Range getting better and better

[Galvatron]

All-time best!

Same commute

, garage to work to garage

FSD
Temp in the 80's

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[BrockN]

All-time best!

Same commute

, garage to work to garage

FSD
Temp in the 80's

Wow, I can only dream of that sort of efficiency!

You must have gotten one of those crazy mpg experimental carburetors that was mistakenly left on the engine at the factory... I haven't heard about that happening since the '70s...

 

[Galvatron]

Still dropping... This is from today, post 2025.26.8 SW update.

 

[TexasRaider]

I’m very surprised some of you are posting Wh/mi better than some M3/MY/MS… interesting.

 

[Loudness]

The efficiency has been way better than I expected, but most of my driving is suburban on surface streets. Even with a mix of highway, it's still excellent.

 

[TyPope]

The average speed of 27mph really helps with the efficiency. I have a similar type of commute averaging just 21.57 mph. My low average speed comes from 5 miles of 45mph road and 27 miles of 55 mph highway, and 10 or so miles of freaking traffic.

My commute is 5 miles at 45mph and 60-70mph on most of the rest minus a few stops and traffic slowdowns.

 

[henchman24]

Don't the wheel covers offer a pretty surprising range bump?

I have the core wheels with aftermarket ATs. I have a trip I make every couple weeks that is about 450mi. The core wheel covers vs open wheel with a center cap is about 6% more efficient at ~80-85mph with what I've experienced. Enough where I keep the core covers on now.

In my experience two things matter most with CT efficiency. Speed and temperature. With speed, simply keeping below 70 does a ton. Simply physics there, but the truck is remarkably efficient at lower speeds. With temps... if you're consistently above ~55-60, the truck is a lot more efficient. It doesn't tend to care about hotter temps, but low temps really hurt efficiency. The truck will work to keep the battery warmer as the chemistry used doesn't like the cold... as a tip, when below ~50 and certainly as you get into the 20s and 30s, chill mode helps efficiency quite a bit. It allows the pack to stay a bit colder.

 

[sefar]

That's awesome! I live in a hilly area and my average intown range (driving in Chill mode, winter tire package, tonneau closed) is about 450 wh/mile. I can achieve your numbers if I go mostly downhill though haha.

My towing numbers hover between 900-1000 wh/mile towing ~4500 pounds

these trucks have a Chill mode? Huh.

I've been in Beast mode since I got my CB. Or as I call it, Smilemode.

 

[HaulingAss]

That's awesome! I live in a hilly area and my average intown range (driving in Chill mode, winter tire package, tonneau closed) is about 450 wh/mile. I can achieve your numbers if I go mostly downhill though haha.

I'm curious why you have the winter tire package on at the end of summer? They really suck on bare pavement compared to the OEM All-Terrains. I took mine off a week after all the snow melted up high.

 

[EXPTREVER]

I'm curious why you have the winter tire package on at the end of summer? They really suck on bare pavement compared to the OEM All-Terrains. I took mine off a week after all the snow melted up high.

I like the look. Plus the cost and space to maintain two sets of tires far exceeds the 10% range I probably use for having them on during summer.

 

[HaulingAss]

I like the look. Plus the cost and space to maintain two sets of tires far exceeds the 10% range I probably use for having them on during summer.

Oh, yeah, the range hit is around 10% (which is inconsequential for most of us who have far more range than we ever use). But I wasn't talking about the range/efficiency hit, it's the pavement grip in emergency maneuvers (or sporty maneuvers for that matter). I don't like tires that nerf my safety margins, prevent me from cornering as hard as I would like, and increase my stopping distances. I put up with it in the winter, when the deeper lugs might come in handy, and actually increase performance and safety, but I don't like the compromises when on surfaces they don't do well on.

It's hard (for me) to fathom why anyone would give up all that for appearances. And I agree, the winter setup looks a little better. But I don't stand around worshiping my truck, I use it, and function/performance/safety/road feel probably matters a whole hell of a lot more than minor looks differences. The extra efficiency is just a nice bonus. That said, I'll probably be putting my winter setup back on in a couple of months.

 

[EXPTREVER]

Oh, yeah, the range hit is around 10% (which is inconsequential for most of us who have far more range than we ever use). But I wasn't talking about the range/efficiency hit, it's the pavement grip in emergency maneuvers (or sporty maneuvers for that matter). I don't like tires that nerf my safety margins, prevent me from cornering as hard as I would like, and increase my stopping distances. I put up with it in the winter, when the deeper lugs might come in handy, and actually increase performance and safety, but I don't like the compromises when on surfaces they don't do well on.

It's hard (for me) to fathom why anyone would give up all that for appearances. And I agree, the winter setup looks a little better. But I don't stand around worshiping my truck, I use it, and function/performance/safety/road feel probably matters a whole hell of a lot more than minor looks differences. The extra efficiency is just a nice bonus. That said, I'll probably be putting my winter setup back on in a couple of months.

Yea that’s a good point about the safety aspect. I suppose if I had the other tires and a place to store them I would swap them out.

 

[henchman24]

IMO the OEM ATs are not that good of a tire. The more I've been around it, the worse they are. They are about the bare minimum of off road traction to qualify as an AT. They absolutely suck in the snow and ice. On the pavement, they are not nearly as good of tire as the AS. They are also heavy which makes the ride worse and further hurts efficiency. On top of that, their treadlife is bad. It is a compromise tire to give range (the cut tread makes a big difference in testing, not as much in the real world) and the minimum capability for the marketing. They do look great though and I think that is their best quality.

If you want the best on-road performance and safety, the OEM AS is leagues better than the AT. Or getting Michelin Defender LTX M/S those will be better on road than pretty much anything available in the stock size. I'd argue a few different ATs out there are even far superior to the factory ATs with on-road dynamics.

 

[HaulingAss]

IMO the OEM ATs are not that good of a tire. The more I've been around it, the worse they are. They are about the bare minimum of off road traction to qualify as an AT. They absolutely suck in the snow and ice. On the pavement, they are not nearly as good of tire as the AS. They are also heavy which makes the ride worse and further hurts efficiency. On top of that, their treadlife is bad. It is a compromise tire to give range (the cut tread makes a big difference in testing, not as much in the real world) and the minimum capability for the marketing. They do look great though and I think that is their best quality.

If you want the best on-road performance and safety, the OEM AS is leagues better than the AT. Or getting Michelin Defender LTX M/S those will be better on road than pretty much anything available in the stock size. I'd argue a few different ATs out there are even far superior to the factory ATs with on-road dynamics.

I like the OEM All-Terrain tires for my summer usage because I don't change my tires between different environments (only seasonally). So, for the summer they are a good all-rounder, smooth and quiet with good road manners, good efficiency, more flat resistant than the All-Season and I can make them work quite well off-road during the dry months without much concern for sidewall cuts and punctures.

I've heard people who have had both on a Cybertruck say the OEM All-Seasons have a harsher ride quality (vs. OEM All-Terrain) on less than perfect roads. And I do a lot of rugged roads and trails in the summer. To be honest, I don't think the OEM All-seasons would be suitable for the kind of surfaces I would take them on.

In the end, tires are always a compromise, you have to pick tires that make the most sense for your driving environment and how you use them.

 

[mongo]

IMO the OEM ATs are not that good of a tire. The more I've been around it, the worse they are. They are about the bare minimum of off road traction to qualify as an AT. They absolutely suck in the snow and ice. On the pavement, they are not nearly as good of tire as the AS. They are also heavy which makes the ride worse and further hurts efficiency. On top of that, their treadlife is bad. It is a compromise tire to give range (the cut tread makes a big difference in testing, not as much in the real world) and the minimum capability for the marketing. They do look great though and I think that is their best quality.

If you want the best on-road performance and safety, the OEM AS is leagues better than the AT. Or getting Michelin Defender LTX M/S those will be better on road than pretty much anything available in the stock size. I'd argue a few different ATs out there are even far superior to the factory ATs with on-road dynamics.

AT have higher load rating than AS though...

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