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Fully autonomous is the key word here. It will be interesting to see what new legal standards emerge from trying to implement laws written for this situation. I guarantee you prosecutors will argue that software alone can’t convert an operable vehicle into an inoperable one and defendants will argue at the precise moment of the violation they were electing to have the software drive the vehicle, not themselves…some standard for proof will eventually have to emerge and it will have to be clear and unambiguous (like absence of a steering wheel or software that doesn’t permit disengaging autonomous mode without leaving visible/collectable evidence of disengagement, for example).

At the end of the day, you don’t want to be the one paying a lawyer as they fight in court (potentially over your freedom) to set the standards for how the laws are interpreted, so don’t fuck up in your self driving car! Most people don’t understand law creation vs. law interpretation and how clean the former can seem and how messy the latter truly is.
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Bug report goes no where, automatically. It tags information for service to pull upon request.
Interesting. O thought it would get routed to the appropriate team for the issue .
 


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That’s explains my 2025.38.8 update on Sunday and yesterday we received 2025.38.8.5 update

They’re pushing out 2025.38.8 heavily for cybertruck today….

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Ahh, thanks.
THIS is the explanation I was looking for!
 

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The old way was you could set the exact speed with the scroll wheel. Small clicks were 1 mph, if you rolled it it would jump up 5, but with E2E that went away.
Yup. This is a big problem - even with FSDU. Good news is, this means I am no longer impatiently waiting for the update. I don't see anything in the videos that looks better than my current FSD experience. I will be holding out as long as possible. In fact I am heading out to clear my wifi entry.
 

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Ok. 38.8 just downloaded and installed on my CyberBeast.
Let’s see how long before 38.8.5 shows up.
 

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That’s explains my 2025.38.8 update on Sunday and yesterday we received 2025.38.8.5 update

They’re pushing out 2025.38.8 heavily for cybertruck today….

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Sounds right. I went out to turn off my wifi and thought I was too late but it was just 2025.38.8 ready for install. Going to go ahead and grab that one.
 

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At work and just received software update available on my phone.. I don’t look early to release notes, but the suspense is killing me…
 


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My Cyberbeast and my wifes Cybertruck both got updated to 2025.38.8 this afternoon in Houston, TX. No 2025.38.8.5 yet.
 
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