Videos: Opening Cybertruck door and charge port cover

[PacMan28]

Everyone is mentioning how low it appears; maybe you forgot that the Cybertruck is equipped with air suspension; it can be lower or raised to fit the need

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[intimidator]

Anyone noticed how low was the truck entry. Car height compared to a truck or even an SUV. When the kid went into the CT, he did not have to climb up, and when Franz sat in the CT he sat down. Just like going into a car, not like any truck or SUV. This is my next CyberCAR.

Interesting catch.

Franz did just sit into the truck. That was no F150, pull yourself up stepping on the runner to get in, entrance.

Hmmm. I think that will be a good thing.

 

[TyPope]

Hmm... maybe I've missed something and even if it makes 100% sense to have a standard charge port, I was expecting something different because of its 1,000V architecture... Maybe a "new" port with an adapter that gives it a finished look but is removable for those times when you use the new chargers.

This video seems to me to be the first confirmation that I'll be able to use my existing charge point with my Cybertruck.

 

[Deleted member 17810]

"... I won't get the interior..." guess the guy made an agreement with Franz not to show the interior of the back... I wonder why... maybe not to show that the back monitor is still there?!?

They don't wan to show cval's midgate yet.

 

[RayzorBEV]

Just curious, does the R1T have a mode that goes high in front while simultaneously going low in the rear in order to lower the tailgate as low as possible?

I thought "kneel" referred to that, while "squatting" would refer to low in front and back. I'm just curious as to what terminology Rivian uses and whether it can go high front and low rear.

Not yet but Rivian can certainly do this via OTA software upgrade. The Cybertruck should have it though.

 

[Greshnab]

Hmm... maybe I've missed something and even if it makes 100% sense to have a standard charge port, I was expecting something different because of its 1,000V architecture... Maybe a "new" port with an adapter that gives it a finished look but is removable for those times when you use the new chargers.

This video seems to me to be the first confirmation that I'll be able to use my existing charge point with my Cybertruck.

the article on the new charging standard said it is backwards compatible and forward compatible.. so a cybertruck with it's higher capacity for charging CAN charge at any tesla charger.. and any tesla CAN charger at a semi supercharger... the charging rate is simply limited to the ability of the car or charger which ever is most limiting.

 

[HaulingAss]

That's weird, because I'm 6.1, own an f150 4x4 XLT and have NEVER had problems entering or exiting the vehicle. Sounds like you bought a truck too big for your use case. 4x4 are higher off the ground for a simple reason: to allow them to drive over more uneven terrain; a critical need for work in unpaved environments. first time ever hearing a grown man complaining about a stock height of a 4x4, but you could have easily purchased a two wheel drive, or some step rails.
Furtermore, the rollover risk for most light duty trucks is low; you'd have to be driving recklessly for that to happen. Seems as though you are manfucturing issues to justify and unneccessary feature of the CT. The light duty truck market in the U.S. is extremely mature; if truckers want or needed it, it would be standard or at least optional at certain trim levels.

I didn't say I don't need the high ground clearance, I said I'm not using the high ground clearance when scouting for firewood. That's because firewood grows in forests where the roads tend to be smooth and there are bridges over the rivers and creeks. In the alpine the "roads" can be very rugged, with washouts from snowmelt events.

It's not clear to me how you got that so wrong.

I also didn't say I had "problems" getting in and out of my truck, I'm very athletic for my age, a powder skier, mountain climber/hiker, a bike rider and a motorcyclist. Getting in and out of the truck is simply more inconvenient than it needs to be. After cutting firewood and filling the truck to the brim, I'm generally pretty tired, climbing my 215 pounds in and out of the cab multiple times just adds to the energy expended unnecessarily.

It's not clear to me how you got that so wrong.

Just because a mountain climber is extremely fit and can carry heavy loads doesn't mean they bring along a cast iron skillet because it just adds to the difficulty of the task at hand. It's an unneccessary waste of energy.

A RWD gas truck would have failed me so many times it's not even funny. Why did you think that would be most appropriate for all of my truck needs?

And I don't put steps on my truck because they would have been ripped off multiple times by now. And having steps might make it easier for someone with mobility issues to get in the cab but it doesn't fix the unneccesary energy expenditure which is caused by repeatedly having to lift your bodyweight from ground level up into the cab. Efficiency matters when you are working long days. Anyone who says it doesn't probably hasn't worked a day in their life. At least not real work.

Finally, rollover risk for high-center-of-gravity vehicles is not low! Look at the statistics! You don't have to be driving recklessly, a simple evasive manuever to avoid someone turning in front of you could do it. And it *does* do it, every day of every year in the U.S. there are rollover accidents caused by evasive maneuvers. According to the U.S. Departent of Transportation statistics:

" Annually, rollover crashes account for approximately 30 percent of passenger vehicle occupant fatalities. The proportion of fatalities that are attributable to rollovers is highest among the light trucks, 47 percent compared with 22 percent of passenger car occupant fatalities. "

I'm not sure how you got that so wrong! Have you been living under a rock? This data has been widely distributed.

Also, your presumption that if truck drivers wanted adjustable height suspension on the fly, that it would already be available on legacy trucks is just plain wrong. Of course truck drivers want this! It's just that legacy auto doesn't know how to offer it without pushing the price of a truck sky-high. Because they are really bad at manufacturing efficiently. Embarrassingly so. That's why low-tech trucks made from inexpensive materials cost an arm and a leg.

Do you really think truck owners wouldn't want the ability to push a button to enter highway mode and not only double the chances of their loved ones surviving the trip but also save them hundreds of dollars of fuel annually?

I'm not sure how you got this so wrong!

Cybertruck sales will go gangbusters and prove just how popular adjustable ride height/ground clearance really is. You can go high to get through a washout or over a downed tree or to navigate through a slide covering the road and lower it for everyday use and highway driving or for loading heavy items into the bed. Never make the mistake of thinking legacy auto actually knows their customers, they just say that to make you think it's true. But don't worry, Tesla is addressing their inadequacies and will continually eat deeper and deeper into legacy auto's annual sales numbers with each passing year.

You sure got a lot wrong in one short post. How did you do that?

 

[HaulingAss]

This is horrible placement. I can see this getting ripped off. They should have left it at the original concept location.

Don't be silly! Obviously the entire fender/mud guard can get ripped off while leaving the charge port fully functional and intact because it's mounted directly to the 3mm thick fully hardened stainless steel. And it's mounted flush with it.

The charge port door is not necessary to charge. If that get's ripped off, it will be replaced with the mudguard. Did you think Tesla engineers this kind of stuff without considering the ramifications?

I love the way they integrated the charge port with the rear fender. Don't second guess the masters as if you could make better decisions.

 

[HaulingAss]

I'm sorry, i misinterpreted your whining about entering and exiting a standard 4x4 as an issue. The truck market in America is extremely mature. The f150 is the number one selling light duty truck in America because, overall, it provides the features and utility truck buyers need and want. The f150 alone, has more trim levels than Tesla has models. That's because they have a thorough understanding of the market. Will the CT has some neat fetures, of course, but overall, it's utility and styling is not up to par. until a few years ago, the f150 was the no.1 selling vehicle in the US. That's not by accident. Ford, GM and Dodge are highly competitive because US truck buyers are demanding. When it comes to pickups, styling and utility matters; everything else is a gimmick. adjustible ride height has been in the industry for years, and NONE of those vehicles dominate the market. So your rollover death stats is irrelevant because it's driver error that are primarily responsibl efor rollovers; vehicles in the US have to pass rollover tests to get approved for production.
The CT is full of alot of nice "tech", but this is yet another example of missing the mark on what the majority of trucker buyers will actually buy. Sure the CT will sell, but to think that it will outsell US competition is a fantasy. I've owned 3 pickups, and I haven't seen any unique feature in the CT that would motivate me to switch. And I cringe at the thought of having a truck with the same color as all the others and an exterior that would ungodly expensive to repair.
The CT is nicely positioned as a trendy fashion statement, and there's always been a market for that. You can't point to a single feature thats exists in the CT that will result in loyal truck buyers to switch to a CT.....

You are still getting a lot wrong. I didn't say the Cybertruck will outsell the F-150, that would take many years to develop enough production capacity to outsell the F-150. I simply said it would eat into increasingly larger number of sales of legacy trucks each year. The problem will not be demand, it will be making enough of them to fill all the unmet demand. Right now there are tens of thousands of unsold F-150's, Dodge Rams and Chevy Silverados just sitting on lots, ready for anyone with money to stop in and buy one.

In an accident, yes, all new trucks cost a lot to repair but the Cybertruck has a huge advantage. It will be much more resistant to dents and paint chipping/scratching and rusting damage in daily use.

My brothers Dodge truck was damaged by an empty shopping cart and a sudden gust of wind! How wimpy is that! The grocery cart dented the soft steel body at the lower rear of the cab (where the cab meets the bed) when the truck wasn't even moving! This broke the paint and that started the ugly rusting. Grocery carts will just bounce off the Cybertruck!

That was an empty shopping cart, he saw it rolling towards his truck but couldn't get there in time. The repair was going to be over $3000 (see the shallow dent in the bed too), so he just left it to rust and look ugly as sin. The high cost was due to how much re-painting needed to happen to blend it all in. The Cybertruck doesn't require re-painting and knows what it means to be tough! I would be more worried about repair costs on a truck that is as soft as a Dodge and easy to damage because, in a major accident, insurance pays the bills. It's all the little stuff that will bleed the typical truck owner dry unless they do what my brother did and just left it to rust away.

I would put the Cybertruck up against any Ford, Dodge or Chevy in a hail storm, a hurricane, a dust storm, a bullet ricochet, a low speed deer impact, a kid with a slingshot, or a tree branch falling or whipping around when off-road. Heck, even a little spring loaded BB gun or paintball will damage a traditional truck, they are not strong at all! The Cybertruck has a toughness in another class compared to soft and fragile trucks from legacy OEMs and that will save on repair costs in a big way. Becuase trucks are used in tough environments.

 

[Deleted member 12457]

Hmm... maybe I've missed something and even if it makes 100% sense to have a standard charge port, I was expecting something different because of its 1,000V architecture... Maybe a "new" port with an adapter that gives it a finished look but is removable for those times when you use the new chargers.

This video seems to me to be the first confirmation that I'll be able to use my existing charge point with my Cybertruck.

I believe the charging cable and port can handle 1000V but Tesla might be splitting the CT's battery pack into two or more chargeable sections, allowing a 400V supercharger to charge each section. At least one other EV does this with a high voltage system. It's not only the port and charging cable that would need to be upgraded, it's the solid aluminum rod/cable going from the charging port to the onboard charger.

Once I found the following info, we won't necessarily be able to tell whether the CT is using 1000V or something lower.

Here's the technical spec for charging, https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/...ndard-Technical-Specification-TS-0023666.pdf"

See page 5 for basic charging schematic and page 12 for the connectors (500V and 1000V). From document (pages 12-25 of pdf): Two interfaces are shown below, a 500V configuration and 1,000V configuration. The two interfaces are mechanically interoperable (i.e. the 1,000V inlet can mechanically receive the 500V connector and the 500V inlet can receive the 1,000V connector).

 

[Greshnab]

The f150 is the number one selling light duty truck in America because, overall, it provides the features and utility truck buyers need and want.

this is an untrue statement.. and goes with the common philosophy of the auto industry.

the truth is that the f150 has the best OFFERING of services that americans want.. NOT the most features they actually want.. just the best among what auto makers offer...

while that may seem nit picky it is anything but.. no new companies have been able to get a foot hold in the auto industry in DECADES this has let to a stagnation of development where truck providers are only offering what they BELIEVE customers want..

I believe what we will find is there are a LOT more varied WANTS from truck drivers than what the auto makers realize.. and VERY few truck drivers i have known <and i have known a LOT> didn't WANT an adjustable suspension so they could lower it.. they simply didn't have a CHOICE...

steps to get in and for beds are so prevelant because so many people WANT a lower ride when at rest.. they compromise with steps because they have no choice.

One of my jobs is to build software and i have discovered we have to be VERY careful when we define what customers WANT.. because generally we only know what is offered that they order.. but have little if any understanding of what the actual customers really want.

 

[TyPope]

I believe the charging cable and port can handle 1000V but Tesla might be splitting the CT's battery pack into two or more chargeable sections, allowing a 400V supercharger to charge each section. At least one other EV does this with a high voltage system. It's not only the port and charging cable that would need to be upgraded, it's the solid aluminum rod/cable going from the charging port to the onboard charger.

Once I found the following info, we won't necessarily be able to tell whether the CT is using 1000V or something lower.

Here's the technical spec for charging, https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/HXVNIC_North_American_Charging_Standard_Technical_Specification_TS-0023666_HFTPKZ.pdf?xseo=&response-content-disposition=inline;filename="North-American-Charging-Standard-Technical-Specification-TS-0023666.pdf"

See page 5 for basic charging schematic and page 12 for the connectors (500V and 1000V). From document (pages 12-25 of pdf): Two interfaces are shown below, a 500V configuration and 1,000V configuration. The two interfaces are mechanically interoperable (i.e. the 1,000V inlet can mechanically receive the 500V connector and the 500V inlet can receive the 1,000V connector).

Thanks! Now I know!

 

[chalupa808]

The kids almost struggle to get inside!! Are the doors too small or the legroom short?!
And the sound of the doors closings, almost an old truck tailgate closing!!!

Driver's seat is in easy access mode which pushes the seat all the way back and down. As for the door closing sound it does remind me of my '95 Toyota Tacoma tailgate! Loving the nostalgia lol

 

[RVAC]

And I cringe at the thought of having a truck with the same color as all the others [...]The CT is nicely positioned as a trendy fashion statement

 

[Stuck4ger]

... IDK.. it just seems stupid to me.
Nothing a little duct tape cant solve ?

If it’s like my Model Y, if you try to tape it shut the motor will be cycling continuously trying to open it. If something accidentally opens it while driving I’m pretty sure it would auto shut.

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