I have a ton of early Cybertruck reservations and want to partner up for a business

[bad61]

No, I don’t think I’ll be able to resell them which was plan A.

I think I’m gonna need to put them on the network. Turo etc.. whatever network is available.

Trying to line up people with similar interests.

I got early reservations, and low priced full self driving. im trying to capitalize assuming that’s appropriate in this forum. Haha.

I see the same thing for Denver colo. I have reserved a few myself. I want to talk. I think it's going to be the best vehicle made for the snow in the Rocky Mountains. 720 421 4588
I have a couple, I hope, are some game changing ideas. Im hoping every truck will easily make 300.00 or more a day.

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[bad61]

No, I don’t think I’ll be able to resell them which was plan A.

I think I’m gonna need to put them on the network. Turo etc.. whatever network is available.

Trying to line up people with similar interests.

I got early reservations, and low priced full self driving. im trying to capitalize assuming that’s appropriate in this forum. Haha.

I jumped on the 7000 fsd I hope on the first order I can get at least five to start with. I hope to take people from the airport to the mountains.

 

[Cyberman]

In some/many ways I support capitalism, but I do not support or even like hearing about greed, especially if it will hurt the chances of others getting a truck they need. I say put anyone with more than one reservation at the end of the line (no matter how long the line gets) ‘and’ prohibit reselling. That way you can still ‘capitalize’ but only after the people who want to own and use one get theirs.

That's a blanket rule that is going to be hard to enforce impartially. So just because I'm buying a Cybertruck for myself and my two nieces, I/we go to the end of the line? By the way, the end of the line may be infinite.
I get the reselling rule, but how do you enforce that? You can never resell it? You can resell after 1 year? 10 years? 15,000 miles? A million? Once you buy something, it's yours. Period.

Plus?

The Cybertruck wasn't revealed until about two years, ten months, and a couple weeks ago.

-Crissa

Seems like thirty...

 

[bad61]

Agree with all your points, they’re under my personal name, but I’ve created an LLC in the meantime.

Looked into a

Yeah exactly, that sounds shitty ha ha I may just get one of the trucks for myself and get all the other reservations refunded to me. They are refundable after all.

Kev wants you to get out of line. I to want other people to buy a different ev. I want mine first..

 

[BLUR1895]

I’ve seen this brought up a couple times on this forum and most of the responses are so negative and unfruitful, I’m assuming others like myself don’t even bother posting.

I would recommend really diving into the details of funding, expenses and risks.

Cost of cleaning, tires, managing rentals pre/post robotaxi network, charging, umbrella insurance, s-corp vs LLC advantages.

Elon did say there would fleet owners who could do well, breaking down real expenses shows anything but greed until you reach large quantities of vehicles while paying down a loan.

I’m really hoping I can cater to families or those with special needs.

Best of luck to you

 

[Newton]

its not a horible plan, if u have the time to manage all of it and of course the money...probly investor, or business forums, or somthing like that would be better. I think most of us just want our one truck

 

[Crissa]

Seems like thirty...

Oh, no, it's more than a hundred weeks so far. Not thirty.

-Crissa

PS, I think the negativity comes from the few hints of flipping we've seen. Not people who want to populate rentals or local contractor fleets or whatever. The problem is that the original poster was too vague... And what we have to guess on is also too vague. We have no idea what insurance, FSD for third-parties, or delivery timelines will be. We don't even know what sort of interest rates loans will be at!

 

[JBee]

Oh, no, it's more than a hundred weeks so far. Not thirty.

I think he meant 30 years. ?

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The title of the thread should of been "CT robo-fleet business opportunities" os something.

There's definitely some business opportunities out there but a single vehicle is maybe a little too boutique to be viable.

That's why I'm wondering just how many multiple orders there are in total, and how exactly Tesla will deal with them. The problem is some multi-orders might be already funded, whilst some single ones are not funded and might never be. Which one do you choose as a seller? A sale only happens once its paid, and once its paid ownership transfers. (which is it's own thing in itself)

That is why I was wondering about how Tesla deals with business customers. 3-5 CT's is still "reasonable" in my book and would cover most small businesses, families and farms. There's nothing unreasonable about buying more than one "per person" in your family or small business. Scalping is something else...but even there if the person can afford to pay for them and they get used, it's not wasted either. The line is fairly grey, but it could be nice if it was a bit distributed and "fairer" looking at least.

Maybe Tesla should just stack the multi-orders as well to a certain point and cycle back. For example: The first manufacturing round goes through and does everyone's first order until unit 500,000. Then they alternate between second orders from the first batch, and 500.001 first orders onwards. And then so on from 1 million etc. I think that would be pretty good.

 

[Throwcomputer]

Seems like you can't afford to buy them all and are just looking for someone to fund your dream as a "partner".

Yes I'm one of those on the negative side. Tired of pointing out all the obvious ways this will fail, every 3-6 months when someone new comes around saying hey have you thought of this great idea before?? Bad business plan. Good luck.

 

[cnemo]

No, I don’t think I’ll be able to resell them which was plan A.

I got early reservations, and low priced full self driving. im trying to capitalize assuming that’s appropriate in this forum. Haha.

How could you have “low priced full self driving?” You are not locked in to the cost of FSD when you made the reservation…. we will all be paying full price for FSD once CT goes live.

 

[charliemagpie]

I am buyng a CT for personal reasons. I may add it to the Robo network when I'm O/seas for half the year.

I did order 3, but I will probably not get the other 2.

The reason is because the Robo network in Au will likely not be running by the time I get them. Even if I had the choice, I think my deposit will serve me better if I leave the money in TSLA.. and I will not be burdened with repayments.

Leaving the $20,000 deposit in TSLA looks like this :

year	Share growth
1	50%	$ 30,000
2	50%	$ 45,000
3	50%	$ 67,500
4	30%	$ 87,750
5	30%	$ 114,075
6	30%	$ 148,298
7	20%	$ 177,957
8	20%	$ 213,548
9	20%	$ 256,258
10	20%	$ 307,510

Of course, maybe I'm dreaming, and have the share increase wrong, and perhaps Robotaxi returns will go through the roof.

Maybe its worth twice that in 10 years.

To me, On balance, I decided to watch the investment rather than start a new business.

 

[Tinker71]

I think he meant 30 years. ?

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The title of the thread should of been "CT robo-fleet business opportunities" os something.

There's definitely some business opportunities out there but a single vehicle is maybe a little too boutique to be viable.

That's why I'm wondering just how many multiple orders there are in total, and how exactly Tesla will deal with them. The problem is some multi-orders might be already funded, whilst some single ones are not funded and might never be. Which one do you choose as a seller? A sale only happens once its paid, and once its paid ownership transfers. (which is it's own thing in itself)

That is why I was wondering about how Tesla deals with business customers. 3-5 CT's is still "reasonable" in my book and would cover most small businesses, families and farms. There's nothing unreasonable about buying more than one "per person" in your family or small business. Scalping is something else...but even there if the person can afford to pay for them and they get used, it's not wasted either. The line is fairly grey, but it could be nice if it was a bit distributed and "fairer" looking at least.

Maybe Tesla should just stack the multi-orders as well to a certain point and cycle back. For example: The first manufacturing round goes through and does everyone's first order until unit 500,000. Then they alternate between second orders from the first batch, and 500.001 first orders onwards. And then so on from 1 million etc. I think that would be pretty good.

As a late comer I am sitting at about 600xxx ,but supporting Tesla and EV in general to whole time. Making some arbitrary cut off for repeat orders doesn't sit well with me.

With a pending recession I don't see scalping for resale being that much of an issue, maybe this will occur with the first $10k units, but I will be isolated from that.

Telsa will own the robotaxi application and dictate terms that people will pay. It will be very efficient. There will be enough profit for a "shepherd" for every 30-40 vehicles" to make a nice living.

I still think the cancellations will be around 40% which will include a bunch of fleet schemes. FSD level 4 is still 2 years away. Some people couldn't wait or didn't like the styling, some just won't be able to afford it as their turn comes up.

Telsa will destroy the competition on price to value, but trucks over $60k won't move that fast for long. The big 3 will probably drop their high end truck price to continue to move units. They can make a fair profit at $45k or so.

It will be interesting, but I think Tesla should just go down the list.

 

[JBee]

As a late comer I am sitting at about 600xxx ,but supporting Tesla and EV in general to whole time. Making some arbitrary cut off for repeat orders doesn't sit well with me.

With a pending recession I don't see scalping for resale being that much of an issue, maybe this will occur with the first $10k units, but I will be isolated from that.

Telsa will own the robotaxi application and dictate terms that people will pay. It will be very efficient. There will be enough profit for a "shepherd" for every 30-40 vehicles" to make a nice living.

I still think the cancellations will be around 40% which will include a bunch of fleet schemes. FSD level 4 is still 2 years away. Some people couldn't wait or didn't like the styling, some just won't be able to afford it as their turn comes up.

Telsa will destroy the competition on price to value, but trucks over $60k won't move that fast for long. The big 3 will probably drop their high end truck price to continue to move units. They can make a fair profit at $45k or so.

It will be interesting, but I think Tesla should just go down the list.

Fair enough, but technically your 600k number would move up into the 500k mark if theres 20% or so double orders? So you would get your faster, as a first order buyer, not slower, and the double orders would come later.

But I don't think there will be so many order drop outs. Maybe 10-15%, most of which are financial, or have another EV. As soon as it hits the streets people will convert those orders into sales.

 

[earthman]

How could you have “low priced full self driving?” You are not locked in to the cost of FSD when you made the reservation…. we will all be paying full price for FSD once CT goes live.

Disagree. I locked in at $7k and $10k.

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