FSD 13.2.9 now downloading (release notes)

RELEASE NOTES

FSD (Supervised) v13 upgrades every part of the end-to-end driving network.

Includes:

• 36 Hz, full-resolution Al4 video inputs
• Native Al4 inputs and neural network architectures
• 4.2x data scaling
• 5x training compute scaling (enabled by the Cortex cluster)
• Reduced photon-to-control latency by 2x
• Speed Profiles on both City Streets and Highways
• Improved reward predictions for collision avoidance
• Dynamic routing around road closures, which
  displays them along an affected route when they are detected by the fleet

Upcoming Improvements:

• 3x model size scaling
• 3x model context length scaling
• Integrated unpark, reverse, and park capabilities
• Audio inputs for better handling of emergency vehicles
• Improved reward predictions for navigation Improvements to false braking and slower driving in
  parking lots
• Redesigned controller for smoother, more accurate tracking
• Support for destination options including pulling over, parking in a spot, driveway, or garage
• Efficient representation of maps and navigation inputs
• Improved camera cleaning and handling of camera occlusions

Just got the 2025.14.6 version and it came with FSD update 13.2.9. Believe it or not, it actually does much better on small two-lane roads. On my testing roads it usually crosses the center line at least 6 times, and it didn't do it once. It is still "too close" to the center line for my liking, but it may be "usable" now on small two-lane roads. Will have to do some more testing and see how I like it. It was basically unusable for our rural area before, so couldn't even test it much before now.

Would be interested in others' experience with the latest FSD on smaller roads.

carsly said:

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I see your Rivian

ferrellcharles said:

Just got the 2025.14.6 version and it came with FSD update 13.2.9. Believe it or not, it actually does much better on small two-lane roads. On my testing roads it usually crosses the center line at least 6 times, and it didn't do it once. It is still "too close" to the center line for my liking, but it may be "usable" now on small two-lane roads. Will have to do some more testing and see how I like it. It was basically unusable for our rural area before, so couldn't even test it much before now.

Would be interested in others' experience with the latest FSD on smaller roads.

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Oh man, I’ll FINALLY have a reason to do my test loop again

Half of this stuff means nothing to the average person…. So uhmm, why mention it?

4.2 x data scaling? Photon on control latency?

Which one of these will keep FullSelf Driving from running my rear tire into the curb during left turns?!!! Also keep off the left line?? Fix those immediately please!!!

Baldyloxx said:

Half of this stuff means nothing to the average person…. So uhmm, why mention it?

4.2 x data scaling? Photon on control latency?

Which one of these will keep FullSelf Driving from running my rear tire into the curb during left turns?!!! Also keep off the left line?? Fix those immediately please!!!

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I feel like one the the earlier versions of FSD took care of both of these issues for me however after using it today, I continue to experience it driving too close to the left side of the lane.

Noticed one very minor issue for me on this release that is likely no issue at all for just about everybody reading this. In my particular parking situation where I back into my driveway, I have a piece of 2 inch wide reflective tape in the center of my CT rear bumper and a similar piece on the bottom of my garage door. I use these pieces of tape when viewed through the rear camera align to line me up perfectly with my charger cord. With this release, the top of the center of my rear bumper is no longer visible in the rear camera view ... i.e. I can no longer see the reflective tape on the rear bumper when backing. Not a big deal ... I can make do using the on screen white path markers ... but I just found it a lot easier to use those 2 alignment tapes.

LarryASilva said:

Noticed one very minor issue for me on this release that is likely no issue at all for just about everybody reading this. In my particular parking situation where I back into my driveway, I have a piece of 2 inch wide reflective tape in the center of my CT rear bumper and a similar piece on the bottom of my garage door. I use these pieces of tape when viewed through the rear camera align to line me up perfectly with my charger cord. With this release, the top of the center of my rear bumper is no longer visible in the rear camera view ... i.e. I can no longer see the reflective tape on the rear bumper when backing. Not a big deal ... I can make do using the on screen white path markers ... but I just found it a lot easier to use those 2 alignment tapes.

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Are you sure your rear camera zoom setting didn't change? There's a small indicator on the window in the bottom right corner that shows what zoom level you're at.

carsly said:

Integrated unpark, reverse, and park capabilities

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Hopefully this means that we'll be getting A.S.S. and/or "Start FSD(supervised) from park"!! ?

misdemeanor said:

Hopefully this means that we'll be getting A.S.S. and/or "Start FSD(supervised) from park"!! ?

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That has been coming soon since thr CT first got FSD.

Keep in mind, Cybertruck FSD has only existed since the end of September 2024, just 7 months. It's become markedly better with each release and will continue to do so.

Someone asked why share some of the behind-the-scenes improvements - because knowing inputs and process helps people get comfortable with the outputs. The output that matters most, in this case, is the gap to Unsupervised FSD.

I've mentioned in other threads the end of September FSD build was a lot like a first-time teenage driver. Not aware of vehicle dimensions, not understanding turning radii, having difficulty with speed/momentum modulation in low-speed scenarios, sometimes missing traffic controls, etc. In 30 weeks Supervised FSD is already better than 80+% of the drivers on the road IMHO and I can see a path now to 90+% (of course, I'm in the top 10% as are all of you - well, most of you). Not only is it learning, like a new driver, but it's rate of learning is profound and I'd offer it's accelerating as well. That's where the training data, context window, compute and time from photon to control matter.

I'll write it here, on May 13th 2025 that by the end of 2025 there is a very good chance Cybertruck FSD may be a better driver than all of us....

....and then Cybertruck can shake that ASS.

Baldyloxx said:

Half of this stuff means nothing to the average person…. So uhmm, why mention it?

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Maybe for the above average person? But I get your point.

Baldyloxx said:

Half of this stuff means nothing to the average person…. So uhmm, why mention it?

4.2 x data scaling? Photon on control latency?

Which one of these will keep FullSelf Driving from running my rear tire into the curb during left turns?!!! Also keep off the left line?? Fix those immediately please!!!

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I wish they would just say e.g.:

• Better unprotect left turns
• Improved smoother stopping
• Emergency vehicle siren mode activated . . . etc.

Sometimes I feel they are trying to baffle us with BS.

SCTesla said:

That has been coming soon since thr CT first got FSD.

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Yeah and of all the vehicles that I actually need dumb summon features on it’s really irritating that it’s taking this long. The truck is the longest vehicle I own and it’s always sticking out a parking spots I just need to be able to manually move it forward or back a couple of inches. I don’t know how many times I get out thinking I’ve nailed it only to discover that I gotta get back in and try to fix it - which of course is very difficult to do with the door open because it doesn’t like that (and will slam itself back into park like it saved your life as soon as you stop rolling)!

dalton108 said:

Yeah and of all the vehicles that I actually need dumb summon features on it’s really irritating that it’s taking this long. The truck is the longest vehicle I own and it’s always sticking out a parking spots I just need to be able to manually move it forward or back a couple of inches. I don’t know how many times I get out thinking I’ve nailed it only to discover but I gotta get back in and try to fix it which of course is very difficult to do with the door open because it doesn’t like that (and will slam itself back into park like it saved your life as soon as you stop rolling)!

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I use the front and rear cameras to align as close as possible. Field of view combined with the parking simulation view is quite good….

….not as good as a 360 degree top-down view of the vehicle but pretty close