Thoughtful Comparison of Foundation vs. Non-Foundation Cybertruck, plus a hate experience

[CTSoFL]

I filed a class action lawsuit due to lack of ejector seats.

I will have my day in court.

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[MadMaxTX]

Depends on your utility and thus where you live. Mine offers 6.5c/Kwh for timed use plan. Otherwise its 12.5c/Kwh for standard plan.

Sure, I understand off hours and other plans, I'm just wondering if that could possibly be his total real cost. For example, my "energy cost" is a little over 6c/kwh but when you add in all the other fees, it is really about double that in total. It depends on how much we use. And Superchargers can be around triple that total number -- 35c - 39c/ kwh recently. I'm just wondering if he is getting an industrial rate that could be that low in total.

 

[btcrealm]

To be fair, the reason China can move so fast is because they just YOLO the environmental/safety aspect of mass production, especially for toxic materials needed for batteries.

Also, the Chinese cars may appear quality, but I've seen tear-downs that show indicate they are not. I have to say that a lot of Chinese products are quite good now, not like it used to be.

China also owns and manages several of these EV companies. Kinda hard to lose when state sponsored and run. China is also pushing the EV narrative to the literal detriment of gas brands.

Hmmm ... outside of the bubble here and other like 'forums' the past couple years of Elons actions and antics will affect Tesla and is one of the reasons I don't think the Cybertruck will come close to dominating the market. By in large, It is only doing it now because of Tesla superfans.

I am an example of a never EV that got harassed into making a $100 refundable deposit 5 years ago. I figured I would never buy it and it shut up a buddy, LoL.
I now own it, absolutely love it (still don't trust the electric concept 100% but we are working on that).
Give someone one to drive for 3 days and they won't want to go back.

Sure, I understand off hours and other plans, I'm just wondering if that could possibly be his total real cost. For example, my "energy cost" is a little over 6c/kwh but when you add in all the other fees, it is really about double that in total. It depends on how much we use. And Superchargers can be around triple that total number -- 35c - 39c/ kwh recently. I'm just wondering if he is getting an industrial rate that could be that low in total.

Shops can get better rates that households. There are incentives for industrial areas as well as stranded use narratives. If they build out a large infrastructure in an area they need to keep that power used to make money.

 

[REM]

Not just whine. Threaten. He didn't have the balls to talk to the owner on the spot. But called the office and threaten harm because he thinks that makes him tough doing over a phone. What a coward and an idiot. Glad he is in jail. Wish this was on the news.

When a "thing" that you didn't buy, and don't need to buy or look at, can trigger you so much that it makes you do things that can affect your life...Man. There are some really crazy people out there.

Untreated mental health issues are popping up.

Another case of Tik-tok brain. It's almost like that platform is a psychological weapon ?

 

[REM]

Sure, I understand off hours and other plans, I'm just wondering if that could possibly be his total real cost. For example, my "energy cost" is a little over 6c/kwh but when you add in all the other fees, it is really about double that in total. It depends on how much we use. And Superchargers can be around triple that total number -- 35c - 39c/ kwh recently. I'm just wondering if he is getting an industrial rate that could be that low in total.

I'm at $0.039 kWH ?

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

I'm at $0.39 kWH ?

Damn! That’s more expensive than many SuperChargers! The last one I was at was .34!

 

[REM]

Damn! That’s more expensive than many SuperChargers! The last one I was at was .34!

I forgot to add a zero haha! Fixed it

 

[DJAlan2000]

Sure, I understand off hours and other plans, I'm just wondering if that could possibly be his total real cost. For example, my "energy cost" is a little over 6c/kwh but when you add in all the other fees, it is really about double that in total. It depends on how much we use. And Superchargers can be around triple that total number -- 35c - 39c/ kwh recently. I'm just wondering if he is getting an industrial rate that could be that low in total.

Your fees DOUBLE the cost of your "E"?? wow!! Hope that never happens here in CA... Right now I think we are paying 25c off peak and 58c peak... I can't imagine the price doubling in 'fees'... Ours are about $22 a month right now (out bill is in the negative though because we have solar), but it used to cost us about $350 a month total...

 

[Empty tank]

Awesome video ??, elections can make people crazy. I figure we got one vote and after that what ever happens, happen. It's pretty much above our pay grades. At least mine. Thanks for sharing, God bless you brother ??

 

[MadMaxTX]

Your fees DOUBLE the cost of your "E"?? wow!! Hope that never happens here in CA... Right now I think we are paying 25c off peak and 58c peak... I can't imagine the price doubling in 'fees'... Ours are about $22 a month right now (out bill is in the negative though because we have solar), but it used to cost us about $350 a month total...

I didn't say it well. We pay about 12.5¢/kwh total. But that splits out as about 7¢ for the energy and the rest is transmission (grid) costs and taxes.. The transmission and energy may be supplied by different entities. The grid supplier is the traditoon electric utility and may also supply the energy but that's competitive. Other companies can supply the energy over the same grid.

I think it's cheap which is why I was curious about the "6¢" electricity.

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