Cybertruck Highway Range Test (Dual-Motor AWD) -- Run Until Battery Empty (by Out Of Spec)

[cvalue13]

Not sure I see your point of tri motor not being cyberbeast, it seems that’s the model Tesla intended and there is likely no room for extra batteries in there the pack, so besides chemistry improvements what we have is what we get.

the reason you and others can’t see this is because people are myopically looking at the number of motors as being the core differentiator between trim levels

That is 2019 Tesla thinking, back when Tesla itself differentiated trim based on motor numbers. They don’t do that anymore, and for a good reason.

The Model Y Plaud is not the “tri motor Y”

And no longer is a CyberTruck, which happens to have three motors, by definition the “Tri Motor” cybertruck shown on the screen in 2019

Compared to the truck shown on the screen in 2019, the ONLY trim level similarity with the Cyberbeast is the 0-60 times. The Cyberbeast doesn’t have the range, it doesn’t have the payload, it doesn’t have the towing, etc.


What it does have, are identical specs to the AWD, other than speed.

And to get that speed, it has an extra motor. Just like the Model Y Plaid as an additional motor to get its speed.




Cut to today: the “Cyberbeast” trim is just the CyberTruck version of a Model Y plaid. You pay more to go faster. The range worse than an AWD (just like a Plaid), and all the other performance specs of relevance are essentially identical.

In 2019c what they called a “Tri Motor” was instead a nearly 3/4 ton, extended range, “Heavy Duty” version of a CyberTruck.

In terms of offered trim, Tesla isn’t offering that product.

They’re offering an AWD, and an AWD that does fast that they call the “Cyberbeast” - which is just a performance version of the AWD.

Contrary to your question, I find it hard to understand how others DONT understand this.

The only explanation is that their brains are stuck it totally outdated nomenclature and a wrong-headed view that the happenstance of the number of motors in the vehicle dictate the trim level of the vehicle.

it’s the other way around. The trim level of the vehicle dictates how many motors are needed.

the AWD needs another motor to go fast. That’s all

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[Woodrick]

So
In your logic if Elon shown 500 miles we should be understanding that it is like 400 miles , now 4 years forward he shows 320 miles then we understand that the range is 220 miles , correct ?

At what speed and what conditions?
Around town 320 miles is relatively easy. And I can go for years without stopping at a Supercharger, many have done just this. My vehicle is full every day and I don't worry about it.

On the road, I just traveled 2400 miles. And I know that I could go a lot further

 

[cvalue13]

So
In your logic if Elon shown 500 miles we should be understanding that it is like 400 miles , now 4 years forward he shows 320 miles then we understand that the range is 220 miles , correct ?

no

because you’re still acting like there’s any reason to compare a trim that’s not being offered today

Musk showed a 500mi “HD” CyberTruck with higher towing, etc., that isn’t being offered for sale in 2024

The framing you’re tying to push - your “logic” - is the equivalent to saying “4 years ago Jeep showed an all-electric 2door wrangler on 40” tires concept called Magneto, but when they released Magneto they called it the 4xe, but now it has 4 doors, 32” tires, and is only a hybrid motor”


Jeep never released the Magneto.

Tesla hasn’t released the ‘19 “Tri Motor”

 

[cvalue13]

you just don’t know what you’re talking about, or you’re letting your frustrations turn your ability to reason to ??

After you nap and take a Valium, it may be worth re-addressing

 

[Woodrick]

Yes, you can order one for less than $80.

I estimate that AWD orders will start being filled really soon. But that is irrelevant.

 

[Nabilriaz69]

no

because you’re still acting like there’s any reason to compare a trim that’s not being offered today

Musk showed a 500mi “HD” CyberTruck with higher towing, etc., that isn’t being offered for sale in 2024

The framing you’re tying to push - your “logic” - is the equivalent to saying “4 years ago Jeep showed an all-electric 2door wrangler on 40” tires concept called Magneto, but when they released Magneto they called it the 4xe, but now it has 4 doors, 32” tires, and is only a hybrid motor”


Jeep never released the Magneto.

Tesla hasn’t released the ‘19 “Tri Motor”

what are you implying here, I replied to that comment

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Point being: anyone who in 2019 saw 500mi on the wall behind Musk and thought “I can go 500 miles on a long distance trip and drive however I want” - they were their own problem in the first place, and that hasn’t changed any since 2019

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what I understood, 500 miles shown, you need to drive 60 mph / 70 mph on highway. So same logic 320 miles shows, one has to drive 60/70 mph to achieve that. In other words, nothing improve in range actually decrease.

 

[cvalue13]

320 miles then we understand that the range is 220 miles , correct ?

separately because separate point:

yes, anyone who sees a headline EPA combined rating and believes that means that’s the range of truck under all conditions and driving styles is … frankly … a dunce

And it’s not even about being unfamiliar with BEVs. The issue is IDENTICAL to ICE trucks.

If I see an ICE F150 with an EPA combined 22mpg, how does one interpret that?

It’s combined. So I look for city and get EPA breakouts

it gets EPA 20mpg city, hwy 26mpg

then I apply the basic knowledge that it gets 20/26/22 only under EPA conditions

so I look for example at the 26mpg highway, and say to myself “yeah, but I drive like an asshole on the highway never below 85mph, weaving through traffic, I add 2” lifts and upsize to 35” mudders, a hella lightbar, and I use the air conditioner with all the windows rolled down…

so EPA 26hwy, for me means 15mpg highway”


People keep acting like there’s some special, unique, magic to BEV range

there’s no magic

both ICE and BEV truck’s get equally fucked by speed and aerodynamics

Drive like an asshole, get asshole milage

 

[HaulingAss]

There is enough real world data coming in now to let us know the approximate range of these vehicles, and it is well under half of the 500+ that got everyone excited about the future of EV Trucks..

Wrong. There is very little scientific range test data available for either of them, especially the Tri-motor. And the most popular Dual Motor configuration exceeds the announced range by 40 miles (that's the one I configured). In fact, the most reliable data we have comes from Tesla, it just needs to be understood to represent official EPA drive cycles and adjusted appropriately.

Even the Tri-Motor surprised us with its segment leading power and acceleration, no one guessed it would be powerful enough to do a 0-60 mph in 2.6 seconds! Insanity!

The range will gradually get longer over the next several years, for those who still think they need more. Meanwhile, the continuing buildout of the Supercharger Network will continue to make those who actually need more range, increasingly more of an edge case.

 

[CyberGus]

Point being: anyone who in 2019 saw 500mi on the wall behind Musk and thought “I can go 500 miles on a long distance trip and drive however I want” - they were their own problem in the first place, and that hasn’t changed any since 2019

Not to mention “I’m losing 40% of the range!“ because “I don’t charge above 80% and stop at 20%”

 

[DumpsterFire]

you just don’t know what you’re talking about, or you’re letting your frustrations turn your ability to reason to ??

After you nap and take a Valium, it may be worth re-addressing

Don’t expect a reply from Vega anytime soon. Once you call him on his bullshit, he disappears like a fart in the wind.

Dude has added nothing but whining and complaining since he joined this MB yesterday.

 

[HaulingAss]

So 254 miles (423 kms) is not realistic as we do not typically drive our EVs from 100% to dead. Realistically, it is more in the 360-380 km range. What worries me is if I tow with my model Y, I can only get a maximum of 110 kms so realistically about 90 kms (towing a 5’ x 12’ single axle enclosed trailer). Someone please do a max rating tow test because if the cybertruck towing results are similar to my model Y, then unfortunately cybertruck towing is not a realistic option.

Fortunately, only a small minority of 1/2 ton truck owners, the most popular class of pickups, do long-distance towing. For those who do, no Cybertruck for you!

 

[HaulingAss]

I like the rest of the post, but forcing Foundation Series is far from the truth. It's not forced. For me, it represents the options that I'd probably be getting anyway. And it only seems tobe impacting those that were near the top of the list anyway.

Anyone claiming they are being "forced" to buy a Foundation Edition must have a persecution complex. No one is forcing anyone to buy any specific edition or trim level.

I'm thrilled to be taking delivery of a Foundation Edition Dual-Motor. And I can assure all the naysayers that no one is holding a knife to my throat! I'm so glad I won't ever have to drive my F-150 again!

 

[Woodrick]

Wrong. There is very little range test data available for either of them, especially the Tri-motor. And the most popular Dual Motor configuration exceeds the announced range by 40 miles (that's the one I configured).

Even the Tri-Motor surprised us with its segment leading power and acceleration, no one guessed it would be powerful enough to do a 0-60 mph in 2.6 seconds! Insanity!

The range will gradually get longer over the next several years, for those who still think they need more. Meanwhile, the continuing buildout of the Supercharger Network will continue to make those who actually need more range, increasingly more of an edge case.

I think that we may all be forgetting that Tesla has a lot of data before they set the EPA numbers. They've put a lot of miles on the mules that have been around for awhile. I dare say that they have over a hundred thousand miles logged.
All that Kyle's trip did is to basically prove what Tesla told us.

 

[HaulingAss]

You think there is HUGE demand for $100K-$120K Tesla Cybertrucks? At least a few years worth of production? Personally, I am not as bullish on Cybertruck sales at high prices as you are. I think demand for versions with the $20K markup will die out within a year. If it lasts even that long it will be a very bullish sign for Tesla's ability to sell millions at prices $20K lower!

Tesla has created a product here with insane demand, it's just a matter of how much people can actually afford! But your insanely bullish projections seem unrealistic. As production volume ramps, prices will have to come down.

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