Possibly out of range and stuck?

[hemiarch]

So for those of you who recommended ABRP, can you please educate me? Why would you want to do this over the Tesla navigation? To incorporate non-Tesla charging stations? I essentially never go to non-Tesla chargers due to free SC but still curious. Supposedly this is a feature that was also added to our cars native navigation with an update not too long ago (non-Tesla chargers) but I’ve never seen a non-Tesla charger pop up on there.
Does ABRP tell you what’s currently available at Tesla and non-Tesla chargers in real time? Does it estimate what sort of charging speed our trucks will see at chargers fairly accurately?

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[TeslaKen]

So for those of you who recommended ABRP, can you please educate me? Why would you want to do this over the Tesla navigation? To incorporate non-Tesla charging stations? I essentially never go to non-Tesla chargers due to free SC but still curious. Supposedly this is a feature that was also added to our cars native navigation with an update not too long ago (non-Tesla chargers) but I’ve never seen a non-Tesla charger pop up on there.
Does ABRP tell you what’s currently available at Tesla and non-Tesla chargers in real time? Does it estimate what sort of charging speed our trucks will see at chargers fairly accurately?

ABRP will have other chargers listed on it, as will apps like PlugShare. ABRP can potentially more accurately depict your consumption rates especially if you subscribe and share info about your vehicle. In short, the app could help, but as others have said, with the built in navigation you should not find yourself in such a situation. Others have also wisely advised getting the mobile charger out and plugging in to any outdoor outlet while you sleep at the hotel to get some additional charge, it is better than nothing. It appears a few people have already looked up his location and advised chargers near him that he could use. I am assuming he left home with his mobile charger and his J1772 adapter.

 

[hemiarch]

ABRP will have other chargers listed on it, as will apps like PlugShare. ABRP can potentially more accurately depict your consumption rates especially if you subscribe and share info about your vehicle. In short, the app could help, but as others have said, with the built in navigation you should not find yourself in such a situation. Others have also wisely advised getting the mobile charger out and plugging in to any outdoor outlet while you sleep at the hotel to get some additional charge, it is better than nothing. It appears a few people have already looked up his location and advised chargers near him that he could use. I am assuming he left home with his mobile charger and his J1772 adapter.

Thank you. I’ve used PlugShare ever since my bolt days. It’s where I go in a pinch to find alternatives to Tesla which genuinely hasn’t happened to me in probably 4 years. Even then it was in a really remote area and I accidentally left camp mode on overnight. Was just wondering if there is now a” better” alternative (no pun intended).
Meh…so far Tesla has not failed me on this. I use FSD the vast majority of the time so I hardly go anywhere without navigating there. Even the corner store. Probably not worth my time learning yet another app.
One more dumb question from a Tesla suoercharger basically exclusive user.
Is the A2Z adapter still the state of the art in terms of what to carry in the event of having to use some other charger in the CT? I remember this was the case for a while. Is there something better now? More cost effective?
This:
https://a.co/d/22bZFuU

 

[dalton108]

OP definitely let us know how you make out.

 

[TeslaKen]

Thank you. I’ve used PlugShare ever since my bolt days. It’s where I go in a pinch to find alternatives to Tesla which genuinely hasn’t happened to me in probably 4 years. Even then it was in a really remote area and I accidentally left camp mode on overnight. Was just wondering if there is now a” better” alternative (no pun intended).
Meh…so far Tesla has not failed me on this. I use FSD the vast majority of the time so I hardly go anywhere without navigating there. Even the corner store. Probably not worth my time learning yet another app.
One more dumb question from a Tesla suoercharger basically exclusive user.
Is the A2Z adapter still the state of the art in terms of what to carry in the event of having to use some other charger in the CT? I remember this was the case for a while. Is there something better now? More cost effective?
This:
https://a.co/d/22bZFuU

If you need hi speed charging then something like the A2Z adapter will let you charge at Electrify America or other CCS charging station, I keep a similar adapter in my smugglers bay but so far have never needed it. The J1772 is just fine for charging overnight or for a couple of hours to get the additional range he might need to get a supercharger if he is truly currently out of range. There are lots of places you can charge at free with that adapter, my local grocery store, Kohl's stores, etc.

 

[hemiarch]

If you need hi speed charging then something like the A2Z adapter will let you charge at Electrify America or other CCS charging station, I keep a similar adapter in my smugglers bay but so far have never needed it. The J1772 is just fine for charging overnight or for a couple of hours to get the additional range he might need to get a supercharger if he is truly currently out of range. There are lots of places you can charge at free with that adapter, my local grocery store, Kohl's stores, etc.

Think I want to keep one of those too. There are now adapters for less than half the price of the A2Z that claim to be CT compatible which I think didn’t used to be the case.
Are these options just as good?
https://a.co/d/4D5x0OE

 

[TeslaKen]

I haven't tried that particular one, in fact the one I bought I only tried one time just after I bought it to see if it worked and it did, then I put it back in its case and into the smugglers bay and forgot about it. I highly doubt I ever find myself too far from a supercharger but close enough to a CCS charger, but again, carry it as insurance I suppose just in case...

 

[mcvaughan]

Thx all. I was able to use mobile charger overnight to add some range. I should e able to make it to Las Cruces with 4%.

 

[hemiarch]

Thx all. I was able to use mobile charger overnight to add some range. I should e able to make it to Las Cruces with 4%.

Strong work. If not, find an RV campground

 

[Korben Dallas]

We used to occa

If you need hi speed charging then something like the A2Z adapter will let you charge at Electrify America or other CCS charging station, I keep a similar adapter in my smugglers bay but so far have never needed it. The J1772 is just fine for charging overnight or for a couple of hours to get the additional range he might need to get a supercharger if he is truly currently out of range. There are lots of places you can charge at free with that adapter, my local grocery store, Kohl's stores, etc.

We used to occasionally charge at the free chargers located at the malls in Silverdale (when having lunch at Silver City), & Olympia, WA. Then one day I tried every charger at the Olympia mall and the Cybertruck wouldn't connect. I tried again a week later and then noticed that Shell Corporation appears to have purchased them (now both locations) & so there’s now a charging fee & a Shell account is also required.

So if your Tesla fails to connect at a free charging station check the message board to see if Shell, or someone else now owns it.

 

[mcvaughan]

Much appreciate everyone’s responses. I definitely have some lessons learned on my first extended road trip.

 

[Beetlebug62]

So for those of you who recommended ABRP, can you please educate me? Why would you want to do this over the Tesla navigation? To incorporate non-Tesla charging stations? I essentially never go to non-Tesla chargers due to free SC but still curious. Supposedly this is a feature that was also added to our cars native navigation with an update not too long ago (non-Tesla chargers) but I’ve never seen a non-Tesla charger pop up on there.
Does ABRP tell you what’s currently available at Tesla and non-Tesla chargers in real time? Does it estimate what sort of charging speed our trucks will see at chargers fairly accurately?

Of course use Tesla's nav. It's good, convenient and always improving. However, its predictions can be conservative, and ABRP gives you more granular control, so in this case, it's indicating that if you keep your speed under 55mph, you can make it to Las Cruces with 5%.

Plus, it's free for the first 14 days, and only $5/mo. It'll log all your trip data that you can download later. I did it for a trip that took less than 14days, but kept it for another month, so I could pay the developer $5. It was worth it.

 

[hemiarch]

Of course use Tesla's nav. It's good, convenient and always improving. However, its predictions can be conservative, and ABRP gives you more granular control, so in this case, it's indicating that if you keep your speed under 55mph, you can make it to Las Cruces with 5%.

Plus, it's free for the first 14 days, and only $5/mo. It'll log all your trip data that you can download later. I did it for a trip that took less than 14days, but kept it for another month, so I could pay the developer $5. It was worth it.

So how does it know how much energy was used? Do you manually enter a percentage when you get to the charger and when you leave?

 

[Beetlebug62]

So how does it know how much energy was used? Do you manually enter a percentage when you get to the charger and when you leave?

You give it your Tesla sign-in credentials like any other app, like Tessie, etc. It then can pull live data from the Tesla.

 

[dalton108]

So how does it know how much energy was used? Do you manually enter a percentage when you get to the charger and when you leave?

API. Gets the data from your vehicle, and you can customize it beyond that. As implied by others (I don’t mind saying it explicitly), those praising the OEM software have clearly never used ABRP.

Tesla is good and reliable in the car. ABRP was trying to figure this shit out before Tesla ever knew what it was missing. Developed by an early Tesla owner and recently purchased by Rivian.

Most of the advanced features that Tesla just added to navigation (set arrival charge percentage, etc) were innovated by ABRP years ago. Also, until recently if you wanted to do mapping and planning with your car you had to do it from your car. You’ve always been able to do it on your phone or PC with ABRP.

If you’re about to get stranded and you’re sitting in the hotel or at dinner trying to figure this shit out, I would be using ABRP. PERIOD. If there is a publicly accessible solution ABRP is going to find it for you I would not trust Tesla’s Navigation for that. In network? Sure you’d be crazy to look at anything else. This guy’s situation?

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So, when I previously would say even ABRP can’t find me a viable route to Ely Nevada and back what that means is “the state of the art tool for this type of thing can’t do it, so it can’t be done.”

* With publicly available charging solutions.

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