FSD 14 release next month will start nagging much less - says Musk

[SCTesla]

Again, Toyota doesn't agree that AdvancedDrive is near FSD...hence why they are spending a ton of money to make a FSD-like product.

If you don't understand why there's more strict monitoring on a system that can do all driving tasks vs. a system that is a highway only system...I don't know how to make it more clear.

There's a lot of room for criticism with Tesla, but ADAS isn't a place where they are lacking...sure maybe they should have a lower end version of AP on the CT like AdvancedDrive, but they are focused on FSD.

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[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

I don't get a lot of nag.

Although the other day I was eating an ice cream sunday and the truck said monitoring was not available because "hands not ready to take over," which was 100% true. I had to keep touching the steering wheel instead. Honestly, I was impressed how it correctly read the situation.

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

I wasn't complaining. It was right. Even though I was paying attention to the road I was not ready to take over.

 

[REM]

I wasn't complaining. It was right. Even though I was paying attention to the road I was not ready to take over.

Glad that I muted that clown a while back; he's an outright liar. I've tested the latest and greatest driver assistance from Toyota, and it's a joke. Completely unusable if you don't keep your hands firmly on the steering wheel the entire drive.

 

[Fugue]

Glad that I muted that clown a while back; he's an outright liar. I've tested the latest and greatest driver assistance from Toyota, and it's a joke. Completely unusable if you don't keep your hands firmly on the steering wheel the entire drive.

I did the same to a few accounts on here. Saves me some scrolling.

 

[SCTesla]

You've provided 0 substance. Your opinion is that Highway lane assist with less nags is more useful...that's an opinion that you can have, but it's not more advanced, more capable, and not even the same thing.

No one has a FSD like product available in the US. There are some in China, but none in the US. it's because it's massively expensive.

This is a prime example of what i mean by capabilities. This is from Toyota's website:

However, Advanced Drive has limitations and should not be considered an "obstacle-dodging" system in a fully autonomous sense.

Basically a disclaimer that it won't avoid obstacles and you are required to do that.

It's fine for a basic highway ADAS, I'm not denying that. It's Autopilot, but has hard defined areas that it can operate.

 

[cadamo001]

Just did a 1300 mile round trip with my Cyberbeast and outside of the very few times I had something in my hands, (eating or handling the phone), the truck never nags me. I don't understand what you are talking about when you say it's naggy. Unless I am covering my eyes or handling my phone, the system works naglessly
Maybe there is something wrong with your trucK if yours is nagging you?

 

[cadamo001]

I had a Rivian. That sucked. Any system that isn't Tesla SUCKS. I don't want a system that is better in certain cases on certain roads at certain times. With FSD, I know what I get and nothing else can do what it does. And I don't consider what FSD nags me for to be too much or too often. My opinion. Which is just like yours. Just different.

 

[lee810]

As someone who owns both a CyberTruck FS and a Toyota Prius Prime with ADAS, I can say for certain that the Toyota is YEARS behind Tesla when it comes to FSD. All the Toyota can do is adaptive cruise control with lane assist. That is not FSD. Not even close. It won't stop at stop signs, make turns, or do navigation of any kind on its own. It constantly nags whenever I grab the steering wheel at the 12 o'clock position because it blocks the eye sensor which is poorly positioned in my opinion.

The Toyota lane assist gets very undecided when an extra turning lane appears causing it to dither about which lane it should take. It's actually quite frightening. So it isn't superior at maintaining lane control.

EctoSlymer seems to think that the CT doesn't use the driver's eyes as its primary means to detect driver inattentiveness, but that is exactly what it does to see if you're paying attention. Tesla no longer continually feels for the driver's hands on the wheel like it did in the early days of FSD.
If you look away long enough, it will flash the display blue to get you to look ahead and may ask you to tug on the steering wheel, but that won't happen if you look straight ahead and don't get distracted looking elsewhere for too long. The inattentiveness interval has been getting longer lately. The initial FSD software would nag very quickly when you looked away, but now the interval is much longer.

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