better, cheaper ways of doing things.

I mostly agree. Modern gas and coal plants are more complicated than steam driven engines. Turbine generators, boilers, condensers, scrubbers, electrostatic precipitators, acid plants, converters, heat exchangers, all the I&C are a lot different than a windmill or solar operation.

Sure we could relearn the art if we had to, but it would not be easy or quick if we needed the technology in a pinch.

 

[HaulingAss]

I mostly agree. Modern gas and coal plants are more complicated than steam driven engines. Turbine generators, boilers, condensers, scrubbers, electrostatic precipitators, acid plants, converters, heat exchangers, all the I&C are a lot different than a windmill or solar operation.

Sure we could relearn the art if we had to, but it would not be easy or quick if we needed the technology in a pinch.

We wont need to re-learn how to use overly complex turbine generators, boilers, condensers, scrubbers, electrostatic precipitators, acid plants, converters, heat exchangers, and the like anymore than we need to re-learn how to ride a horse or build an internal combustion engine. Inferior technologies are dead ends. Especially when they are more complex than the replacement.

 

[Crissa]

Well, condensers and scrubbers and precipitators will always be with us because we need chemicals to make things. Just what goes into and out of those complex machines will change over time.

Our entire chemical production in the US centered on boiling pine trees to create all the solvents and tar and glue we use. An amazing number of things come from that industry, even today. We're just doing it again, to new, renewable resources.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Our grid is going to be interesting in the future. Solar will eventually provide more power during the daytime than we can consume **or store**.

Its possible we will be charged vastly different rates for day versus night power. Daytime power: 0.02/ kWh. Nighttime power $0.15/ kWh.

Power rates in the winter might look something like today but in the summer much cheaper. I wonder what kind of industry you can create when you have insanely cheap power for 12 hours a day, 4 months a year.

 

[Tinker71]

Our grid is going to be interesting in the future. Solar will eventually provide more power during the daytime than we can consume **or store**.

Its possible we will be charged vastly different rates for day versus night power. Daytime power: 0.02/ kWh. Nighttime power $0.15/ kWh.

Power rates in the winter might look something like today but in the summer much cheaper. I wonder what kind of industry you can create when you have insanely cheap power for 12 hours a day, 4 months a year.

EV Road trips....the night tour because you are charing during the day.

 

[Ogre]

EV Road trips....the night tour because you are charing during the day.

Actually maybe Supercharger rates are cheaper during daylight hours and driving will be nearly free.

Food for thought.

 

[charliemagpie]

If you spray the truck down with PAM before you go muddying, the mud won’t even stick at all.

It will be handy for eggs

 

[HaulingAss]

Well, condensers and scrubbers and precipitators will always be with us because we need chemicals to make things. Just what goes into and out of those complex machines will change over time.

The discussion was about keeping the technology for abandoned applications mothballed. If the technology is not abandoned, for example because it's used in chemical manufacturing, then it's not relevant to mothball it.

 

[Ogre]

The discussion was about keeping the technology for abandoned applications mothballed. If the technology is not abandoned, for example because it's used in chemical manufacturing, then it's not relevant to mothball it.

This stuff is going to be around for 50 years or much longer.

 

[Tinker71]

The discussion was about keeping the technology for abandoned applications mothballed. If the technology is not abandoned, for example because it's used in chemical manufacturing, then it's not relevant to mothball it.

I agree that most of the technology with refining and old school power generation is around in other industries. My thoughts are really around energy mix, strategic independence, and putting all our eggs in one basket.

1.) I lament the fact that a lot of industrial manufacturing has gone overseas. A lot of knowledge and tooling went with it. I want it back.
2.) While I don't support nuclear as the answer I think we should have it in our energy mix, maybe 10%. Fusion will be incredibly advantageous in space travel . We need to continue to advance the tech.
3.) I think the military should keep 25% of their fleet or so as old school diesel. Maybe mothballed in warehouses somewhere. With massive tanks stashed. You never know.
4.) Again, if we mothballed/occasionally ran/practiced our refinery/coal/fracking technology if something really bad happened we would have an option. Volcanic eruption, geoengineering gone bad, solar storm, meteor strike. IDK. Hey I am a prepper what can I say. 5-10% of our existing capacity ready to restart. This would be 10-20 years in the future assuming when we are generally 100% electric.

When the electrification transition is done traditional employment may look different. There won't be a need for as many workers. I know they keep saying it, but it will happen eventually. This would give a couple thousand people something to do.

Yes this is crazy talk and not related to bed covers at all. How did I get here.

 

[HaulingAss]

This stuff is going to be around for 50 years or much longer.

Like steam engines, it will never go away completely.

 

[anionic1]

It’ll happen Much much faster.

We have much better manufacturing then we did back then. Massively better. The idea of a factory which could produce a million vehicles a year was completely alien at the time. Musk is delivering 2 with the next month.

knowledge transfer is insanely fast now. So people quickly learn how much better it is.

I do a lot of construction and frequently get involved with project near gas stations where they find high enough levels of VOCs in the soil that it is considered hazardous abatement and it’s expensive to haul off. Probably going to see a lot more of that as gas stations close down.

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