Some Fire Depts think Teslas are so safe regarding fires that they use Teslas themselves to respond to incidents

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Trondheim, Norway - K160UTR Fire & Rescue department uses Tesla as responding vehicles (not the victim) to incidents but also teaches driving course for emergency responders using Teslas as the responding vehicle.

Teslas are probably safer for emergency responders because it is harder to rollover and if a member of public does not hear siren and crashes into responding vehicles the emergency responders will be better protected.

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Trondheim, Norway Fire & Rescue - K160UTR
https://k160utr.no/

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K160UTR AS - Hvem er vi? ( About us )
https://k160utr.no/om-selskapet/
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K160UTR AS was founded in March 2021, and is owned by Tom Espen Støp, Robert Fiskvik, Erik Sorken and Olav Noteng. All emergency instructors with the common goal of creating the best possible driving training offer. Already in 2019, the country's first electric training vehicle was approved for use. Olav went up the trail and acquired, at his own expense and risk, a Tesla Model S Long Range.

The Værnes region's fire and rescue service, VRBRT, is the company's approved course organiser. K160UTR AS is the executing actor, subordinate to the Fire Chief VRBRT, who in turn complies with the Norwegian Public Roads Administration's requirements for approved course organisers. K160UTR AS conducts courses for all emergency theaters and people who meet the requirements for participation.

During 2023, we will get additional new electric training vehicles. Follow us, it will be an exciting electric future!


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Don't know what Norwegian town this one is in.

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Be interesting to see if Cybertruck gets picked up for things like this.
 
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Be interesting to see if Cybertruck gets picked up for things like this.
Not sure about fire depts but there a definitely some police depts that have reservations for Cybertrucks.

I know at least one city police dept in Mexico claimed to have reserved in 2019.


San Luis Potosí is a medium size city. Nice place. The BMW factory there is supposed to start making PHEV/BEV battery packs in 2024/2025 and BEVs in 2026/2027.

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Alcalde de San Luis Potosí compró 15 Cybertruck de Tesla para usarlas de patrulla La compra se realizó para atender los reclamos de la ciudadanía para mejorar los servicios, indicó el edil.
( Mayor of San Luis Potosí bought 15 Tesla Cybertrucks to use for patrol purposes The purchase was made to address citizen claims to improve services, indicated the mayor. )
Forbes Staff
noviembre 29, 2019
https://www.forbes.com.mx/alcalde-d...cybertruck-de-tesla-para-usarlas-de-patrulla/

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Alcalde de San Luis Potosí compra 15 camionetas cybertruck de Tesla
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Nov 29, 2019
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Norway in general has massive amounts of EV’s. At one point, maybe still today, Norway was the most EV’s per capita of any country in the world.

We did a family trip ~5 years ago and saw many rural farms and barn with EV/Tesla chargers attached. Electric cars were “everywhere.”
 

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Well we would need some right now. We lost a 737 Fireliner water bomber in our national park fire this afternoon. Our only one too, and we just got it. (Thankfully Pilots are ok, not injured)

Very smokey atm but fire is heading away from town and us. But wind will turn tomorrow. Started from lightning strike just like last year...

CT would be awesome. Biodefense air filter mode to cut through smoke, highly polished and reflective SS would reflect heat too, EV drivetrain won't stall from lack of oxygen, 1200l water just in the bed would be twice the small 80 series Toyota Ute's can carry. 7000l on a cartage trailer would be twice our truck units. You just need to power an electric pump from the auxiliary output.

The biggest issue woild be how to charge them. Bush fire fighting chews threw fuel, seeing everything is boggy sand that needs power to churn through, especially with a load. Our town power supply couldn't even handle one Supercharger atm.
 
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Well we would need some right now. We lost a 737 Fireliner water bomber in our national park fire this afternoon. Our only one too, and we just got it.

Very smokey atm but fire is heading away from town and us. But wind will turn tomorrow. Started from lightning strike just like last year...

CT would be awesome. Biodefense air filter mode to cut through smoke, highly polished and reflective SS would reflect heat too, EV drivetrain won't stall from lack of oxygen, 1200l water just in the bed would be twice the small 80 series Toyota Ute's can carry. 7000l on a cartage trailer would be twice our truck units. You just need to power an electric pump from the auxiliary output.

The biggest issue woild be how to charge them. Bush fire fighting chews threw fuel, seeing everything is boggy sand that needs power to churn through, especially with a load. Our town power supply couldn't even handle one Supercharger atm.
Heard about the downed plane, that is horrible.

Agree on the air filters. We get nasty fires here too and it would be nice if I could leave the house without choking.
 

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Teslas (or other EVs) would be wonderful Battalion Chief's vehicles and medical squads. We already plug into shore power each time we return to the station just to be sure the battery stays charged at all times anyway so Level II (or even Level I) would keep the battery at its ideal charge.

We're an urban department who rarely get long duration wildland incidents so we're better suited for EVs than a rural department with long response distances, long on-scene times, and sparse charging options in the field. I'd be interested to know what the kWh demands a small brush unit would need for the low speed pump and roll uses these units respond on. The relatively small Gallons Per Minute (GPM) pumps they use are often powered by little 5-10 hp engines. They could probably run all day off an EVs battery, and low speed driving without wind resistance to overcome doesn't take much either.

Police may (or may not) be a different story, since they don't regularly return to their station during a shift. In our city at least, they go from call to call, only returning to the station for a quick fuel up or to switch personnel. One thing that could work in favor of EV police cars is the amount of time they spend sitting in parking lots completing reports. If a city would install Level II chargers at city facilities throughout the area, near food and restroom opportunities, they could be adding charge during those down times.
 

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Teslas (or other EVs) would be wonderful Battalion Chief's vehicles and medical squads. We already plug into shore power each time we return to the station just to be sure the battery stays charged at all times anyway so Level II (or even Level I) would keep the battery at its ideal charge.

We're an urban department who rarely get long duration wildland incidents so we're better suited for EVs than a rural department with long response distances, long on-scene times, and sparse charging options in the field. I'd be interested to know what the kWh demands a small brush unit would need for the low speed pump and roll uses these units respond on. The relatively small Gallons Per Minute (GPM) pumps they use are often powered by little 5-10 hp engines. They could probably run all day off an EVs battery, and low speed driving without wind resistance to overcome doesn't take much either.

Police may (or may not) be a different story, since they don't regularly return to their station during a shift. In our city at least, they go from call to call, only returning to the station for a quick fuel up or to switch personnel. One thing that could work in favor of EV police cars is the amount of time they spend sitting in parking lots completing reports. If a city would install Level II chargers at city facilities throughout the area, near food and restroom opportunities, they could be adding charge during those down times.
Forest fires are likely a big issue for EVs.

Police cars work quite well. Lots of departments have switched over already. While they are driving all over town, they rarely cover more than a hundred miles in a shift and can plug in when they get back to the station.
 

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Be interesting to see if Cybertruck gets picked up for things like this.
I could see a CT with a small water tank mounted in the vault to respond with its speed and agility to an incident until the full-size trucks get there. Would be interesting to say the least.
 

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Well we would need some right now. We lost a 737 Fireliner water bomber in our national park fire this afternoon. Our only one too, and we just got it.

Very smokey atm but fire is heading away from town and us. But wind will turn tomorrow. Started from lightning strike just like last year...
For those wanting more details about tanker "crash"

https://jalopnik.com/firefighting-boeing-737-crashes-in-australia-crew-walk-1850078237



Considered a crash by the general public and the owner of the plane, among us pilots, anything you can walk away from is called a "landing"! 🤣

Thankful that there were only minor injuries among my colleagues. Stay Safe JBee!
 
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The main issue with the National Park fire is access for any type of vehicle. The thing is just so large (3000sqkm)there's not way to get in except to follow a dozer through that is actually making the path. That's why they send water bombers. The only good side to a park fire is that there is no people living there.

I also do SAR, spot fire scouting and survey for the fire dept using drones and quadplanes, and I'm currently working on building a 150kg (300lb) payload VTOL quadplane as a spray/pellet spreader for broad acre farming to replace ice tractors. I was thinking that due to the relatively high spreading rate of up to 5t/hr you could actually put down a fair bit of suppressant around homes etc with pinpoint accuracy. Would be faster than a CT by itself, and if you combine the two I think you'd have a big capability multiplier for such a small and affordable unit, plus the drone battery swap could charge from the CT. A tethered drone would also work to give you some vertical capability.

You could also lay down a back burn row in a instant with a remote torch on the same machine. Best thing is you don't have anyone onboard and you can work from safety, where you have road access, and where a water tanker can pull up. Plus terrain is absolutely a non issue, although operating near fires has its own wind sheer and up/down draft problems.

One of the bigger issues is retaining comms to over the horizon, in fact bush fire comms is a problem in itself in that the fire plasma interferes with signals, that's why back when I was more involved, we were looking at flying SDR based pico mobile cell towers, and all our drones were 4G enabled, on top of the usual 915Mhz and 2.4/5Ghz links. Now, at least on the large drone, you can mount Starlink, or at least relay that from a CT with Starlink.

Overall I think there's a worthwhile solution that could be developed there.
 
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When will the Fire Department learn… how much range is lost with an external light bar…
 

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When will the Fire Department learn… how much range is lost with an external light bar…
Huh? I'm not bright enough to understand the relevance of you comment to the discussion so far. ;)
 

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Huh? I'm not bright enough to understand the relevance of you comment to the discussion so far. ;)
I meant for the beginning of the comment to sound as if Fire Departments are crazy for using Tesla vehicles but, my comment was really due to range loss for the light bar. Attempt at being funny, fell flat.

At least a flat joke does not affect aerodynamics.
 

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Forest fires are likely a big issue for EVs.
Not really: Most fires are quick response, like urban, without many miles traveled. Then generators or generator trucks are set up.

Batteries idle much better than large generators, so would make supply lines easier to manage. This is why the military is interested in more and more EV equipment.

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