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Any issue with your wipers? I love Rain-X but read this and got hesitant.

No Additives for Rain-Sensing: Skip fluids with water-repellent coatings (e.g., Rain-X) or bug removers, as they can leave residues that interfere with the Cybertruck’s Autopilot cameras and rain-sensing wipers, triggering false alerts or dry wipes.
Seems like weasel-wording from the legal department. I don’t particularly like the RainX washer fluid, but many, including myself, use hydrophobic coatings on the windshield with positive effect.
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Seems like weasel-wording from the legal department. I don’t particularly like the RainX washer fluid, but many, including myself, use hydrophobic coatings on the windshield with positive effect.
Good call as you’re probably right! Thanks for letting me know as I’ll look into the coatings. 👍
 

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Seems like weasel-wording from the legal department. I don’t particularly like the RainX washer fluid, but many, including myself, use hydrophobic coatings on the windshield with positive effect.
I will henceforth be assimilating the term “weasel-wording” into my daily language.
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“While avoiding spilling, fill the reservoir until the fluid level is visible just below the filler neck. The reservoir has a total capacity of 4.2 liters.”

I asked Google to translate “4.2 liters” and it gave me “4,2 litros” lol. Calculator says that’s 1.1 gallons.
 
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Good call as you’re probably right!
I will henceforth be assimilating the term “weasel-wording” into my daily language.
Other examples of “weasel-wording” in the Owner’s Manual
include gems like these:

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Remember to wear your PPE when filling the washer reservoir. Safety first! 🤣
 


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Seems like weasel-wording from the legal department. I don’t particularly like the RainX washer fluid, but many, including myself, use hydrophobic coatings on the windshield with positive effect.
BRO!!! I’m right here!!! WTF!? VERY HURTFUL!

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Other examples of “weasel-wording” in the Owner’s Manual
include gems like these:

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Remember to wear your PPE when filling the washer reservoir. Safety first! 🤣
So, I guess admin just allows hate speech now? FINE!

But, when your car goes supersonic because you reduced the coefficient of drag to unsafe levels by putting RainX on your windshield (despite my strong objections), or you lose your hearing due to the incessant squeaking of your BFA, or suffer the horrors of acute conjunctivitis because you got this crap in your eyes don’t come crying to me!!!

As a former OSHA compliance officer and current law weasel, I feel attacked!

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As a former OSHA compliance officer and current law weasel, I feel attacked!
The funniest time I ever had at work was when they forced us to watch the OSHA training videos. It was like a mashup of The Office and The Three Stooges
 

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I really respected OSHA at one point and did all the training religiously until they completely abandoned and sold out everybody in healthcare to bow to idiots with political agendas during the pandemic. On both sides of the aisle.
I remember those insane memos that empowered hospital admins to do nothing as all of us infected our families for the “privilege” of taking care of others who were still using the world hoax while they were being intubated.
“it’s ok if you have one n95 mask for an entire week of clawing through a jungle of infected patients inside the hospital walls as long as you put it in a brown paper bag at the end of the day and occasionally inspect it to make sure it looks roughly the same as it did when you first got it.” Said OSHA.
And “It’s ok if you use the same gloves on several different patients as long as you know they all have COVID” and, “it’s ok to work more than24hrs at a time on the critically ill as long as you don’t self report as fatigued”
The health and safety of us health and safety professionals should have been science, not an opinion. One that was repeatedly bought and sold no less.
Fuck OSHA. Truly spineless weasels at an organizational level that abandoned everyone in my field the one time we really needed them. Never doing one of the “trainings” they offer again. I’ll get my compliance CME’s elsewhere thank you very much.
 

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Sorry Dalton. What happened there is just very hard to forgive. I have friends who lost loved ones and lives at least in part because of it.
 
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I really respected OSHA at one point and did all the training religiously until they completely abandoned and sold out everybody in healthcare to bow to idiots with political agendas during the pandemic. On both sides of the aisle.
I remember those insane memos that empowered hospital admins to do nothing as all of us infected our families for the “privilege” of taking care of others who were still using the world hoax while they were being intubated.
“it’s ok if you have one n95 mask for an entire week of clawing through a jungle of infected patients inside the hospital walls as long as you put it in a brown paper bag at the end of the day and occasionally inspect it to make sure it looks roughly the same as it did when you first got it.” Said OSHA.
And “It’s ok if you use the same gloves on several different patients as long as you know they all have COVID” and, “it’s ok to work more than24hrs at a time on the critically ill as long as you don’t self report as fatigued”
The health and safety of us health and safety professionals should have been science, not an opinion. One that was repeatedly bought and sold no less.
Fuck OSHA. Truly spineless weasels at an organizational level that abandoned everyone in my field the one time we really needed them. Never doing one of the “trainings” they offer again. I’ll get my compliance CME’s elsewhere thank you very much.
State OSHA? 😆 And I left in 1999 to go to Weasel Law School. And unfortunately you’re right definitely at the federal level more so than those states that run their own program, the agency is very political. One stat I always like to share, there are more forestry inspectors than there are OSHA inspectors. By a lot! Always have been.

My other fun fact to share with people especially hyper-partisans is that Nixon created both OSHA and the EPA (i.e. signed them into law). We’re living in one big Overton window shift on steroids!

Also, btw, a non-trivial part of my practice is defending employers against OSHA. I’m kind of uniquely qualified. 😉 I was the chief administrative officer before I went to law school.
 
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State OSHA? 😆 And I left in 1999 to go to Weasel Law School. And unfortunately you’re right definitely at the federal level more so than those states that run their own program, the agency is very political. One stat I always like to share, there are more forestry inspectors than there are OSHA inspectors. By a lot! Always have been.

My other fun fact to share with people especially hyper-partisans is that Nixon created both OSHA and the EPA (i.e. signed them into law). We’re living in one big Overton window shift on steroids!

Also, btw, a non-trivial part of my practice is defending employers against OSHA. I’m kind of uniquely qualified. 😉 I was the chief administrative officer before I went to law school.
Want to provide a little context for my admittedly harsh response yesterday. I had this hospitalist friend and colleague who was on an immunosuppressive anti-biologic medication for an autoimmune disease.
He realized very quickly this would be a problem for him and stopped taking it, but it takes quite some time for your body to recover from that.
Anyway, as the wave was moving westward early in the pandemic and everyone was watching footage of an empty Times Square in horror, the hospitals biggest fear was not having staff to deal with it when it got here which was not entirely unfounded.
So my friend told the hospital about his issue and the response was, “we’re fully in compliance with OSHA standards and you can choose not to be here but you will lose your job. “
He actually sought my advice on this, gave it some thought, and given that he wanted to keep providing for his wife and kids, eventually came to help us when the wave hit. With that same single n95 being used for a week and so forth.
Quickly, he became infected, then intubated and he was actually one of the first people I put on ECMO for COVID. He didn’t make it. Died in a spectacularly dramatic fashion holding my hand in the ICU.
We started a go-fund-me for his family but the hospital literally did nothing to help them in a time of need because they were afraid it would make them look culpable and that made me really angry.
I chased that anger all the way up the administrative chain and eventually hit a brick wall which again was , “these were the OSHA standards, and we complied with them”.
My thoughts are that an organization that is supposed to write apolitical scientific recommendations for health and safety caving to political pressure is one of the most gutless and ultimately harmful things they could have done under the circumstances and it had real world consequences for many people. My friend included.
So please excuse my response yesterday. It’s just something that really hits a nerve with me.
 

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Want to provide a little context for my admittedly harsh response yesterday. I had this hospitalist friend and colleague who was on an immunosuppressive anti-biologic medication for an autoimmune disease.
He realized very quickly this would be a problem for him and stopped taking it, but it takes quite some time for your body to recover from that.
Anyway, as the wave was moving westward early in the pandemic and everyone was watching footage of an empty Times Square in horror, the hospitals biggest fear was not having staff to deal with it when it got here which was not entirely unfounded.
So my friend told the hospital about his issue and the response was, “we’re fully in compliance with OSHA standards and you can choose not to be here but you will lose your job. “
He actually sought my advice on this, gave it some thought, and given that he wanted to keep providing for his wife and kids, eventually came to help us when the wave hit. With that same single n95 being used for a week and so forth.
Quickly, he became infected, then intubated and he was actually one of the first people I put on ECMO for COVID. He didn’t make it. Died in a spectacularly dramatic fashion holding my hand in the ICU.
We started a go-fund-me for his family but the hospital literally did nothing to help them in a time of need because they were afraid it would make them look culpable and that made me really angry.
I chased that anger all the way up the administrative chain and eventually hit a brick wall which again was , “these were the OSHA standards, and we complied with them”.
My thoughts are that an organization that is supposed to write apolitical scientific recommendations for health and safety caving to political pressure is one of the most gutless and ultimately harmful things they could have done under the circumstances and it had real world consequences for many people. My friend included.
So please excuse my response yesterday. It’s just something that really hits a nerve with me.
I’m a passionate guy you have no need to apologize to me. I took no offense and totally resonated with your feelings. I’m sorry for your loss of your friend and I’m sorry that it was so horrendous of an experience.

It is important to note that the consensus standards and NIOSH research upon which most OSHA standards are based are not designed to provide 100% safety everyone would have to go around looking like the “OSHA cowboy” if they were.

At the end of the day the standards are intended to bring risk to within a politically acceptable level whether it’s HazCom or PPE or blood-borne pathogens. And most importantly the standards are to be viewed as the minimum level of protection employers must provide, not best STOTA practices necessarily. Certainly not morally sound levels of employee focused protection. That’s a decision for the CEO/Board.

Again, I’m sorry for your experience and loss, but don’t lose the passion dude! It’s because you care so deeply that you’re out there saving lives, Doc. Thank you for everything that you’re doing!
 
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Want to provide a little context for my admittedly harsh response yesterday. I had this hospitalist friend and colleague who was on an immunosuppressive anti-biologic medication for an autoimmune disease.
He realized very quickly this would be a problem for him and stopped taking it, but it takes quite some time for your body to recover from that.
Anyway, as the wave was moving westward early in the pandemic and everyone was watching footage of an empty Times Square in horror, the hospitals biggest fear was not having staff to deal with it when it got here which was not entirely unfounded.
So my friend told the hospital about his issue and the response was, “we’re fully in compliance with OSHA standards and you can choose not to be here but you will lose your job. “
He actually sought my advice on this, gave it some thought, and given that he wanted to keep providing for his wife and kids, eventually came to help us when the wave hit. With that same single n95 being used for a week and so forth.
Quickly, he became infected, then intubated and he was actually one of the first people I put on ECMO for COVID. He didn’t make it. Died in a spectacularly dramatic fashion holding my hand in the ICU.
We started a go-fund-me for his family but the hospital literally did nothing to help them in a time of need because they were afraid it would make them look culpable and that made me really angry.
I chased that anger all the way up the administrative chain and eventually hit a brick wall which again was , “these were the OSHA standards, and we complied with them”.
My thoughts are that an organization that is supposed to write apolitical scientific recommendations for health and safety caving to political pressure is one of the most gutless and ultimately harmful things they could have done under the circumstances and it had real world consequences for many people. My friend included.
So please excuse my response yesterday. It’s just something that really hits a nerve with me.
Radiologist here. That story hits hard. Dang.
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