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This is kinda how i feel moving from my MYP to the CT AWD. But the beast is out of the question for me lol
So looking at my wife's model Y boost option takes it from 4.8 to 4.2 or 6 tenths of a second. If the same were true for the AWD CT you could be looking at 3. 5 0 to 60? That is right there with
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Faster acceleration in a truck is really dumb. Dual motor is plenty of speed. It's $20k premium to brag that you have a CB because it is otherwise the exact same truck except for shorter range. I don't think there is any logical reason to buy the CB.
Not sure it is possible for faster acceleration to be dumb. When I saw it in the showroom it looked sleek like a car not bulky. It seemed to say to me more power. Not looking to brag to anyone about anything either seems you may have some emotions to work out. Visibility is the one thing I don't like about it. I would prefer to blend in so hoping they offer some cloaking tech to make it look like a chevette
 

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The only difference right now, at a car show is the dog logo lol. People cant see your acceleration when you're sitting in a parking lot.
They can sense my midlife crisis and the crink in my neck from doing 0-60 in 2.6 seconds..
 
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They can sense my midlife crisis and the crink in my neck from doing 0-60 in 2.6 seconds..
? at least you’re not screaming it like the guy in the red corvette convertible with the comb over and overly-applied after shave
 

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The beast has 50% more acceleration than the AWD. You really do feel that difference on your body and is certainly worth it for even just that alone I think.
+1. I ordered CB FS for this exact reason. I drive Porsche, which I need to sell now. When I made the switch from BMW to Porsche four years ago, I was blown away on how much difference the acceleration makes even during regular commute. It's not just 0 to 60 launch. It's the thrilling acceleration you feel every time you drive. I also ride a Ducati. When you get the same motorcycle experience inside the safety of a car, it's a whole different world. It'll definitely put a smile on your face every time you drive. It's hard to explain in words. If you have driven a super fast car or motorcycle, then you know what I'm talking about.

911 Turbo S was my dream car. Now it's CB. I pay 20K more for 200K level acceleration. Cornering won't be as good as 911 Turbo, but let's cut some slack, it's a TRUCK!

IMO, if you are into driving experience, then 20K is totally worth the money. My only concern with CB is the range. We just have to suck it up for being the early adopters.

It doesn't matter if the vehicle is a motorcycle, truck, sports car, fighter jet, or virtually any vehicle. When you drive something that goes very fast, the experience is quite different EVERY TIME you drive it. That's why they are expensive. The question is whether you are someone who enjoys this type of experience or doesn't care much about driving experience.
 
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Love the red. And the car ain’t bad either. Haha. But, seriously, if it makes you happy, enjoy it man.
 

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Not sure it is possible for faster acceleration to be dumb. When I saw it in the showroom it looked sleek like a car not bulky. It seemed to say to me more power. Not looking to brag to anyone about anything either seems you may have some emotions to work out. Visibility is the one thing I don't like about it. I would prefer to blend in so hoping they offer some cloaking tech to make it look like a chevette
That I don't want to brag about something means I have emotions to work out? That has to be one of the most idiotic things I've ever read. I don't need to flex on anyone or brag to feel validated. I'd suggest the exact opposite as would most psychiatrists.

Stats are great, fast acceleration in a sports car meant for an awesome curvy road or a track is great to a point. My weekend car is a manual and does 0-60 in around 4.2 seconds. I don't want anything faster because it isn't usable speed on the road. And that's in a sports car... Wanting acceleration faster than that in a pickup truck is pointless and dumb. Tesla should have focused on longer range rather than acceleration for the beast IMO.
 

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Tesla should have focused on longer range rather than acceleration for the beast IMO.
Well, with all due respect, I would argue Tesla is simply constrained or still needing to work within the constraints of conventional physics and chemistry. They will invariably maximize the potential of design they can. It’s easier to create something that digests energy than it is to create something that can easily provide and or store energy needed for massive energy use. The fact that in a relatively short time, Tesla designed and Mass produced its own batteries indicate that this issue is being taken seriously on a level most can’t appreciate. Ask yourself these questions before being hypercritical…… can I bring anything to the table that solves the dilemma I am irritated by? Does it maximize other parameters as well as it solves for one ?
 

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That I don't want to brag about something means I have emotions to work out? That has to be one of the most idiotic things I've ever read. I don't need to flex on anyone or brag to feel validated. I'd suggest the exact opposite as would most psychiatrists.

Stats are great, fast acceleration in a sports car meant for an awesome curvy road or a track is great to a point. My weekend car is a manual and does 0-60 in around 4.2 seconds. I don't want anything faster because it isn't usable speed on the road. And that's in a sports car... Wanting acceleration faster than that in a pickup truck is pointless and dumb. Tesla should have focused on longer range rather than acceleration for the beast IMO.
Still not following on acceleration being pointless and dumb part but agree on the bragging. I can't speak for what psychiatrists would suggest tho. The emotions are about how negative you are towards going fast in a truck, to each his own. Your are obviously not a raptor or lightening fan either.

I'm only getting what I want for myself. My main concern in this is the attention it's going to get. I'd prefer if it was a sleeper. If I could get the beast foundation series with zero badging I would. Prefer it to look as plain as possible like single motor.

I am grateful for the vault tho. It will keep my mulch from flying out when I floor it out of the supply store. ?
 

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Here’s how I think it’s gonna play out. Production numbers are gonna be very low for the next year. The orders from FS will keep up with production without an issue.

If foundation orders slow down which could take a long time then they will roll back to the standard pricing and start the order process up again. By this time the beast will be at least a year out from delivery for these guys. They may have wished they just went for the beast as after they add all the options it may have only saved them a couple of G’s to wait. This will make the FS beast a pretty limited edition model which def helps in resale and because there are not many of them they will hold value or make money. If you decided to sell after the first year.

My reason for the beast was a little different. Yes the fast 0-60 is def in the top 3. That equates not just to a rocket from a launch but much safer over taking with and without my trailer. But my main reason was I didn’t want my truck until around summer time. Mainly because I was hoping there would be a bunch of trucks out there being used and tested. Sandy Munro’s tear down will likely decide if I take the truck or not so I was hoping he would have a truck and the tear down completed by the summer. Ordering on day 1 instead of day 0 was critical to that 6month window too. I was guessing around 70k trucks might be on the road by summer but it’s now likely looking like 20-30k trucks but that’s enough for getting an idea of how these things will work in the real world. The millage I’m seeing are def not good but for me I could make it work. The panel gap issue is clearly still an issue and it shouldn’t be with volume this low. I would have expected perfection out of the factory on the first couple of thousand trucks. Musk knows the media will run with every negative story and that won’t be good.
But if reviews turn out good, orders don’t get delayed to far over 6months and the tear down is good then I’m staying with the beast and if for any reason I don’t like it I will let it go after the first year. I’m really interested in what this Ford T3 is gonna be as they will have to come out with something ground breaking.
 
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+1. I ordered CB FS for this exact reason. I drive Porsche, which I need to sell now. When I made the switch from BMW to Porsche four years ago, I was blown away on how much difference the acceleration makes even during regular commute. It's not just 0 to 60 launch. It's the thrilling acceleration you feel every time you drive. I also ride a Ducati. When you get the same motorcycle experience inside the safety of a car, it's a whole different world. It'll definitely put a smile on your face every time you drive. It's hard to explain in words. If you have driven a super fast car or motorcycle, then you know what I'm talking about.

911 Turbo S was my dream car. Now it's CB. I pay 20K more for 200K level acceleration. Cornering won't be as good as 911 Turbo, but let's cut some slack, it's a TRUCK!

IMO, if you are into driving experience, then 20K is totally worth the money. My only concern with CB is the range. We just have to suck it up for being the early adopters.

It doesn't matter if the vehicle is a motorcycle, truck, sports car, fighter jet, or virtually any vehicle. When you drive something that goes very fast, the experience is quite different EVERY TIME you drive it. That's why they are expensive. The question is whether you are someone who enjoys this type of experience or doesn't care much about driving experience.
So if someone doesn’t buy the CB they don’t care about their driving experience? ? Humor me for a second. Just because you’ve been using crack for years and can tolerate a lot more, doesn’t mean those who haven’t won’t enjoy their smaller rock lol. Everything is relative. Some people actually can and do enjoy the driving experience without needing to go .6 seconds faster. I love driving my M3 and MY neither of which are performance models. For those that can tell the difference, I’m glad there’s the CB option but it doesn’t mean the rest of us are missing out on something. Again, it’s all relative.
 
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No way I'll own what will be/is known to be the "slow one" of a Cybertruck. 4.1 to 60 is slower than a TRX and a Raptor R. I own a TRX and no way I'm downgrading and letting the two dinosaurs of a truck beat the future... You can't own a Cybertruck and let those two fossils out accelerate you.

You either go beast or nothing. The AWD versions are too slow.
 

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No way I'll own what will be/is known to be the "slow one" of a Cybertruck. 4.1 to 60 is slower than a TRX and a Raptor R. I own a TRX and no way I'm downgrading and letting the two dinosaurs of a truck beat the future... You can't own a Cybertruck and let those two fossils out accelerate you.

You either go beast or nothing. The AWD versions are too slow.
That’s a good point. I know a few guys with the raptor r and TRX and they think they are the fastest vehicles on the planet ? it will at least get them thinking twice about going in about how fast their trucks are. Nothing wrong with a AWD but the cyber beast puts them in their place. My buddy has a Rivian and every time I see him he says faster than the cyber truck. He’s not a racer at all but he found that little joke hilarious until I sent him the race between them ? he has not said a thing about it being faster since then ?
 

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Aside from the insane 0-60 time and quarter mile time, the delay in getting it is also a plus for me. Every day they are fixing things on the assembly line. There is no chance Tesla will want their flagship product (which is the Cyberbeast) to have any major issues. I thought it would be cool to have one earlier with the AWD version but every month that goes by they are making major improvements in manufacturing and quality control. I also would regret not having that performance. I would however like to know if that off-road light bar is going to have an impact on range. Not a huge fan of how it looks but that’s subjective.
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