123 kWh battery pack on Cybertruck (reported)

[cvalue13]

faith that Tesla can be more efficient with their drain on towing than anyone else so that’s positive news.

we’ll see. What they make up for in “efficient” in the mechanics (not lots to be gained there), might be made up for in the counter-intuitive aerodynamics. The lighting busts up the air in front of most any trailer, so the trailer’s added drag is minimized. CT, if it does have markedly better aerodynamics, could leave more drag at the trailer. Interested to watch/learn.

most of the trips are just from the ca valley to the coast so ~200 miles but thru the mountains. I have to fill up with the ICE once now so a supercharge wouldn’t be bad.

good news is, you’ve just got to get up the mountain, and a lot of regen on the way down will do wonders. (It’s folks going uphill 200mi that have the most trouble.)

your situation, only a 5500lb trailer, etc., and you might be good!

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[Ry7104]

we’ll see. What they make up for in “efficient” in the mechanics (not lots to be gained there), might be made up for in the counter-intuitive aerodynamics. The lighting busts up the air in front of most any trailer, so the trailer’s added drag is minimized. CT, if it does have markedly better aerodynamics, could leave more drag at the trailer. Interested to watch/learn.




good news is, you’ve just got to get up the mountain, and a lot of regen on the way down will do wonders. (It’s folks going uphill 200mi that have the most trouble.)

your situation, only a 5500lb trailer, etc., and you might be good!

Thanks for the insight! More helpful than anything I’ve seen/ read/youtubed on electric trucks and towing.

 

[cvalue13]

 

[C T Rick]

1 of my plumbing vans is a Nissan NV. With Los Angeles Traffic and stop lights, I’ve never broken 200 miles on a tank. More like 6 Mpg at 11 Mph.

yes, bring on the Cybertruck. The more I Brake, the more I recharge.

Rick

 

[almostakeeper]

I've got the 2012 2500 NVSV for a work van with the 5.6L. If I keep it under 65 I average around 16 mpg. As a work truck, there is no way that the CT will be a true work truck. That's just wishful thinking. More like a truck suv crossover. In the future Tesla could possibly put a high top van on the CT chassis. Now that would be a work truck for the trades.

 

[Carlos Thomas]

This is really disappointing as I was expecting a truck that could hit 500 miles. Towing with a 123 kWh battery isn’t going to cut it for a lengthy roadtrip.

 

[ldjessee]

I have seen 'trades' work out of a beat-up Ford Tempo (or was it the Topaz?) wagon.

New home construction, client is usually not there seeing what you drive, so no one to impress...

Of course, I have seen trades work out of an old Uhaul truck and have to keep dumping money into them just to make it to the jobsite everyday.
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I would not be surprised if someone was quite successful with any of the EV pickup trucks as their work truck. (Cybertruck, Lightning, R1T... shoot, even the HummerEV)

 

[JBee]

Really depends on the trade and the tools they need I think.

So long you don't have to pack the gear up every time, or can mount a lockbox onsite, I think you'd be hard pressed to find trades that need so much gear that it doesn't fit in the bed. Especially with some organization or sliders, or using the vault open and with a box.

Obviously, heavy machinery excluded like for siteworks or concreting etc. Using a trailer to setup is also not a biggie, provided you don't have to pull it and try to park it everyday.

But maybe a swing away, either hitch or rear tow hook mounted, rear storage/tool box that "improves aero" would be the sway to go to increase range without needing to tow? Otherwise a cap that starts at the roof apex height and that sits on a open tailgate for extra volume?

 

[ldjessee]

30+ years ago, these fancy jobsite safes were not really used... And almost all power tools had a hose or cord attached to them (either air or electrical). Also, people would be shocked at how rough their house looks under the drywall... atleast back then... but self leveling laser levels were not a thing either back then. ?‍

Now so many tools are battery powered...
But if you drive by a new home construction site, look around. I have done it a few times and the vehicles present range wide.

 

[HaulingAss]

A Model 3 Long Range is much more aero than a Cybertruck and can tow a 26' Airstream 100 miles with a 75-79 kWh battery. I would expect a battery that is more than 50% larger to do better. Those who want to tow big loads on the open road with electrics need to think more about how aero their trailer is because it makes a big difference. The only reason the 26' Airstream works as well as it does with the Model 3 Long Range is because Airstream designs with aero in mind.

That said, if your schtick is towing large and heavy and non-aerodynamic travel trailers many 100's of miles per day, and you don't want to tool along at 55-60 mph, then your obvious tow vehicle is a gas or diesel 3/4 - 1 ton rig. Sure, the Cybertruck could do it, but you're going to be stopping more and it's going to take longer.

There are trade-offs with everything. The gas or diesel rig is going to have a higher fuel bill, it will need to be serviced much more often, and you will go through brakes faster, and the life of the transmission will be shortened. There are no free lunches when you decide to do something that is so inherently inefficient. Towing large accommodations, with all the creature comforts of home, long distances has always been expensive, not only in time, but in equipment required and fuel burned. I've always felt it was a silly endeavor encouraged only by cheap gas and oil subsidized by governments around the world. If Americans had to pay the true cost of oil and gas, without subsidies, the RV scene would look a lot different than it does today.

 

[HaulingAss]

This is really disappointing as I was expecting a truck that could hit 500 miles. Towing with a 123 kWh battery isn’t going to cut it for a lengthy roadtrip.

There will almost certainly be a Cybertruck configuration with 500+ miles of range, but I don't expect it will be a first release version. Those who need more than 300+ miles (or those who think they need more) will probably have to wait another year or two. Personally, I don't tow long distances because it's not really practical. Oh, I could afford it, I just don't want to be one of those people.

So, I'll be buyng one of the first release version(s). It will still be far better than any truck available for local towing which describes over 99% of all towing I've done over tha last 40+ years. Open road towing would require the more expensive Superchargers, right when the consumption is highest. Local towing allows filling up on cheap electrons, at home.

When the 500+ mile version is offered, I'll get one of those too!

 

[cvalue13]

Word must be spreading amongst the xwitter influenzas

lots of this starting up

EDIT TO ADD:

This guy is a clown with no intellectual honesty

 

[Crissa]

I've made the same observation here.

Of course, the disturbed air in the wake has an impact as well. That's a much more complicated calculation.

This is really disappointing as I was expecting a truck that could hit 500 miles. Towing with a 123 kWh battery isn’t going to cut it for a lengthy roadtrip.

Tesla always said there were be low range variants. Why is it disappointing that they're doing what they said they would?

-Crissa

 

[CybertruckRN1127]

I want 500miles because it'll take like 3-5min to charge from 15 miles to 200 miles. Currently in my Model 3, I charge 5-7min on road trips for every 150-180 miles driven. Only takes 30 min more than an ICE car going from LA-SF-LA for me. CT at 500 mile will make the trip in 5 hours each way instead of 5.5 hours.

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