Which Blizzaks to get?

[HaulingAss]

i'd rather have a "winter tire with a dedicated winter rubber compound on ice".

I'm a huge fan of dedicated winter tires. However, I think on a heavy, powerful truck the case is not as clear as it is on regular passenger cars. Because the winter rubber compounds used on truck tires are probably not as grippy on ice compared to those on winter car tires (due to practical considerations with tearing/chunking, and wear life, etc.). And if a winter truck tire could be found that did have the same grip on ice as a winter car tire, it would probably get shredded pretty easily on rocky terrain, with heavy loads or under high acceleration forces.

That's why I decided to try out the AT offering. If it's not good enough in winter conditions, I'll just use them up in the off-winter seasons and get winter tires installed on the rims that originally came with the Goodyear ATs from the factory. With all the off-roading and hard cornering, acceleration, etc. I've been doing on the OEM tires, they will be lucky to last 10K miles. And I will find out how I like the "winter" AT tires for summer use, if I chose. They look a lot more capable in the kinds of off-roading I've already been doing on the OEM tires. To be clear, I've not had any particular problems with the OEM tires off-road, besides them being really bad in deep, sloppy old snowpack (which around here blocks high roads through July). And I haven't encountered much thick mud yet.

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[HaulingAss]

I have 23000 referral credits. It's annoying I can't use them towards the winter tire package.

I don't bother with referral credits. My wife just bought a new Performance Model 3 on her Tesla account, I could have referred her, but I decided it wasn't worth the trouble.

Did Tesla change the rules for using referral credits after you got them? Or why do you find that so annoying? You sound entitled.

 

[swinefeaster]

Entitled? Lol ok

There's plenty of accessories for cars that I don't own that credits can be used for in the store. Why bother with a referral program if you're gonna expire the credits without letting customers use them for anything?

As much as I love Tesla, I'm annoyed about some things they do.

 

[swinefeaster]

I'm a huge fan of dedicated winter tires. However, I think on a heavy, powerful truck the case is not as clear as it is on regular passenger cars. Because the winter rubber compounds used on truck tires are probably not as grippy on ice compared to those on winter car tires (due to practical considerations with tearing/chunking, and wear life, etc.). And if a winter truck tire could be found that did have the same grip on ice as a winter car tire, it would probably get shredded pretty easily on rocky terrain, with heavy loads or under high acceleration forces.

That's why I decided to try out the AT offering. If it's not good enough in winter conditions, I'll just use them up in the off-winter seasons and get winter tires installed on the rims that originally came with the Goodyear ATs from the factory. With all the off-roading and hard cornering, acceleration, etc. I've been doing on the OEM tires, they will be lucky to last 10K miles. And I will find out how I like the "winter" AT tires for summer use, if I chose. They look a lot more capable in the kinds of off-roading I've already been doing on the OEM tires. To be clear, I've not had any particular problems with the OEM tires off-road, besides them being really bad in deep, sloppy old snowpack (which around here blocks high roads through July). And I haven't encountered much thick mud yet.

I'm worried about ice, not mud. I do a lot of driving through icy and blizzardy conditions for snowboarding cause that's when the snow is good. I had blizzaks on the model x and they were great, never had issues. I had a loaner model x while mine was in repair and almost trashed it in the icy parking lot when it slid out without warning. So trying to avoid that

 

[Gundo]

I’d be very worried about Blizzaks on the CT.
They are true dual compound, with the external compound being super soft and porous to engage ice grip.
You’ll chew them in no time.

If you’re this concerned about ice, you may want to consider studded snows.

Some days it feels like nearly 1/2 of locals in Vermont where we ski seem to run studs.

On the plus side, they handle like crap, are slippery af on dry roads, are noisy and tear the crap out of the roads, but you won’t get stuck, ever.

 

[swinefeaster]

i just realized the weight diff between CT (5,148 lbs) and Model X (6,669 lbs) is not as big as i thought (base models).

so wouldn't the wear of blizzaks be the roughly the same? mine survived 2 winter seasons before going below the winter rated tread levels, and i didn't baby them at all.

 

[BornToFly]

Hopefully someone will try the AT tires Tesla is offering before I have to put mine on. Worse case, I take those off and sell them, and buy the Blizzaks.

 

[Outdoors]

18 cents worth of thought.

Some are overthinking the weight and snow tires. Unless one pushes the limits on seasons. Depending on what it is they are added in fall to early winter.

Studs are that, and unless one hasn't had the fun of crazy ice. Don't know what to say. Ya either know or you don't. One of ours always has studs. Watching trucks slide backwards is crazy. Having studs is just a great feeling, but like everything. Know the application, and limits. I love winter.

Just like one of them has chains at ready. Other with snow dedicated.

Different conditions warrant different tools. Sometimes the best tool is the mind. Staying home.

 

[Gundo]

We had Blizzaks on our 5,600 lb MB GLS550. Plus the four of us and gear, easily 6,000 lbs plus.

And that GLS chewed up Blizzaks like candy. Installed at Thanksgiving, off by March 15. They last 1 season.

I think weight is a massive factor for Blizzaks. And weight definitely impacts tire wear at more than a linear rate.

Blizzaks don’t carry a mileage warranty,and have no UTQG rating. So there’s not really a reference point.

I’m considering the Duratracs right now, as the stock Goodyears don’t have nearly enough tread for true winter driving, even when new.

 

[XCeilidhX]

FWIW I prefer these over the Blizzaks:

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-winter-tires/nokian-tyres-hakkapeliitta-lt3/

Just my 2 cents.

Blizzaks would be my second choice.

Happy winter driving.

Cheers

 

[swinefeaster]

FWIW I prefer these over the Blizzaks:

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-winter-tires/nokian-tyres-hakkapeliitta-lt3/

Just my 2 cents.

Blizzaks would be my second choice.

Happy winter driving.

Cheers

thanks. why do you prefer them?

 

[bigmoose70]

FWIW I prefer these over the Blizzaks:

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-winter-tires/nokian-tyres-hakkapeliitta-lt3/

Just my 2 cents.

Blizzaks would be my second choice.

Happy winter driving.

Cheers

But these don’t have the option for Cybertruck tire size without new wheels. Great winter tires though.

 

[EmmA]

sweet. why did you get spare rims? costco will do a swap for $50.

I was actually looking at buying a spare to keep in the truck. The spare rim was about $300 and believe it or not I ended up scoring a set of 4 for less than $600. So in the end I have a set I can switch out myself and have an extra i can throw in the back as a spare.

 

[swinefeaster]

I was actually looking at buying a spare to keep in the truck. The spare rim was about $300 and believe it or not I ended up scoring a set of 4 for less than $600. So in the end I have a set I can switch out myself and have an extra i can throw in the back as a spare.

but you need an extra set of sensors, and those are $150 each i think ?

 

[HaulingAss]

I’d be very worried about Blizzaks on the CT.
They are true dual compound, with the external compound being super soft and porous to engage ice grip.
You’ll chew them in no time.

If you’re this concerned about ice, you may want to consider studded snows.

Some days it feels like nearly 1/2 of locals in Vermont where we ski seem to run studs.

On the plus side, they handle like crap, are slippery af on dry roads, are noisy and tear the crap out of the roads, but you won’t get stuck, ever.

I've seen plenty of people stuck on ice with studs. It sounds like a buzz saw. If the temperature is on the warm side, the ice is melting and doesn't have a lot of strength. Because studs are small, and there aren't very many of them in contact with the driving surface at one time, they don't have enough surface area to get much purchase.

But I agree with you about how bad dual compound tires are. I had dual compound winter tires once, after the softer rubber is gone, you have tires that no longer work on snow and ice, and aren't very good for anything else either. They worked great when new, but never again. Kind of like studs.

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