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Why Tesla’s move to 48-volt electrical architecture is an industry game changer




Tesla's CyberTruck has been grabbing attention in the auto industry since its unveiling in 2019. It’s cold-rolled stainless steel exoskeleton chassis and innovative manufacturing methods have been generating increasing interest, despite multiple delays in its launch date. The vehicle's fan base is constantly on the lookout for new information, and recent investor day presentations confirmed a long-discussed innovation: its 48-volt electrical architecture.

In the Tesla investor day presentation at the company's Austin headquarters, Pete Bannon, vice president of Low Voltage and Silicon Engineering at Tesla, announced that Tesla power electronics platforms will be moving to 48 volts.

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“This reduces the current needed by a factor of four and since power loss in the harness is resistance times the square of the current a 4X reduction and current leads to a 16X reduction in lost power.”, said Bannon.

While 48v systems have been partially utilized for high draw componentry in mild hybrid vehicles for a few years now, the CyberTruck replacement of the traditional 12v power electronics system is a significant step forward for the auto industry. In traditional 12v systems, wiring and components have to be larger and heavier to handle high electrical loads. However, the 48v system can handle these loads more efficiently, which reduces the size and weight of wiring and components.

Tesla's vertical integration, manufacturing capabilities, and corporate structure give them an unprecedented agility to design and produce their own highly integrated components in-house, enabling a swift transition to the 48-volt system. The implementation of this technology starting in the CyberTruck provides several advantages. The 48-volt system enables more efficient power delivery and handling of higher electrical loads with smaller less complex cabling, resulting in lower overall weight and greater efficiency gains.

“The (12v) low voltage harness is built from individual wires cut to length crimped and inserted into connectors a manual
process that is tedious error-prone and
doesn't scale well,” said Bannon

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Using a 48v system will likely enable the automated manufacturing of wire looms described in a 2018 patent (US20190217794A1).

In addition to this, the system change further embraces removal for hardware component control systems like relays, fuses, and CANBUS and replaces them with software control over Ethernet.


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“Control over all the software which enables us to develop features and functionality that we never even dreamed of at the time we designed the hardware, so that's why you see software in your car is getting better and better over time in ways that we didn't even think of
when we designed the hardware in the first place” said David Lau VP of software engineering at investor day. For example, sentry mode.

Legacy automakers have been slow to fully adopt 48-volt technology partly due to their dependence on third-party suppliers, who may not be equipped to handle a rapid transition to a new system voltage.

In a recent Autoline Daily interview, Sandy Monroe noted that "Everybody had been talking about doing this for 30 years, but they didn't."

In a 2020 interview with powerelectronicsnews.com Patrick Wadden Global VP Automotive Business Development at Vicor Corporation said
“Overcoming the hesitancy to modify the long-standing cost-optimized 12-volt power delivery network (PDN) may be the biggest challenge”.

According to Cory Steuben, President of Monroe and Associates, manufacturers and suppliers will have to switch to 48 volts: "Either the customer will pay, or the car maker will take the profit loss of not adopting 48 volts."

As more automakers recognize the benefits of the 48-volt system, they will be compelled to invest in the necessary technology and infrastructure to make the switch. Failure to do so could result in a loss of market share and profitability. David Lau closed out his contribution to the 48v discussion with an ominously prescient invite;

“We welcome and encourage other OEMs and the entire supplier network to join us on this evolution.” Which was met with a somewhat sarcastic dismissal of the rest of the automotive manufacturing industry, “Yep, you bet,” laughed Pete Bannon​

TSLA retail investor Matthew Donegan-Ryan, spoke with Tesla executives at the investor day and disclosed on twitter
that Tesla has its own "secret" accessories team dedicated to developing products specifically for the 48-volt architecture, such as lighting, winches, and air compressors.


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These products are designed to work seamlessly with the CyberTruck systems, offering customers a wide range of high-quality accessories that are tailored to the vehicle's capabilities. With this approach, Tesla not only aims to provide a superior product to its customers but also creates new revenue streams and strengthens its brand image as a leader in innovation and design.

The members of the CyberTruck fan site Cybertruckownersclub.com have been letting their imagination run wild over this development hoping that the 'Secret accessories team' would consider some of their ideas.

Tesla's adoption of a 48-volt electrical architecture in the CyberTruck represents a significant step forward for the auto industry and aligns with the company's mission to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy and transport. By designing and

manufacturing their own components in-house, Tesla will be able to seamlessly transition to this innovative technology, which is a distinct advantage in the automotive market.

By taking advantage of the benefits offered by the 48-volt system, such as improved power delivery, handling of higher electrical loads, lower weight, and greater efficiency gains, Tesla is establishing a distinct advantage in the market. The company's "secret" accessories team is dedicated to developing products that work seamlessly with the CyberTruck systems, which not only provides a superior product to customers but also creates new revenue streams and strengthens Tesla's brand image as a leader in innovation and design.

As legacy automakers struggle to adapt to new technologies generally, Tesla's gains with the 48-volt system will serve as a reminder of the importance of vertical integration, innovation in manufacturing capabilities, and corporate structure in the seamless transition to sustainable transportation.

With its continued investment in R&D and CyberTruck as its technology beacon, Tesla is poised to continue leading the way in the electric vehicle industry, playing a key role in the world's transition to a sustainable energy future.
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The members of the CyberTruck fan site Cybertruckownersclub.com have been letting their imagination run wild over this development hoping that the ‘Secret accessories team’ would consider some of their ideas.
This feels like circular reasoning :unsure:
 

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Source: https://thedriven.io/2023/03/20/why...re-is-an-industry-game-changer/#disqus_thread

Why Tesla’s move to 48-volt electrical architecture is an industry game changer

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Tesla’s CyberTruck has been grabbing attention in the auto industry since its unveiling in 2019. The cold-rolled stainless steel exoskeleton chassis and innovative manufacturing methods have been generating increasing interest, despite multiple delays in its launch date.

The vehicle’s fan base is constantly on the lookout for latest information, and recent investor day presentations confirmed a long-discussed innovation: its 48-volt electrical architecture.

While 48v systems have been partially utilised in mild hybrid vehicles for a few years now in high draw componentry, the CyberTruck replacement of the traditional 12v system is a significant step forward for the auto industry. In traditional 12v systems, wiring and components must be larger and heavier to handle high electrical loads.

However, a 48v system can accommodate high loads more efficiently, which reduces the size and weight of wiring especially for low draw componentry. This translates to better vehicle efficiency, better handling and production efficiency.

Legacy automakers have been slow to fully adopt 48-volt technology due to their dependence on third party suppliers, who may not be equipped to manage a rapid transition to a new system voltage. In a recent Autoline Daily interview, Sandy Monroe noted that “Everybody has been talking about doing this for 30 years, but they did it.”

According to Cory Steuben, President of Monroe and Associates, manufacturers and suppliers will have to switch to 48 volts: “Either the customer will pay, or the car maker will take the profit loss of not adopting 48 volts.”

As more automakers recognise the benefits of the 48-volt system, they will be compelled to invest in the necessary technology and infrastructure to make the switch. Failure to do so could result in a loss of market share and profitability.

Tesla’s vertical integration, manufacturing capabilities, and corporate structure give them an unprecedented agility to design and produce their own highly integrated components in-house, enabling a swift transition to the 48-volt system.

The implementation of this technology in the CyberTruck provides several advantages. The 48-volt system enables more efficient power delivery and handling of higher electrical loads with smaller cabling, resulting in lower overall weight and greater efficiency gains.

“Secret” accessories team developing lighting, winches and air compressors
Moreover, Tesla’s decision to use a 48-volt system gives them a significant edge when it comes to accessories and add-ons for the CyberTruck.

As reported by Matthew Donegan-Ryan, a TSLA retail investor who spoke with Tesla executives at a recent investor day at the company’s Austin headquarters, Tesla has its own “secret” accessories team dedicated to developing products specifically for the 48-volt architecture, such as lighting, winches, and air compressors.

These products are designed to work seamlessly with the CyberTruck systems, offering customers a wide range of high-quality accessories that are tailored to the vehicle’s capabilities. With this approach, Tesla not only aims to provide a superior product to its customers but also creates new revenue streams and strengthens its brand image as a leader in innovation and design.

The members of the CyberTruck fan site Cybertruckownersclub.com have been letting their imagination run wild over this development hoping that the ‘Secret accessories team’ would consider some of their ideas.


48-volt system brings new opportunities but also risks to be addressed

While the 48-volt system offers advantages in terms of efficiency and weight reduction, it also presents new challenges in terms of complexity and safety.

These challenges could include issues such as the need for new safety features to protect against electrical shock. These challenges are likely to be behind legacy manufacturers apprehension and reticence to fully adopt 48v for parts of the vehicle a consumer would directly interact with.

Tesla’s adoption of a 48-volt electrical architecture in the CyberTruck represents a significant step forward for the auto industry and aligns with the company’s mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy and transport.

By designing and manufacturing their own components in-house, Tesla will be able to seamlessly transition to this innovative technology, giving them a distinct advantage in the market.

The 48-volt electrical architecture presents new challenges to reduce complexity and increase safety, but Tesla’s adoption of this technology in the CyberTruck marks a significant step forward for the auto industry.

With their vertical integration, manufacturing capabilities, and corporate structure, Tesla is uniquely positioned to design and produce highly integrated components in-house, enabling a swift transition to the 48-volt system.

By taking advantage of the benefits offered by the 48-volt system, such as improved power delivery, handling of higher electrical loads, lower weight, and greater efficiency gains, Tesla is establishing a distinct advantage in the market.

The company’s “secret” accessories team is dedicated to developing products that work seamlessly with the CyberTruck systems, which not only provides a superior product to customers but also creates new revenue streams and strengthens Tesla’s brand image as a leader in innovation and design.

As legacy automakers struggle to adapt to new technologies, Tesla’s gains with the 48-volt system will serve as a reminder of the importance of vertical integration, innovation in manufacturing capabilities, and corporate structure in the seamless transition to sustainable transportation.

With its continued investment in research and development, Tesla is poised to continue leading the way in the electric vehicle industry, playing a key role in the world’s transition to a sustainable energy future.
I thought it was so we could jump start ICE vehicles at 4x the speed. 😅
 

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TSLA retail investor Matthew Donegan-Ryan, spoke with Tesla executives at the investor day and disclosed on twitter

that Tesla has its own "secret" accessories team dedicated to developing products specifically for the 48-volt architecture….
*face palm*
 


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Wire weight reduction
but
Tesla and Ford EvCars EvTrucks will soon not have any wire!
Wire transmillion is slow.
Wire transmission is 1820s technology.
Homes LAN
My neighbor wired his home with LAN wire
My nephue bulit his new home with LAN wire in every room
My home has LAN wire in every room.
I my neighbor and my nephue do not and will not evey us our LAN system.

I have 1 WIFI box and WIFI everywhere in my home and my neighbors home has Wifi
We both stream movies and never have slow downs or data corruption.
48 volt may save wire guage weight and and may increase range 0.01% but try to find a 48 volt light bulb!
Soon all EvCars will not have any Cu wire so 48 volt and reduced wire guage means nothing.
With teleportation who needs a car with WIFI.
 
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Wire weight reduction
but
Tesla and Ford EvCars EvTrucks will soon not have any wire!
Wire transmillion is slow.
Wire transmission is 1820s technology.
Homes LAN
My neighbor wired his home with LAN wire
My nephue bulit his new home with LAN wire in every room
My home has LAN wire in every room.
I my neighbor and my nephue do not and will not evey us our LAN system.

I have 1 WIFI box and WIFI everywhere in my home and my neighbors home has Wifi
We both stream movies and never have slow downs or data corruption.
48 volt may save wire guage weight and and may increase range 0.01% but try to find a 48 volt light bulb!
Soon all EvCars will not have any Cu wire so 48 volt and reduced wire guage means nothing.
¿de qué estás hablando?
Nada de esto tiene sentido.
 

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Wire weight reduction
but
Tesla and Ford EvCars EvTrucks will soon not have any wire!
Wire transmillion is slow.
Wire transmission is 1820s technology.
Homes LAN
My neighbor wired his home with LAN wire
My nephue bulit his new home with LAN wire in every room
My home has LAN wire in every room.
I my neighbor and my nephue do not and will not evey us our LAN system.

I have 1 WIFI box and WIFI everywhere in my home and my neighbors home has Wifi
We both stream movies and never have slow downs or data corruption.
48 volt may save wire guage weight and and may increase range 0.01% but try to find a 48 volt light bulb!
Soon all EvCars will not have any Cu wire so 48 volt and reduced wire guage means nothing.
Um.... Are you expecting that the power is transmitted without wires? I've never been to your neighbor's or your nephew's houses but I'd bet that they are still using wires throughout the house for the transmission of electricity. The LAN might not be in use but the 120V electrical almost certainly is.

I'll let others debate the pros and cons of going wireless for communication between auto components. But so far I have seen no one (other than the message above) talking about:
Soon all EvCars will not have any Cu wire so 48 volt and reduced wire guage means nothing.
 


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With 48 volts, would it be reasonable to consider aluminum wires instead of copper? It would weigh less, cost less, and scale better due to availability. Does anyone know if this is a practical option?
 
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Same reason EU and Asia uses 240v vs 110v systems here in the US.
And Africa and half of South America and Russia…or about 80% of the world uses 240v
 
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With 48 volts, would it be reasonable to consider aluminum wires instead of copper? It would weigh less, cost less, and scale better due to availability. Does anyone know if this is a practical option?
With the unboxed construction method it’s possible that wires might not need to be physically flexible; which could aid in automated assembly.

I envisage cast/extruded “cabling” and connectors being imbedded in NVH foam or door cards etc. Flexibility isn’t required because they can be inserted into the part in a single plane.
 
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Yes all buttons and switches display and low 12 volt junk
12 volt wire
all 12 volt wire will soon be gone
all 48 volt wire will soon be gone
What is left Cu or Al high voltage power to high voltage motor?
All wire harness on EvCars will be gone
All 12 volt wiring harnesses on EvCar will soon be gone
The only thing left of wire Cu or Al
Battery power 2 Motors
Once gone those wiring harness will never comes back
Ask
Ford EV Tesla EV all 12 volt and 48 volt wiring harness will be gone.
Wait, you're really thinking that ALL wires will go away? Including those for power? Even wireless charging uses coils of wires at this point.

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