FSD Speeds for each setting

[RFS]

After reading some of the threads, I’m glad my FSD still works after the update. Has anyone else noticed that the speeds have changed for each driving mode in FSD? I typically run Hurry, and prior to the update it would sit at 10mph over the posted speed limit. On my way into work this morning, I looked down and I was doing 80 in a 55. I went through the Autopilot settings and the max actual speed was set to 75mph. Fine if I’m on the highway, but on the country roads, it’s bound to get me in trouble with the law. I expect that from Mad Max, but Hurry was my “enjoy my coffee and a podcast” cruising speed.

Just curious if anyone else has seen the same thing since the update.

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[SCTesla]

There is no max speed anymore.

I've had around 800 miles on 14.1.2.25 and Hurry will try to go the speed of groups of passing cars. Mad Max typically attempts to go faster than traffic.

 

[georgek43]

After reading some of the threads, I’m glad my FSD still works after the update. Has anyone else noticed that the speeds have changed for each driving mode in FSD? I typically run Hurry, and prior to the update it would sit at 10mph over the posted speed limit. On my way into work this morning, I looked down and I was doing 80 in a 55. I went through the Autopilot settings and the max actual speed was set to 75mph. Fine if I’m on the highway, but on the country roads, it’s bound to get me in trouble with the law. I expect that from Mad Max, but Hurry was my “enjoy my coffee and a podcast” cruising speed.

Just curious if anyone else has seen the same thing since the update.

Yes, same thing, too fast in neighborhoods, too slow on highways, creeps up or down to speeds I do not want, and I have limited control to ‘supervise‘ the ‘full self driving’. I hate the new speed profiles. I have to watch the FSD much much more than before. Makes the whole experience less pleasant, less relaxing and more anxiety provoking. I can no longer use FSD in my neighborhood because the speed limits are incorrect and the vehicle insists on speeding even in sloth mode. How did such a smart bunch of developers makes such a stupid decision? I can’t do one of the absolute most important things that makes the vehicle safe and legal- speed management. Keep the profiles if you like (I personally do not like them at all and think they are a SIGNIFICANT DOWNGRADE) BUT give me back my ‘driver set max speed’ scroll wheel. My love affair with my CyberTruck is in serious trouble.

 

[HaulingAss]

My observation is the speed profiles have become more safety based. If FSD is operating with a high safety margin the speed profiles will have more effect. If FSD judges more speed would increase the risk too much you could crank it up to "Mad Max" with little or no effect. I think it's not primarily based on the posted speed limit, but on internally generated risk profiles.

I've also noticed "Mad Max" might not kick in until after it comes to a stop (for example at a light or stop sign) and then it seems to kick in. I'm not sure what that's about but I find it fascinating nevertheless.

 

[TyPope]

I don't mind having driving profiles but there really should be a "I want the hurry profile but keep speed around 45" button. Standard was zipping along at 72 in a 55 this morning. Not that that's a crazy speed but I didn't want to go that fast.

I've got it!

Similar to how you can tap the accelerator to say "Go a little faster in this profile", there should be a button (not the brake pedal because that'd be dangerous) that says "Whoa there, nellie, whoa"

 

[Cybermo]

I'm in a construction zone where speed limits fluctuate often and half the time the car doesn't register the speed limit signs, and even when it does it ends up going 15mph faster than what is posted even in standard mode. I really miss being able to just set the speed you want.

 

[Oscar]

After reading some of the threads, I’m glad my FSD still works after the update. Has anyone else noticed that the speeds have changed for each driving mode in FSD? I typically run Hurry, and prior to the update it would sit at 10mph over the posted speed limit. On my way into work this morning, I looked down and I was doing 80 in a 55. I went through the Autopilot settings and the max actual speed was set to 75mph. Fine if I’m on the highway, but on the country roads, it’s bound to get me in trouble with the law. I expect that from Mad Max, but Hurry was my “enjoy my coffee and a podcast” cruising speed.

Just curious if anyone else has seen the same thing since the update.

I found it just follows the traffic. Similar to your case, mine did 75 mph on 55 road, because everyone else runs that fast. However, when you become the leader, it goes ~5mph above the speed limit in standard mode, ~10 in Hurry mode. I haven’t tested the Mad Max mode yet

 

[DanWill]

FSD will never work right until the speeds on the mapping software actually reflect the real world speed limits. I've had my cybertruck since June and the speeds on most of the rural roads near me are wrong. Some hugely wrong. One 25 mph zone shows 60 on the software. I don't understand how the same company that can do this amazing AI full self driving can't get the speeds right on the road. My 2015 F250 has the correct speeds...

 

[JCERRN]

Original post: Fsd is driver based: the more aggressive of a driver you are, the more aggressive fsd will be, regardless of drive mode, the drive modes do ramp it up/down though too.

EDIT: i did more reading and clarified that FSD does NOT in fact base how aggressive it drives on individual driver profiles. My above statement is incorrect. Thanks for pointing this out @SCTesla

I will stand by the section below, as this is my ANECDOTAL experience. V14 incorporates changes much faster than v13 did.

it takes feedback on speeding up really well, and you must brake or disengage to teach it where its not ok to speed. Speeding is a crime and warrants disengagement when it is potentially dangerous. This is how the system learns right and wrong. Be intentional about teaching it and you'll see how fast v14 adapts. It’s wild how it actively learns and incorporates what its learned.

 

[SlegMD]

The changes have been good for me, I dislike mad max behavior and 20mph over is too much.

That said Hurry mode was “improved “ to my driving speed of 77-80mph on freeway where most traffic is 75 plus(speed limit 65), and is far less lane change aggressive than MadMax.

Mad max was my go-to with frequent intervening, Hurry is now my go-to with infrequent intervening.

Hurry mode is 5 over in residential, usable.

 

[SCTesla]

Fsd is driver based: the more aggressive of a driver you arr, the more aggressive fsd will be, regardless of drive mode, the drive modes do ramp it up/down though too.

it takes feedback on speeding up really well, and you must brake or disengage to teach it where its not ok to speed. Speeding is a crime and warrants disengagement when it is potentially dangerous. This is how the system learns right and wrong. Be intentional about teaching it and you'll see how fast v14 adapts. Its wild how it actively learns and incorporates what its learned.

This is completely false. There is no local learning. Your local data trains the fleet.

The only locally stored information is navigation and personal vehicle settings. Tesla and Green have detailed this numerous times

 

[JCERRN]

This is completely false. There is no local learning. Your local data trains the fleet.

The only locally stored information is navigation and personal vehicle settings. Tesla and Green have detailed this numerous times

I think i misunderstood what i read about driver profiles and aggressiveness. I will edit my post.
Anecdotally, i have noticed near immediate changes in how it reacts at “problem areas” during repeated drives, thats just been my experience.

 

[Gaximus]

Here is how I think it should work, that would please everybody.
Settings: Set max speed, percent or mph over speed limit, this would be for hurry and mad max, all other profiles go speed limit.
Control Wheel:
Right: up a profile
Left: Down a profile
Scroll: Sets speed limit, not max, but the actually speed limit sign on dash, this was if it miss reads a sign or doesn’t catch it, it can be updated. Also allows people to go under speed limit by setting this.
Double Click: Cop mode, instant slowdown to speed limit.

 

[Blue Oval Ron]

Yes, same thing, too fast in neighborhoods, too slow on highways, creeps up or down to speeds I do not want, and I have limited control to ‘supervise‘ the ‘full self driving’. I hate the new speed profiles. I have to watch the FSD much much more than before. Makes the whole experience less pleasant, less relaxing and more anxiety provoking. I can no longer use FSD in my neighborhood because the speed limits are incorrect and the vehicle insists on speeding even in sloth mode. How did such a smart bunch of developers makes such a stupid decision? I can’t do one of the absolute most important things that makes the vehicle safe and legal- speed management. Keep the profiles if you like (I personally do not like them at all and think they are a SIGNIFICANT DOWNGRADE) BUT give me back my ‘driver set max speed’ scroll wheel. My love affair with my CyberTruck is in serious trouble.

This is a problem.
I have complained and was told not to use FSD
WTF good was it to purchase that feature???? This is ridiculous to pay that amount for a feature that does not function as before. I'm selling this crap!

 

[Oscar]

This is a problem.
I have complained and was told not to use FSD
WTF good was it to purchase that feature???? This is ridiculous to pay that amount for a feature that does not function as before. I'm selling this crap!

You can simply scroll down or up, using the right wheel”, to switch the mode, unless you want to sleep and do nothing, which is called “unsupervised “.

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