$59,990 Dual Motor AWD Cybertruck announced! (Estimated Delivery Date Now 2027!)

[500 EPA miles]

I just have to assume this is because or dry cell improvements. I don't see where else the cost reduction came from.

So wen username?

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[Griswold]

I stand corrected! Thank you for pointing out my error. I’m still out without it but at least the lowered the price.

They put it exactly where it was before luxe. It's a confusing game.

 

[hemiarch]

If you calculate the usable range of the battery from %20 to %80, that is using %60 of 123KW pack, or 73.8kwh, which is about 6.4 Powerwalls equivilant at 11.5Kwh per Powerwall.. most keep their battery at %80, and it's best to not drain it below %20. So, yes it has the equivilant CAPACITY of 6 Powerwalls, but the not the amperage, as they each can output 11.5KW of power each, Cybertruck is 11.5KW in total, but for longer..

But I have two powerwall 3’s that can handle more than my peak draw. I’m thinking in terms of purely storage capacity for my solar and off peak juice. 60k sounds like a good deal for a portable power station that can also import juice from a dc fast charger if need be.

 

[mitch9]

But I have two powerwall 3’s that can handle more than my peak draw. I’m thinking in terms of purely storage capacity for my solar and off peak juice. 60k sounds like a good deal for a portable power station that can also import juice from a dc fast charger if need be.

Correct me if I am incorrect, but the Cybertruck can either be:

A) charging
or
B) discharging

In order to charge it via solar you would have to do it during the day, at less than your maximum charge setting.. once it is charged, your done, it can only discharge at that point. Also, it isn't "interactive" with the powerwalls (yet), meaning it can't phase sync with them, that's the issue they are having... seems like they need to redesign the AC interface to be able to do that, and to "curtail" grid tied inverters as well, via "frequency shifting" (UL1741)

 

[YDR37]

The Cyberbeast was $114,990 with the Luxe Package. Now it's $99,990 without.

They put it exactly where it was before luxe. It's a confusing game.

To make it even more confusing, Tesla removed the Luxe Package from the Cyberbeast, but kept the Luxe Package for the Model S and the Model X. The top trims on the S ($109,490) and the X ($114,490) are now significantly more expensive than the Cyberbeast ($99,990).

As of February 14, the Luxe Package still includes free FSD, but only for the original owner. FSD can no longer be transferred if the car changes ownership.

 

[Cybermo]

Air suspension is worth 20k alone. No hyperbole. Nice that they have another temporary model though

 

[Griswold]

To make it even more confusing, Tesla removed the Luxe Package from the Cyberbeast, but kept the Luxe Package for the Model S and the Model X. The top trims on the S ($109,490) and the X ($114,490) are now significantly more expensive than the Cyberbeast ($99,990).

As of February 14, the Luxe Package still includes free FSD, but only for the original owner. FSD can no longer be transferred if the car changes ownership.

They're really positioning the Cybertruck in line with the fleet that will remain past this summer. The order page looks more like 3/Y than S/X, whereas before today it was the opposite.

 

[YDR37]

They're really positioning the Cybertruck in line with the fleet that will remain past this summer. The order page looks more like 3/Y than S/X, whereas before today it was the opposite.

It does look that way. You can now pay:

$54,990 for a Model 3 Performance AWD, or
$57,490 for a Model Y Performance AWD, or
$59,990 for a Cybertruck Dual-Motor AWD

 

[JCERRN]

Retains the steer by wire 4 wheel steering, motorized tonneau cover description comparison (see pics), audio has less speakers and no active noise cancelation, 20in Core wheels are optional and so is the Terrestrial Armor Package!!! Cyberwheels with AT tires can be ordered from Shop.
This new Daul Motor AWD Cybertruck is the legitimate child of the RWD Cybertruck and the Premium AWD Cybertruck; Great DNAs and a good looker

Looks like they are listing ANC now with the PAWD and CB

 

[hemiarch]

Correct me if I am incorrect, but the Cybertruck can either be:

A) charging
or
B) discharging

In order to charge it via solar you would have to do it during the day, at less than your maximum charge setting.. once it is charged, your done, it can only discharge at that point. Also, it isn't "interactive" with the powerwalls (yet), meaning it can't phase sync with them, that's the issue they are having... seems like they need to redesign the AC interface to be able to do that, and to "curtail" grid tied inverters as well, via "frequency shifting" (UL1741)

So I’m certainly not the guy to correct you on anything but the way I’m thinking about it is, during the day I charge my new power station aka “base” cybertruck with my Tesla wall connector and at night, when my powerwalls are done I use the truck to power the house.
Ideally with a powerwall 3 software upgrade which they have been promising but even if they completely cancel that with a PowerShare gateway.
So instead of exporting power during the day to the power company and buying it at night, i store all my own and use all my own juice 24 hrs a day.

 

[MUTED]

I think they did a great job with $60k AWD model here vs. the terrible $70k RWD config.

So compared to current AWD @ $80k. This is what the $20k extra "Premium" pays for
- Air Suspension
- Textile Seats / No Cooling
- No White Seats / Trim
- Standard Console (vs. Premium)
- No Cabin Outlets
- No Premium Audio (7 speaker vs. 15), No Active Noise cancellation
- No Rear Display
- Standard Bed Lamps vs. Full length bed lamps
- No L-Tracks
- No Gear Locker / Vault
- Standard Tail lamps (probably no red light bar in the tail gate)
- 7500 lb vs 11,000 lb towing
- 2006 lb vs 2500 lb payload
- 18" Wheels vs 20" Core Wheels
- 4680 Dry Cathode batteries (supercharging speed is different, 132 miles/15min vs 137/15 on the premium AWD)


Am I missing anything, or get something wrong?

Maybe I’m reading your message wrong but the new premium dual motor for 80k is the same as the current 80k awd.

The new 60k version loses a lot of the “premium” stuff.

 

[YDR37]

Should be interesting to see the effect of the new trim on the used Cybertruck market.

I just searched cars.com for used CTs nationwide, and got 188 hits. The least expensive option was priced at $69,777 (not including one that had been in an accident). Used AWDs are typically $70,000+.

Is that used pricing sustainable now that you can get a brand new AWD CT -- OK, with a few less features -- for $59,990? Maybe not. We should find out by June, when the new trim will actually become available.

 

[mitch9]

Sure, but your electrical cost would need to be “California” high to justify a $60K dedicated Cybertruck for, I would think.. payback period will be measured in decades…

 

[2000prerunner]

Interesting! Pretty good! But no off-road capabilities unless the coil spring is set high clearance from factory and unless the pics havent been added, it doesn’t look like it…

I would think quite the opposite. air suspensions are generally a gimmick that Land Rovers and the like run. Absolutely no serious off-road vehicle would ever run an air suspension. Jeep , raptor , any TRD off road Toyota , no air suspension. Almost every single aftermarket long travel suspension kit has traditional coil overs with a spring. In fact, I have to now worry about getting a fault message when I toss out those stupid airbags on my current CT in favor of a proper off-road coil over setup.
This trim cyber truck is perfect for anybody who wants to push it off-road or potentially modify it to actually off-road.

 

[Simply_Human]

I'd be all over it, but without ventilated front seats, its a deal breaker. This should be an add-on option.

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