FSD V14 (v14.1.5) for CYBERTRUCK! See 2025.38.8.5 Update Release Notes

[Jhodgesatmb]

Be safe out there, protect yourself as seems Tesla won’t!

Hope update helps, use the subscription FSD and it make four to five mistakes or truthfully many more each drive that requires driver to take over. ‍

I have been using FSD since 2019 and, like many, I watch accident reports involving Teslas and FSD as closely as possible. It seems to me that when there are claims of accidents using FSD it invariably turns out that the driver wasn't using FSD at all and, if it was, that the driver didn't do their job of paying attention. I just drove over 2,000 miles on a road trip and I used FSD for the vast majority of the time. I have a laundry list of issues with FSD but, all in all, it really does a very good job. Is it ready for me to sleep while driving? Hell no. But it really reduces the stress of driving long distances and it is always getting better a little bit at a time. So I am more than a bit annoyed by claims such as you have presented because I know that when FSD is blamed it is usually the driver that deserves the blame. Unfortunate for the driver, but true nonetheless. I know for a fact that FSD has made mistakes while I was the pilot-in-command that could have led to collisions, so it really does fall on us to be attentive and disengage when things go sideways.

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[PungoteagueDave]

I have been using FSD since 2019 and, like many, I watch accident reports involving Teslas and FSD as closely as possible. It seems to me that when there are claims of accidents using FSD it invariably turns out that the driver wasn't using FSD at all and, if it was, that the driver didn't do their job of paying attention. I just drove over 2,000 miles on a road trip and I used FSD for the vast majority of the time. I have a laundry list of issues with FSD but, all in all, it really does a very good job. Is it ready for me to sleep while driving? Hell no. But it really reduces the stress of driving long distances and it is always getting better a little bit at a time. So I am more than a bit annoyed by claims such as you have presented because I know that when FSD is blamed it is usually the driver that deserves the blame. Unfortunate for the driver, but true nonetheless. I know for a fact that FSD has made mistakes while I was the pilot-in-command that could have led to collisions, so it really does fall on us to be attentive and disengage when things go sideways.

It's not always that straight forward. Some of the worst FSD-related accidents on YouTube and elsewhere provided zero reaction time for a driver to take over, even when hyper-diligent. Examples include sudden sharp turns off the road, crossing center lines into oncoming traffic without any foreshadowing or warning, and brake-checking that causes a rear end collision. When there's no reason for an action that wouldn't normally occur, supervising can be tough.

 

[HaulingAss]

When there's no reason for an action that wouldn't normally occur, supervising can be tough.

Maybe you shouldn't be driving using FSD if you don't think you can prevent it from causing an accident.

But the statistics would argue that's not a real problem with cars on FSD having a much lower accident rate than the same cars not using FSD. It could be that your reaction time is just too slow to safely supervise FSD, I recommend not using it if that's the case.

 

[CYBST24]

Be safe out there, protect yourself as seems Tesla won’t!

Hope update helps, use the subscription FSD and it make four to five mistakes or truthfully many more each drive that requires driver to take over. ‍

Another Tesla hit piece from ELECTREK. Shocker!

These guys love Waymo (i.e. woke Google) and hate Elon. If you can’t see that it’s just politics then you might need to check yourself…

from ai deep search:

“Based on a review of recent articles from Electrek, the sentiment towards Waymo is overwhelmingly positive, with an approximate ratio of 10 positive to 0 negative articles in the random sample (focusing on expansions, leadership in autonomy, safety improvements, and talent acquisition, with no clear criticisms dominating any piece). In contrast, coverage of Tesla leans heavily negative, with an approximate ratio of 1 positive to 8 negative articles (highlighting product delays, stock drops, executive compensation controversies, inventory issues, and skepticism around self-driving claims, with only minor positive notes like product teases).”

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

It's not always that straight forward. Some of the worst FSD-related accidents on YouTube and elsewhere provided zero reaction time for a driver to take over, even when hyper-diligent. Examples include sudden sharp turns off the road, crossing center lines into oncoming traffic without any foreshadowing or warning, and brake-checking that causes a rear end collision. When there's no reason for an action that wouldn't normally occur, supervising can be tough.

The 2 incidents I mentioned in passing both happened too quickly for me to intervene; it is one reason I don’t use FSD in town (those incidents happened in other towns where my unfamiliarity with the place seemed to tip the scales on risk). I never said there is no evidence of FSD screwing up, but that I believe a lot of the screwups are pilot error. I have not heard of Tesla blaming drivers for viable FSD issues, but I’d be very interested in knowing how many viable FSD incidents there have been that happened too quickly to control.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Maybe you shouldn't be driving using FSD if you don't think you can prevent it from causing an accident.

But the statistics would argue that's not a real problem with cars on FSD having a much lower accident rate than the same cars not using FSD. It could be that your reaction time is just too slow to safely supervise FSD, I recommend not using it if that's the case.

What a jerk response. I am perfectly cable of using FSD and have never had an issue. However, there is PLENTY of video out there of accidents where no one, including someone with your claimed superior prowess, could have stopped it or intervened. No immediate reaction could have avoided some phantom braking or a sudden turn into oncoming traffic. Fanbois gotta fanboi but let’s be real.

 

[TyPope]

Maybe FSD 14 is all the friends we made along the way

We're talking about FSD 14, not Maroon 5. LOL

Great song though.

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[Boyne]

No.

This is an unsatisfactory answer. I must have max speed setting or I can not and will not own a Tesla. I go max of 5 over speed limit and no more. If no setting for that, then the last 9 years or owning and driving Teslas had been wasted. Any other reply is nuts. . .

Where is my FSD 14? I am trying to be patient!

2025.38.9 with V14 starting to go to Cybertruck.

 

[Galvatron]

This is an unsatisfactory answer. I must have max speed setting or I can not and will not own a Tesla. I go max of 5 over speed limit and no more. If no setting for that, then the last 9 years or owning and driving Teslas had been wasted. Any other reply is nuts. . .

2025.38.9 with V14 starting to go to Cybertruck.

I haven't experienced it firsthand, but the videos I have watched show that each FSD profile has its own max speed level in rough increments of 5mph. E.g., Sloth= speed limit max

 

[Boyne]

This is an unsatisfactory answer. I must have max speed setting or I can not and will not own a Tesla. I go max of 5 over speed limit and no more. If no setting for that, then the last 9 years or owning and driving Teslas had been wasted. Any other reply is nuts. . .

2025.38.9 with V14 starting to go to Cybertruck.

Oops my error, V14 not included.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

What a jerk response. I am perfectly cable of using FSD and have never had an issue. However, there is PLENTY of video out there of accidents where no one, including someone with your claimed superior prowess, could have stopped it or intervened. No immediate reaction could have avoided some phantom braking or a sudden turn into oncoming traffic. Fanbois gotta fanboi but let’s be real.

Having recently had 2 of these types of incidents I agree with @HaulingAss. Once I knew there was a problem with left turns at intersections I should have disengaged FSD before getting into that situation. FSD on Cybertruck will resolve these problems with an improved controller but until then we need to be more vigilant.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

This is an unsatisfactory answer. I must have max speed setting or I can not and will not own a Tesla. I go max of 5 over speed limit and no more. If no setting for that, then the last 9 years or owning and driving Teslas had been wasted. Any other reply is nuts. . .

2025.38.9 with V14 starting to go to Cybertruck.

I go a maximum of 10% over the speed limit unless passing (does FSD even handle passing on 2-lane/unseparated highways?), so I agree on having speed control if things remain (otherwise) the same. That said, I would not stop owning/driving a Tesla over this; I would just not use FSD anymore, but that really assumes Tesla doesn't get the profiles right. Right now my experience is that the profiles don't match my driving habits because they are too fixed and driving is contextual. Why should 'I' have to keep changing driver profiles while driving? The whole idea of FSD is that 'it' will make the right decisions, and the scroll wheel is there because it doesn't (yet). Sometime in the future FSD will be UNsupervised and maybe the scroll wheel becomes something else.

 

[TyPope]

This is an unsatisfactory answer. I must have max speed setting or I can not and will not own a Tesla. I go max of 5 over speed limit and no more. If no setting for that, then the last 9 years or owning and driving Teslas had been wasted. Any other reply is nuts. . .

2025.38.9 with V14 starting to go to Cybertruck.

The new sloth mode keeps it at the speed limit. Exactly what you want.

 

[SCTesla]

The new sloth mode keeps it at the speed limit. Exactly what you want.

Unless the Speed Limit is incorrect.

 

[TyPope]

Unless the Speed Limit is incorrect.

True. The CT would have to be able to read all kinds of speed signs and be able to add contextual inferences... Is school in? Is it between the hours of 8AM and 4PM? Lots to deal with.

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