Ordered a CT AWD on 2/28 w/o knowing changed for FSD transfer "order -> delivery" by 31 March

[MilliVanilli]

Originally FSD transfer was allowed for orders made by 3/31 for the dual motor Cybertruck. This was confirmed by all of the many Tesla advisors I spoke to. They all said it was no problem and that the transfer would take place near to delivery. Then all of a sudden the wording was changed after many people had already ordered. IMO that's breaking the contract if they don't honor the original purchase deal. These weren't preorders they were actual orders. It's extremely sleazy if they change the deal after the agreement is made.

Tesla is screwing over their most loyal customers and it will burn them in the long run (especially with the Rivian R2 and other competition coming out soon). Buying a Tesla is now a shadier experience than legacy auto dealerships.

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[Gaximus]

It doesn't. That is why the terms were changed. Elon saw 10k in FSD (guess) subscriptions gone in those sales. Those people were going to buy a new car or truck within some period. Elon was mad they were transferring into a cheap truck. Said screw them. Even if we get half of those canceled in orders. He still got 5k in subscriptions in cars being bought.

Imagine if sports stars were paid sole on performance like Elon. More fun game. More fights. More cheating, drug use. Would be awesome.

That’s assuming all 10k orders(your guess) had FSD to transfer. I’m guessing it is a much much smaller number.

 

[not_elon_]

I’m not worried. They are going to come to their senses when HW3 retrofits cost more.

 

[Cayden Thompson]

I’m not worried. They are going to come to their senses when HW3 retrofits cost more.

Hope so dam

 

[Outdoors]

That’s assuming all 10k orders(your guess) had FSD to transfer. I’m guessing it is a much much smaller number.

I would say the number across all cars when order by date not take delivery date happened were pretty large. I think that was Elon saying. Hay we are giving you one more chance. Order the stupid car or truck. I ain't kidding.

Then the numbers came in, and it wasn't really where they wanted the transfers going. Tesla sells in the US 10-12k 3 and Y's a week. The take rate was low on FSD over the years, but still the transfer from EAP to FSD was super cheap post purchase. There are about 750,000 full purchased FSD not subscriptions. All those numbers were made public early this year.

Wouldn't hazard 10k in FSD transfer orders that week period. Tesla can see the cars the order takers own and age and equipment. Likely did an AI on all the happenings and said this is dumb.

I would also say the income for older purchasers(not age, date of purchase) of Tesla is higher. We have the disposable income to write checks for cars and trucks on whims. We also bought Tesla's when they were all above 100k. The good old years. So seeing 10k again is a small % of the 750k. Let's say 100k of those cars are getting to replacement age. 10% of those is totally plausible in transfer orders.

By letting them transfer they are giving up the lifetime of the car revenue. That is 10 years+ of income. So it is a big deal if the costs go up. When people can nap or watch a movie it won't be $99 a month.

So Tesla can do what they want they run the show. We as consumers control the checkbook.

 

[Gaximus]

I would say the number across all cars when order by date not take delivery date happened were pretty large. I think that was Elon saying. Hay we are giving you one more chance. Order the stupid car or truck. I ain't kidding.

Then the numbers came in, and it wasn't really where they wanted the transfers going. Tesla sells in the US 10-12k 3 and Y's a week. The take rate was low on FSD over the years, but still the transfer from EAP to FSD was super cheap post purchase. There are about 750,000 full purchased FSD not subscriptions. All those numbers were made public early this year.

Wouldn't hazard 10k in FSD transfer orders that week period. Tesla can see the cars the order takers own and age and equipment. Likely did an AI on all the happenings and said this is dumb.

I would also say the income for older purchasers(not age, date of purchase) of Tesla is higher. We have the disposable income to write checks for cars and trucks on whims. We also bought Tesla's when they were all above 100k. The good old years. So seeing 10k again is a small % of the 750k. Let's say 100k of those cars are getting to replacement age. 10% of those is totally plausible in transfer orders.

By letting them transfer they are giving up the lifetime of the car revenue. That is 10 years+ of income. So it is a big deal if the costs go up. When people can nap or watch a movie it won't be $99 a month.

So Tesla can do what they want they run the show. We as consumers control the checkbook.

But like you said most owners of FSD either paid $8k-$15k, or a $100k+ vehicle. It's unlikely that those are the people holding out on a sub $60k truck.

 

[Outdoors]

But like you said most owners of FSD either paid $8k-$15k, or a $100k+ vehicle. It's unlikely that those are the people holding out on a sub $60k truck.

$8-15k. Where is that from? I never paid more than 8k for FSD.

Yeah you must not know us then. I will be writing a check for mine. The 100k truck I already own. I don't need another 100k truck. This would be my six vehicle in 4 homes. It's kind of dumb letting 100k trucks just sit there 3/4 of the year.

So ya buy a stripped down version. Also getting slates for guests to drive. That might be the best idea. 4 30k trucks for them to drive. Keep the riff raff out of my stuff.

You didn't address the 10,000 transfer that you think it's extremely high. You just commented on the rest of my comments so you must agree that it's very possible that 10,000 transferred easily. That's 10% of potential cars that's less than 3% of full FSD owners.

 

[Gaximus]

$8-15k. Where is that from? I never paid more than 8k for FSD.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/958/tesla-fsd-price-increase-history

Yeah you must not know us then. I will be writing a check for mine. The 100k truck I already own. I don't need another 100k truck. This would be my six vehicle in 4 homes. It's kind of dumb letting 100k trucks just sit there 3/4 of the year.

So ya buy a stripped down version. Also getting slates for guests to drive. That might be the best idea. 4 30k trucks for them to drive. Keep the riff raff out of my stuff.

You didn't address the 10,000 transfer that you think it's extremely high. You just commented on the rest of my comments so you must agree that it's very possible that 10,000 transferred easily. That's 10% of potential cars that's less than 3% of full FSD owners.

I don't know how to argue with the rest of that, if you think its dumb letting 100k trucks sit there for 3/4 of there year, but not dumb to let $60k trucks sit there 3/4 of the year. If you have more money than sense to have your guests drive 60k trucks that sit there most of the year, unused then just buy the FSD outright. You're clearly not concerned about money.

The majority of the people buying this $60k truck were from the 4 million preorders that dropped out when the $100k price point was released. Most of those where (going to be) first time EV owners, from the surveys, so not FSD transfers. Some sure, but we don't even know how many $60k trucks have been ordered.

 

[BlueLightning]

Terrible.

-Fred

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