Turn off FSD Camera?

[REM]

im hoping for an upgrade to address this issue. My wife’s 2017 Honda minivan has a much better system for this: visual alert followed by soft dinging and system stops adjusting steering; system automatically restarts with slight pressure on steering wheel. You always feel like you are driving, even if you are not actually driving, and it’s never annoying when it mistakenly thinks you are not attentive. Eventually Tesla will find a less upsetting/disturbing/annoying/ludicrous monitoring method. But I guarantee they’ll never let you have truly full self driving. They’ll never sell this: too valuable.

I think Tesla has an excellent system in place. Silent/subdued when it can be, alerting when necessary, and alarming when something sketchy is happening.

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[Redfire]

im hoping for an upgrade to address this issue. My wife’s 2017 Honda minivan has a much better system for this: visual alert followed by soft dinging and system stops adjusting steering; system automatically restarts with slight pressure on steering wheel. You always feel like you are driving, even if you are not actually driving, and it’s never annoying when it mistakenly thinks you are not attentive. Eventually Tesla will find a less upsetting/disturbing/annoying/ludicrous monitoring method. But I guarantee they’ll never let you have truly full self driving. They’ll never sell this: too valuable.

Respectfully, your wife's minivan doesn't have FSD. It has a very elaborate lane keeping system. Of course you always feel like you're driving because you are. You're just an elaborate monitor of the lane keeper.

Tesla will have self driving sooner than you think and it will be licensed to other manufacturers. Per the last quarter conference call they're already in talks with other manufacturers.

 

[L3it3R]

I have been using FSD for a few years now. And I’ve owned many other cars with ADAS systems from Mercedes, Volvo, VW/Audi, etc.

No other ADAS systems I’ve tested comes REMOTELY close to FSD 12 or 13, let alone where FSD 10 was 3 years ago.

The blue cruise and other systems for highways are impressive, but don’t even have the capability that FSD does today.

They will reach autonomy in a publicly owned fleet. It’s not a question of if, rather when, and it is closer now than ever.

anyway. That requires driver attention monitoring at the moment. So to circle back, no - you can’t disable it, get over it and drive the car the way it’s designed - to be safer than you obviously are trying to use it.

 

[OldDirtyRobot]

What's your general reasoning for doing this, though?

Messing things up for everyone else.

 

[OldDirtyRobot]

I find that if don't mess with my phone, FSD is pretty nag free.

 

[OldDirtyRobot]

I have a pragmatic question for you. Which is safer?

1. OP doing whatever dangerous behavior you think is happening with FSD on and the internal camera off, using steering wheel monitoring.
2. OP doing whatever dangerous behavior you think is happening with FSD off.

The way I see it I would rather everyone be using FSD. For example, I cant stop people from driving drunk, but I would much rather they do it with FSD on.

I normally would agree with you, but with the media sensitivity around FSD I'd rather not see "Cybertruck runs into school bus while on FSD" because people want to play candy crush while driving. The system works really well if you actually pay attention. Lets just be patient while it improves.

 

[bg002h]

Respectfully, your wife's minivan doesn't have FSD. It has a very elaborate lane keeping system. Of course you always feel like you're driving because you are. You're just an elaborate monitor of the lane keeper.

Tesla will have self driving sooner than you think and it will be licensed to other manufacturers. Per the last quarter conference call they're already in talks with other manufacturers.

Yeah, on the highway, the Honda adaptive cruise control and lane assist thing works perfectly for the boring case of everything goes normally…but one doesn’t have to pay attention at all and the Honda system works unobtrusively…

it’s a fine balance between convenience and nanny-ing grown men driving a truck. Tesla falls well to the right on that spectrum with every alert it gives, and a lot of men find it annoying. I don’t need one more hysterical hyperventilating worry wort pestering me…but that’s exactly how the CT makes me feel: like the girl you chose not to marry because she was just a bit too nuts.

 

[Pops]

1. Buy a laptop camera cover on Amazon.
2. With cover off turn on FSD
3. Slide cover over camera
4. FSD will give a warning about a camera being unusable, but will keep working
5. It will now use the steering wheel torque to confirm attentiveness

I have tested and confirmed this works. Before you righteous zealots get all over me how I am going to kill a bus full of disabled children doing this... this is the exact safety measure Tesla used for years and still uses if you wear a hat.

FYI This has been patched and no longer works. When the camera is blocked FSD will disengage. I tested it yesterday, latest version.

 

[bg002h]

FYI This has been patched and no longer works. When the camera is blocked FSD will disengage. I tested it yesterday, latest version.

Tesla is the official nanny state of the auto industry. I think they fear people wanting responsibility. It’s sickening to me to think people out there think Tesla is “being reasonable” or this nonsense is ok.

 

[REM]

Tesla is the official nanny state of the auto industry. I think they fear people wanting responsibility. It’s sickening to me to think people out there think Tesla is “being reasonable” or this nonsense is ok.

Then cover your cameras and drive manually. Until we reach full autonomy, this will be our middle ground.

 

[bg002h]

Then cover your cameras and drive manually. Until we reach full autonomy, this will be our middle ground.

It’s not a middle ground. It’s what a bunch of sissies consent to because they want a micromanaging nanny…it’s arguable Tesla broke the law in their advertising of this pricey feature…

a true middle ground would be what other manufacturers do…Tesla is way off on the hysterical end of the spectrum. In my neighborhood, I can’t look down the road where the vehicle is headed over a 90° bend in the road without a warning. That’s a little silly.

 

[REM]

It’s not a middle ground. It’s what a bunch of sissies consent to because they want a micromanaging nanny…it’s arguable Tesla broke the law in their advertising of this pricey feature…

a true middle ground would be what other manufacturers do…Tesla is way off on the hysterical end of the spectrum. In my neighborhood, I can’t look down the road where the vehicle is headed over a 90° bend in the road without a warning. That’s a little silly.

so, are you going to cover your cameras or not? I'm confused, are you looking for a solution or to complain?

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

 

[L3it3R]

? I use FSD daily and NEVER have issues. Stop trying to force the system to work how you want it to and use it the way it’s designed.

 

[bg002h]

so, are you going to cover your cameras or not? I'm confused, are you looking for a solution or to complain?

Oh, just to complain. They’ve lost their feeble minds with this one. I don’t think this type of stupidity can be fixed.

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