When do you think we’ll get our first CyberTruck model update? And what will it be?

[Sjohnson20]

They will probably do some updates to the interior like they did on the Model 3 after a few years.

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[Cyber Satoshi]

Man I don’t know…. But I hope some of the hardware updates can be purchased and replaced on the trucks rolling out now.

Would be cool to be able to upgrade our existing trucks.

 

[CTOWannabe]

I"m not terribly concerned with visual outward tweaks. I kind of like the crazy design. I'm more concerned with bug fixes, refinements, but most importantly a long range model. We've seen lots of different interpolations of "long range" in various other models of Tesla. From bare bones rear wheel drive versions, to tweaked 2 motor/AWD versions, to even boosts to what used to be 'ludicrous' versions of the model S, are now 400+ mile versions.

I'm hoping for some longer range upgrades.

Here in texas where I drive we have 85mph speed limits where in many sections, the true average speed is around 98-103mph. It is literally dangerous to go only 65mph, even in the right lane. So the true range around where I drive is seriously hampered down to the low 200mile range, where as, for my use case I regularly have a 240mile drive (and only one decent supercharger on the route which makes the drive more harrowing than it need be).

As such, if I could get real world range of around 300miles, it would provide me with way more options for the 3hour trip. Reverse engineering that 300mile real world range, I think it would work out to like a 400mile quoted range, so I do think that is in the realm of 'doable' with continued improvements.

My guess is demand for the CT will fade by middle of 2025 (could easily be wrong) by which time it will be a common sight, and they may need something, like perhaps a long range model, to juice sales further. And that's why my hope is 2026 for such a model might be in the realm of possible.

 

[Woodrick]

I had to pass on my reservation because I just need more range for my use case, but still dearly want to get a cybertruck. So I put down for another deposit hoping in the next year or 2, we will get some upgrade for a truck with more range. Hopefully to the originally promised 500m range.

Im not interested in the range extender pack, not only because it eats into the bed, but it will likely severely hurt handling by putting in a heavy pendulum weight raising the center of gravity.

So I’m hoping after some of the initial demand has been soaked up, Tesla will need to release an upgraded model with better range, and my hope/guess is that will happen around 2026.

Curious s to what others think about when and what the first new upgrade/models will be? Maybe a 4 motor version first?

Tesla does updates all long production. It doesn't queue them up for Model years.
At this point, the only changes that you see will be to lower cost and increase the production line. Most of these are minor and not noticeable. Some are a little more noticeable, like when they replaced the seat in the Model 3 or when they changed the center console on the Model Y.
Range may slowly be increased, The Range Externder is going to be the bulk of it.
There won't be any changes in the battery pack, unless production demands it.

Big update will be about 5-6 years from now, which is in line with the timeframe that they have updated the other vehicles.

I think that you are misleading yourself with the range extender acting as a pendulum raising the center of gravity. The center of the vehicle is exactly where you want it. moving it forward or rear ward will dramatically impact the performance. And AFAIK, the bottom of the bed pretty much is the lowest that it can be, it's right on top of the battery.

 

[Woodrick]

Man I don’t know…. But I hope some of the hardware updates can be purchased and replaced on the trucks rolling out now.

Would be cool to be able to upgrade our existing trucks.

That is something that Telsla really never does. It's not needed nor desirable to most.
You get tons of software new features, but about the only hardware is computer upgrades to support FSD, and with HW4, that's not needed. And some of the Model S when going into the faster modes needed a fuse replacement.

 

[Cyber Satoshi]

That is something that Telsla really never does. It's not needed nor desirable to most.
You get tons of software new features, but about the only hardware is computer upgrades to support FSD, and with HW4, that's not needed. And some of the Model S when going into the faster modes needed a fuse replacement.

yeah I was just thinking like in 5-10 years it would be nice to be able to swap out the battery and get more range or something like that…

maybe get a new center console that cools the magnetic phone charger

or a rear cam cleaner

Stuff like that; I get the computer hardware would be tough

 

[CTOWannabe]

Tesla does updates all long production. It doesn't queue them up for Model years.
At this point, the only changes that you see will be to lower cost and increase the production line. Most of these are minor and not noticeable. Some are a little more noticeable, like when they replaced the seat in the Model 3 or when they changed the center console on the Model Y.
Range may slowly be increased, The Range Externder is going to be the bulk of it.
There won't be any changes in the battery pack, unless production demands it.

Big update will be about 5-6 years from now, which is in line with the timeframe that they have updated the other vehicles.

I think that you are misleading yourself with the range extender acting as a pendulum raising the center of gravity. The center of the vehicle is exactly where you want it. moving it forward or rear ward will dramatically impact the performance. And AFAIK, the bottom of the bed pretty much is the lowest that it can be, it's right on top of the battery.

Physics disagrees with you on center of gravity wrt to the range extender. The sled is at the bottom of the vehicle bringing the center of gravity pretty low. The range extender sits probably around 2' higher. Plus concentrating a lot of weight in a singlular strip is not as good as distributing it all along the skateboard bottom.

Lastly, from some tear downs, people have noted there is a lot of space in the skateboard to basically double up batteries and there is a lot of empty space. Perhaps that is a necessary part of the design to have some extra space there for expansion.

I think the rest of yoru analysis is very fair, and probably more likely than my hopes for more range.

 

[Whmorken]

I had to pass on my reservation because I just need more range for my use case, but still dearly want to get a cybertruck. So I put down for another deposit hoping in the next year or 2, we will get some upgrade for a truck with more range. Hopefully to the originally promised 500m range.

Im not interested in the range extender pack, not only because it eats into the bed, but it will likely severely hurt handling by putting in a heavy pendulum weight raising the center of gravity.

So I’m hoping after some of the initial demand has been soaked up, Tesla will need to release an upgraded model with better range, and my hope/guess is that will happen around 2026.

Curious s to what others think about when and what the first new upgrade/models will be? Maybe a 4 motor version first?

Good question not easily answered because technology changes are speeding up and the CT is so different from other Tesla models. The 2024 M3 is radically better than 2018 M3 I drove; so a 5-6 year wait seems too slow. Our 2020 MX P is good but clearly outdated. I agree with others here who speculate that a 4 motor CT version may come soon if only to compete for top spot among E trucks. Sales also may determine the outcome. Elon said if no one likes the CT he could easily build a great conventional pickup; but he won’t (that would be boring), and if not, we should expect major tweaks inside and out, better batteries, and truly sophisticated FSD driven changes, all within 3 years. By then the CT lives or dies on its merits. Long live stainless steel or something even better.

 

[AlmostHuman]

Range extender

 

[Vegetaban]

Fix the inadequate center console. I want something to block up and separate the center footwell. It's a matter of time before my water bottle or hard sunglass case rolls away and towards the pedals.

I actually like the open floor space, the center being blocked out like that drives me nuts.

 

[Woodrick]

yeah I was just thinking like in 5-10 years it would be nice to be able to swap out the battery and get more range or something like that…

maybe get a new center console that cools the magnetic phone charger

or a rear cam cleaner

Stuff like that; I get the computer hardware would be tough

Tesla really has never had (nor needed to have) battery upgrades. (except for software limitations)

The phone charger works well. It's MagSafe iPhones that have the problems.

I've never needed my rear camera cleaned. This is mostly FUD created by people who didn't have their trucks yet.

 

[SCTesla]

Tesla really has never had (nor needed to have) battery upgrades. (except for software limitations)

The phone charger works well. It's MagSafe iPhones that have the problems.

I've never needed my rear camera cleaned. This is mostly FUD created by people who didn't have their trucks yet.

IMO, the phone charger is the worst in a Tesla I've used (both my wife and I have Samsung Galaxies).

My Model S and MY phone chargers are fast chargers. I think on my 2 hour trip, the CT added 1% and made my phone really hot.

Minor complaint overall.

 

[Woodrick]

Physics disagrees with you on center of gravity wrt to the range extender. The sled is at the bottom of the vehicle bringing the center of gravity pretty low. The range extender sits probably around 2' higher. Plus concentrating a lot of weight in a singlular strip is not as good as distributing it all along the skateboard bottom.

Lastly, from some tear downs, people have noted there is a lot of space in the skateboard to basically double up batteries and there is a lot of empty space. Perhaps that is a necessary part of the design to have some extra space there for expansion.

I think the rest of yoru analysis is very fair, and probably more likely than my hopes for more range.

I still think that physics is on my side.

If the mass is concentrated at the CoG, then in many ways, it is the same as being distributing. After all, that's the basic concept of CoG.
2 inches, yes, can be a lot, but it really isn't a lot, and the other option would be to lift the remainder of the truck about that, a much more problematic approach.

The battery space is for safety in the advent of an issue. Tesla doesn't want to hear the stories about the batteries catching fire anymore. They have redesigned the battery case to attempt to keep this from happening. The lack of expansion space for the gasses from a problematic cell is what they are fixing. If a battery starts out-gassing, they want to contain it.

But it all boils down to range anxiety. Nothing is good enough until you can get over it.

I purposely worked to overcome my range anxiety many years ago in my Leaf that got 88 miles range. We went on a trip that was over 50 miles away. And this was 8 years ago when charging wasn't littered all over the place as it is today.
There was a DCFC that had marginal reliability and a J-1772 or two at the destination. And of course, a number of 120V plugs. If things went well, we'd be back home in three hours, plan B meant 8 hours and plan C was a day or 2.
Things didn't work out as expected, the DCFC was blocked and only semi-functional, but we got the charge.

Having a vehicle with 300 miles is leaps and bounds beyond that. It also makes getting over range anxiety even harder. You'd need to take a trip at least 200 miles one-way to not be able to get back home. And there are so very few places that you can go 200 miles these days that you don't pass a couple of Superchargers along the way.

 

[Cyber Satoshi]

Tesla really has never had (nor needed to have) battery upgrades. (except for software limitations)

The phone charger works well. It's MagSafe iPhones that have the problems.

I've never needed my rear camera cleaned. This is mostly FUD created by people who didn't have their trucks yet.

Yeah that's what worries me... I have a iPhone 14 Pro... Maybe they'll allow the user to disable the charger via software?

 

[SCTesla]

Yeah that's what worries me... I have a iPhone 14 Pro... Maybe they'll allow the user to disable the charger via software?

IMO it's a bad batch of chargers. I've owned 4 Teslas and been in numerous and it's the worst one. That doesn't make much sense and then some say that it's fine, so leads me to believe there's just a batch of bad ones (large batch as it looks like most users).

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