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Tesla never released actual release dates, only estimates of when Cybertruck would be ready for production. This is not because they were were trying to fool you (if they were, it looks like it worked), but because they didn't know with any certainty when it would be ready for release.

Everyone, including the mainstream media, knew the estimates were subject to change, because the announced product was so revolutionary. And the estimates did change, twice. Once ofter COVID hit, and once after the supply chain shortages made even things as common as toilet paper more difficult to source. Even now, there is no firm release date because Tesla will not release it until they think it's ready for mass distribution. And for this I am glad. You should be too, instead of calling fans of the products "Elon blowhards".

Many here worried about taking delivery of an early production Cybertruck, being such a new product and all, but I have long expressed confidence in even the very first ones released to the public. Why? Because I know Tesla will refuse to release a half-baked product, one with issues major enough to come back to bite them. Because the Cybertruck needs to be sold profitably, and Tesla knows that includes warranty expense. They will not release the truck until they know it's ready. That's not to say there will be no early issues, of course not. It means they will not be intractable issues. This ain't Tesla's first rodeo.

Not only did Tesla not know exactly when the Cybertruck would ready for public distribution, many predicted the product could not be mass produced, that Elon had lost his mind. That's how revolutionary the product was. Detroit would never even attempt such a radical departure from the staus quo. And those who actually believe it is radical in styling only, still don't understand what a radical departure this is from the products coming out of Detroit. The beauty of the Cybertruck extends beneath it's skin. If you don't believe that I recommend you run, not walk, as far away from Cybertruck as you can get. Cybertruck has never been a vehicle for the faint of heart, or those who need a truck right now. Or for those who need a truck at any particular point in time.

If any of this bothers you, you should buy a F-150, a Sierra, a Silverado, a Ram. The Cybertruck is for those looking for a radical departure from the norm, who do not become weak-kneed when their doubts and anxieties bloom inside of them. Automotive development of a product this revolutionary doesn't come with the snap of a forefinger against the thumb. It requires real work. Hard work. Testing and designing using the best materials science available today, and some materials science that was being developed concurrently with the early prototypes. The results of the testing informs the next stage of development. None of this is easy, much of it cannot be looked up in convenient tables or solved by looking at how it was done in the past.

If you are not willing to be on the cutting edge of automotive technology, you probably shouldn't be hanging around a forum dedicated to a cutting-edge vehicle with only an estimated date of release to the public. That has always been obvious to me, but it seems to have flown right over the heads of those who are out of their personal comfort zone. And those who like to throw peanut shells from the 10 cent seats in the peanut gallery. The real engineers are hard at work building the machine that will make the machine. They will not stop until they have succeeded. The peanut shells are just empty husks, they can't even see them, and if they could, they would pay no attention to them because they know where those shells came from.
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Yeah, they tend to scrape the wheels, they way they clip on with those sharp steel clips.
We have two 2018 Model 3's with Aero covers, one Performance and one Long-Range RWD. We take the Aero covers on/off four times per year (or more) with the seasonal weather, and for roadtrips in the summer they go back on. The covers are installed all winter for wheel protection and efficiency.

The only way the metal clips will scratch the very hard paint used on the 18" wheels is if the road grit is not wiped off before applying the covers. I know because I've been doing it myself for over 5 years and they are often filthy with road grit. I remove the covers when the wheels are filthy and the design is such that it hasn't been scratching the paint on the wheels (which is really hard paint to begin with).

My point is that it is not the fact that the clips are metal instead of plastic, plastic strong enough to hold the covers on reliably would also scratch the paint if you put them on with road grit between the surfaces. If you don't want scratches, and I don't, then wipe the grit off with a microfiber cloth before pushing the covers on. My wheels still look new after 5 years of crappy winter (ski area) roads. The wheels look so good that I take the covers off with the first nice weather car wash in the spring and only put them back on when I'm going on a roadtrip, or when winter comes around again. I actually think the Aero covers have kept my wheels looking new through winters by protecting them from the worst of the winter road debris.
 

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We have two 2018 Model 3's with Aero covers, one Performance and one Long-Range RWD. We take the Aero covers on/off four times per year (or more) with the seasonal weather, and for roadtrips in the summer they go back on. The covers are installed all winter for wheel protection and efficiency.

The only way the metal clips will scratch the very hard paint used on the 18" wheels is if the road grit is not wiped off before applying the covers. I know because I've been doing it myself for over 5 years and they are often filthy with road grit. I remove the covers when the wheels are filthy and the design is such that it hasn't been scratching the paint on the wheels (which is really hard paint to begin with).

My point is that it is not the fact that the clips are metal instead of plastic, plastic strong enough to hold the covers on reliably would also scratch the paint if you put them on with road grit between the surfaces. If you don't want scratches, and I don't, then wipe the grit off with a microfiber cloth before pushing the covers on. My wheels still look new after 5 years of crappy winter (ski area) roads. The wheels look so good that I take the covers off with the first nice weather car wash in the spring and only put them back on when I'm going on a roadtrip, or when winter comes around again. I actually think the Aero covers have kept my wheels looking new through winters by protecting them from the worst of the winter road debris.
I took mine off at Tesla when I picked up my car. The wheels were already scraped the day I bought the car.
 


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Tesla never released actual release dates, only estimates of when Cybertruck would be ready for production. This is not because they were were trying to fool you (if they were, it looks like it worked), but because they didn't know with any certainty when it would be ready for release.

Everyone, including the mainstream media, knew the estimates were subject to change, because the announced product was so revolutionary. And the estimates did change, twice. Once ofter COVID hit, and once after the supply chain shortages made even things as common as toilet paper more difficult to source. Even now, there is no firm release date because Tesla will not release it until they think it's ready for mass distribution. And for this I am glad. You should be too, instead of calling fans of the products "Elon blowhards".

Many here worried about taking delivery of an early production Cybertruck, being such a new product and all, but I have long expressed confidence in even the very first ones released to the public. Why? Because I know Tesla will refuse to release a half-baked product, one with issues major enough to come back to bite them. Because the Cybertruck needs to be sold profitably, and Tesla knows that includes warranty expense. They will not release the truck until they know it's ready. That's not to say there will be no early issues, of course not. It means they will not be intractable issues. This ain't Tesla's first rodeo.

Not only did Tesla not know exactly when the Cybertruck would ready for public distribution, many predicted the product could not be mass produced, that Elon had lost his mind. That's how revolutionary the product was. Detroit would never even attempt such a radical departure from the staus quo. And those who actually believe it is radical in styling only, still don't understand what a radical departure this is from the products coming out of Detroit. The beauty of the Cybertruck extends beneath it's skin. If you don't believe that I recommend you run, not walk, as far away from Cybertruck as you can get. Cybertruck has never been a vehicle for the faint of heart, or those who need a truck right now. Or for those who need a truck at any particular point in time.

If any of this bothers you, you should buy a F-150, a Sierra, a Silverado, a Ram. The Cybertruck is for those looking for a radical departure from the norm, who do not become weak-kneed when their doubts and anxieties bloom inside of them. Automotive development of a product this revolutionary doesn't come with the snap of a forefinger against the thumb. It requires real work. Hard work. Testing and designing using the best materials science available today, and some materials science that was being developed concurrently with the early prototypes. The results of the testing informs the next stage of development. None of this is easy, much of it cannot be looked up in convenient tables or solved by looking at how it was done in the past.

If you are not willing to be on the cutting edge of automotive technology, you probably shouldn't be hanging around a forum dedicated to a cutting-edge vehicle with only an estimated date of release to the public. That has always been obvious to me, but it seems to have flown right over the heads of those who are out of their personal comfort zone. And those who like to throw peanut shells from the 10 cent seats in the peanut gallery. The real engineers are hard at work building the machine that will make the machine. They will not stop until they have succeeded. The peanut shells are just empty husks, they can't even see them, and if they could, they would pay no attention to them because they know where those shells came from.
This is all well and good but it's going on 5 years. I get delays happen - but at some point you do actually have to deliver the car.
People are here because they love this car and are excited to get one - but just because you're totally satisfied to continue to wait. you'll have to forgive those of us that are getting a little impatient.
 

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This is all well and good but it's going on 5 years.
Four years ago today, no one (outside Tesla) knew what the Cybertruck would look like.

Five years ago today, no one knew what the Cybertruck would be named.

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This is all well and good but it's going on 5 years. I get delays happen - but at some point you do actually have to deliver the car.
People are here because they love this car and are excited to get one - but just because you're totally satisfied to continue to wait. you'll have to forgive those of us that are getting a little impatient.
No, Tesla doesn't need to actually deliver the Cybertruck, they can refund all the deposit money. But you can bet they will deliver it, and without too much more waiting. Maybe you should be directing your anger at Canoo, Bollinger, Lucid, Faraday Future, Aptera, Lordstown Motors, or even at the entry level version of the R1T that Rivian just up and cancelled.


I think you missed my point, because I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on one too. But I don't want it until it passes Tesla's standards. I'm only patient outwardly because I know Tesla is doing the best they can, inwardly, I want it last year. It's killing me. But I don't blame Tesla for the delay, I credit them for putting their nose to the grindstone and getting us to this point, the point when a revolutionary product is about to be released, a product that wouldn't exist in any form if Tesla did not decide to do the difficult engineering and testing, and build the lines that will produce it.

You see, I think the people doing the hard work and making it happen deserve the benefit of the doubt because it's a much bigger job than most of us can even comprehend.
 

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I like how the frunk has the casting of the cyber truck graffiti! I hope that they include that in the final production model
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