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Maybe not. One will not get 48 amp through the entire trip to 100%. That last 5 % takes substantially longer to get to a true 100% charge.



This is satire. Right? If one does not understand the letters EST. well I can help. Means estimated. Not promised.



Again is not a linear process as noted above. The napkin math doesn't work out like y'all think.



Says the person that hasn't been around Tesla very long.


Tesla pulls demand levers however and whenever they want. Just like a local dealer runs promos. Yet Tesla does it for everyone. Which in turn makes headlines.

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If cheese ball car dealer ^ does a sale or inventory clearance. No one gives a rats tail. Fitting name for a traditional dealer.
It is pretty much linear with level 2 charging.
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Yet people are doing napkin math at full amps. That isn't right.

I would say drive your Chevy EV is you are so worried about how fast you can charge. Your rationale when one shows all the other cars in stable is kind of diminished.

It does matter on why 48 amps. I have the high amp chargers and love them for our S. Yet I rarely see them outside of my home. A couple times at destination chargers, as they aren't made anymore. I think it matters as people don't do the wiring correctly. If home fires happen due to this it isn't Tesla's fault, but it doesn't look good. People will up the amps and if the wall charger isn't done right it will pop breakers and lead to customer service calls. Remember most people are exactly that, stupid. They aren't on Tesla forums, and don't understand watts or amps and crap. They just want it to charge fast.

Someone also said weight. Well that is wrong. The onboard 72 amp PCS in a S weighs maybe 4 ounces more than a 48amp. Dual chargers aren't used since old days. I swapped mine in the S and they gave me the old one. It is only one item inside. Then later on they became software enabled.

Simplification of product selection along with charging network has always been Tesla's response. Same reason as why a 500 mile battery won't be seen absent a real change in tech for the Cybertruck. The current charging network keeps batteries small and a quick charge available closer and closer to home.

Yet I will say GM is working on higher amp home chargers, as in higher than one could imagine. They are thinking infrastructure improvements, and that over time peak and off peak will disappear. I have seen in two homes that are used for charging three EV's at same time. Snazzy yet I struggle to find a need with all the cars we have. I always have a car or truck that is charged, and if I came home and needed to go I would take a different one or hit a supercharger that is on the way to wherever I would go. Have one 70 miles from home in 4 different directions, and soon it will be 6 different directions. So nothing missed, and I drove 64k in 2024.
I said weight and that is not wrong. Doing away with the dual chargers like mine is fully part of the evolution. And 4 ounces is 4 ounces too, it all adds up.
 

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I said weight and that is not wrong. Doing away with the dual chargers like mine is fully part of the evolution. And 4 ounces is 4 ounces too, it all adds up.
There's a 10kW charger unit, and I think Outdoor is confusing it with the original 22kW pair.

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No one argued you can charge to full in 12 hours on 7kW.


This has nothing to do with blue/red. There's literally more energy (and water) in Georgia than Massachusetts, hence the prices are lower.

Tax burden relates to services. You get less service in Georgia, with consequently lower gdp per capita and life expectancy.


This is just not true. I don't know what you think you have, but literally a double sized charger is bigger and heavier. Usually in proportion to how much more it does. And the old ones didn't use the newer power components with are more compact and heat resistant.


A variable number which is not an additional 8 hours, which was the claim, and does not change for however big your charger is. (Hence one reason to not do it on a DC fast charger)


They sold what, 40k before having to pull this lever, so apparently it didn't need to be part of the package.

-Crissa
Yes, they did. They said even with the 32A mobile charger. I've said under 12 hours, around 11, at 48A and under 20 at 32A all along. That's from zero to 100% of course and almost no one is ever in that situation. I've included both so people who don't do the math for themselves will have an understanding of what to expect. I don't know why you're arguing with ME. ?
 

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No one argued you can charge to full in 12 hours on 7kW.

This is just not true. I don't know what you think you have, but literally a double sized charger is bigger and heavier. Usually in proportion to how much more it does. And the old ones didn't use the newer power components with are more compact and heat resistant.
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Saying something isn't true is one way of saying I am lying. Seriously go buy a used Hertz 3 and join the club and stop reading the internet and acting like an expert.

See this would be one of those times where being a Tesla owner for many many years makes a difference to someone who has never.

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This is the box or holder of a 48amp. My old one in my garage. Hangs next to my charging stuff box. The 72 amp is same size and has just a few more components. I literally held them both in my hand. Sticker was 72 amp.

The twin chargers where basically two of these yet a little smaller. That was pre 100D. The one above is what people have in a 75D a 100D. Both with 48amp. They then stopped making the 72amp. One could get it through configuring and asking engineering.

Tesla did forget to provision it on the back end so the next software update the car didn't recognize 72 amp charger. Had to drive slowly to SC to have them fix. Got a snarky response like well you wanted the 72 amp.

So stop @Crissa. You just don't know here, and think about something you don't know anything about.

This is all pretty much copied and pasted from my TMC account. So I do know what I have. That 4 Tesla's now with about a half a million miles on it.

You nothing.
 


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I said weight and that is not wrong. Doing away with the dual chargers like mine is fully part of the evolution. And 4 ounces is 4 ounces too, it all adds up.
4 ounces. Come on grow up.
 

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There's a 10kW charger unit, and I think Outdoor is confusing it with the original 22kW pair.

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Nope onboard charger. Single unit. Would you like to see 72 amp on my screen and charging at 17kW?
 

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@Crissa

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/7862567/

Just can't fix non experienced non Tesla owners. They just google and think they know everything.

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The replacement part for the lower amperage is 1014963-00-K, which is in fact more than 4 oz lighter. And if it's in the same case, that case and cooling loop won't be lighter.

Noted, you don't know what you're talking about. Bullshit Tesla drivers think they know that they don't.

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The replacement part for the lower amperage is 1014963-00-K, which is in fact more than 4 oz lighter. And if it's in the same case, that case and cooling loop won't be lighter.

Noted, you don't know what you're talking about. Bullshit Tesla drivers think they know that they don't.

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The cooling loop doesn't change. You are freaking a joke. Your model numbers don't match the S. Nice try. You literally have no idea about anything except Google. Might have to do a @HaulingAss did. Get the mods to remove you from my existence.
 

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The cooling loop doesn't change. You are freaking a joke. Your model numbers don't match the S. Nice try. You literally have no idea about anything except Google. Might have to do a @HaulingAss did. Get the mods to remove you from my existence.
Okay. You continue to misrepresent basic facts, misunderstand part numbers (the unit you're talking about the charger is a small piece of), and seem to think that replacement parts using housings would magically appear smaller or lighter.

If you actually tried looking at the charging unit on something else - you know, like purpose-built units that you'd include into a build - you'd know that bigger charger is literally bigger. It's just basic electronics.

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Where does $0.30/kWh come from? Even my super off-peak pricing is $0.414. For me, I’d break even with $2500 on my electric bill after only 4 months.

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30¢ kWh is about Tesla's average network Supercharging price last I checked.

It's also about my off-peak price.

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4 ounces. Come on grow up.
You know better. I'm sure you're just pretending you don't know how hard they struggle with weight (and parts) reduction in order to bloviate on this forum. I'm plenty grown up, actually at 75 I'm shrinking, and my Model S is VIN 5341 so I've followed the evolution from the beginning. :ROFLMAO:
 

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30¢ kWh is about Tesla's average network Supercharging price last I checked.

It's also about my off-peak price.

-Crissa

I wouldn’t say that’s average where I live. 30¢/kWh is the minimum.

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