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Anyone able to play music from UBSC in center console?

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I had a similar thumb drive that got VERY hot when in use, like painful-to-the-touch hot. It didn't last long, and I went back to the Tesla-supplied thumb drive.

Glad yours is working for you.
This one definitely warms up too, but it has been working for months so perhaps it will be alright :D
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There is a very old thread on this establishing that only the glovebox USBA port allows data, and how to deal with that. My guess is that the USBC ports are hardware capable of it, but Tesla has probably blocked them out of security concerns. If that's true the situation may change in the future.

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After looking through the schematics, I see no data connection for the console USB ports. Rears definitely don't have 3.0 data lines. Front USB-C might just be unlisted like the glove box one, but I'm thinking the MCU only has one port.
 

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After looking through the schematics, I see no data connection for the console USB ports. Rears definitely don't have 3.0 data lines. Front USB-C might just be unlisted like the glove box one, but I'm thinking the MCU only has one port.
What I'd really like to know is why?
 

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What I'd really like to know is why?
Why it only has one port? Because you can make a multi portion drive (or possibly use a hub) and it's simpler to program if there is only one source for data.
 


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Why it only has one port? Because you can make a multi portion drive (or possibly use a hub) and it's simpler to program if there is only one source for data.
I don't think making it a little easier to program is good reason for limiting and creating inconvenience for your customers, especially, with all of Tesla's software complexity, including a bunch of media tomfoolery and the fact that console USB ports already do this for other models makes that highly unlikely. There must be something more serious involved.
 

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I don't think making it a little easier to program is good reason for limiting and creating inconvenience for your customers, especially, with all of Tesla's software complexity, including a bunch of media tomfoolery and the fact that console USB ports already do this for other models makes that highly unlikely. There must be something more serious involved.
Simpler chips with only one port, less to go wrong. Zero reason to have back seat USB-C doing anything but charging (security risk with something the driver can't see happening, given that USB can be abused to give hacker level access), and the front console USB-C port being anything other than power could cause confusion, since while a USB-C connector can support USB 2.0 without supporting USB 3.x, it usually supports the latter (and not all devices with USB-C connectors necessarily support USB 2.0). It's clearly stated that whatever hooks to the glovebox port must be USB 2.0 compatible - which isn't necessarily a performance problem even using both camera recording and audio playback at the same time. And from what I've seen on other OS's, even if the controller is one chip, if it supports both USB 2.0 and USB 3.x, it looks like two controllers to the OS.

What combination of those, or were they just cheap? Doubtless cheap figured in, but probably not just by itself, since the difference in cost for wires and chips isn't necessarily that much.

It is what it is. You can do everything with the one data port. Whether that's what you WANT or not, world's littlest violin playing a sad song just for you.

Tesla should fix the manual. They should also document the best way to partition and lay out everything for a single drive in the glovebox to do it all. But if you're a technophobe, what the heck are you doing driving a Tesla anyway? :)
 

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Simpler chips with only one port, less to go wrong. Zero reason to have back seat USB-C doing anything but charging (security risk with something the driver can't see happening, given that USB can be abused to give hacker level access), and the front console USB-C port being anything other than power could cause confusion, since while a USB-C connector can support USB 2.0 without supporting USB 3.x, it usually supports the latter (and not all devices with USB-C connectors necessarily support USB 2.0). It's clearly stated that whatever hooks to the glovebox port must be USB 2.0 compatible - which isn't necessarily a performance problem even using both camera recording and audio playback at the same time. And from what I've seen on other OS's, even if the controller is one chip, if it supports both USB 2.0 and USB 3.x, it looks like two controllers to the OS.

What combination of those, or were they just cheap? Doubtless cheap figured in, but probably not just by itself, since the difference in cost for wires and chips isn't necessarily that much.

It is what it is. You can do everything with the one data port. Whether that's what you WANT or not, world's littlest violin playing a sad song just for you.

Tesla should fix the manual. They should also document the best way to partition and lay out everything for a single drive in the glovebox to do it all. But if you're a technophobe, what the heck are you doing driving a Tesla anyway? :)
No, you can't do everything easily with one port. It is a major pain plugging and unplugging drives in the glovebox for different purposes. If you want to change any data on that single drive you have take it out of truck and then it's not available for its other purposes. While you are messing with for one use, many just frivolous, you risk trashing it for everything.

It is very inconvenient to access. You can't see what you are plugging into back there. You certainly can't do it while driving even if you are able to contort to reach it from the driver's seat. This is the first Tesla ever to have just one USB data port, and to not have it on the console.
 

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No sense connecting/disconnecting the drive except at home, parked, with sentry mode off. If you're fooling with stuff while you're driving, that's just wrong, even with FSD. And with the above precautions (plus a backup) you're unlikely to lose data.

I wouldn't do firmware updates except at home, either, just in case something goes wrong.

Basic precautions with any computer, which is really what any Tesla is, a computer with wheels.

Mine isn't a thumb drive, it's a small Samsung 2TB SSD with a short cable (two actually, one USB-C to USB-C, one USB-C to USB-A, which is obviously what I use), just long enough that the small drive can sit somewhere out of the way in the glovebox. If I cared to, I could velcro it to the back of the glovebox, I suppose. It's less awkward than a thumb drive, really.

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Portable-Photographers-MU-PE2T0R-AM/dp/B09VLJ7VBM/

I got that before the truck arrived, having read that someone was well satisfied with it in their CT. I gather that it's fast and robust. So far, so good.

Anyway, if what the other poster said is correct, that it doesn't look like the inside console port is connected for data, then no firmware update will fix that. Find a way to live with it, or enjoy complaining about something you CAN work around.

A non-problem (barring minor inconvenience) simply requires a documentation fix, not a tantrum.
 

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No sense connecting/disconnecting the drive except at home, parked, with sentry mode off. If you're fooling with stuff while you're driving, that's just wrong, even with FSD. And with the above precautions (plus a backup) you're unlikely to lose data.

I wouldn't do firmware updates except at home, either, just in case something goes wrong.

Basic precautions with any computer, which is really what any Tesla is, a computer with wheels.

Mine isn't a thumb drive, it's a small Samsung 2TB SSD with a short cable (two actually, one USB-C to USB-C, one USB-C to USB-A, which is obviously what I use), just long enough that the small drive can sit somewhere out of the way in the glovebox. If I cared to, I could velcro it to the back of the glovebox, I suppose. It's less awkward than a thumb drive, really.

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Portable-Photographers-MU-PE2T0R-AM/dp/B09VLJ7VBM/

I got that before the truck arrived, having read that someone was well satisfied with it in their CT. I gather that it's fast and robust. So far, so good.

Anyway, if what the other poster said is correct, that it doesn't look like the inside console port is connected for data, then no firmware update will fix that. Find a way to live with it, or enjoy complaining about something you CAN work around.

A non-problem (barring minor inconvenience) simply requires a documentation fix, not a tantrum.
It is a problem. It is also a regressive design in Tesla's most advanced technology vehicle. Sad.
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