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I still have to explain to people the myths about electric cars.
I was deeply saddened when someone awaiting my arrival asked what vehicle I was driving, but had never heard of a "Cybertruck" 😭
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Article https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...ck-nearly-drive-mom-baby-off-overpass-lawsuit

A Texas woman is suing Tesla for a million dollars, claiming her Cybertruck crashed while it was in self-driving mode.





Musk responds:

Musk has now responded directly to those claims, saying on X that internal data shows Autopilot (or FSD, as Autopilot has never been available on the Cybertruck) was disengaged 4 seconds before impact.

“Logs show driver disengaged Autopilot four seconds before crashing,” Musk said, adding, “As anyone knows who uses it, that video is not how Autopilot drives.”

According to Musk’s comments, the vehicle was under full manual control during the critical moments leading up to the collision, from around this frame in the video.

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This detail is significant, as it directly challenges the central claim in the lawsuit—that the Cybertruck was operating autonomously when it veered off course.

In the footage, the Cybertruck initially appears to follow the curve of the overpass before abruptly continuing straight, and perhaps even accelerating into the barrier, which could indicate driver confusion or a delayed reaction.

The plaintiff’s legal team maintains that the system failed and that the driver attempted to regain control too late to avoid the crash. The lawsuit also alleges Tesla misrepresented the capabilities of its driver-assistance technology and failed to implement sufficient safety redundancies.

While Musk posted his comments on X, Tesla has not formally responded to the lawsuit, and the case remains in its early stages. The case will likely continue, and as more telemetry data becomes available through discovery, a clearer picture of what happened in the moments before the crash is likely to emerge. - (via Drivetesla)
Interesting they don't show the full screen video that shows speed/pedals and whether Fsd was active or not.
 

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Interesting they don't show the full screen video that shows speed/pedals and whether Fsd was active or not.
It was last year, before that update came out. I'm just glad Elon chose to publicly state it was out of FSD for 4 seconds before the crash. 90% of the public that have seen this video still won't know that.
 


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It was last year, before that update came out. I'm just glad Elon chose to publicly state it was out of FSD for 4 seconds before the crash. 90% of the public that have seen this video still won't know that.
In all fairness, 4 seconds is a lot of distance over a short period of time when going even 40 mph. The vehicle would have travelled Approximately 234.66 feet in that 4 seconds. The vehicle has a lot of mass. Trying to change the direction of that mass at even moderate speeds becomes a pure physics problem.
Long stories short- if FSD wasnt slowing down a reasonable distance from what was clearly a non standard road or construction, the driver should have been paying enough attention to know “oh shit the trucks going pretty fast into this 80 degree curve… i should probably slow down…”
 

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It’s always someone else’s fault 😴

Tesla Cybertruck Women sues Tesla claiming Cybertruck crash caused by FSD (video). Musk responds & owners test with their own FSD IMG_8653
 

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I was deeply saddened when someone awaiting my arrival asked what vehicle I was driving, but had never heard of a "Cybertruck" 😭
Was giving away a piece of furniture via Craigslist and told the guy I was driving a silver truck. 😁 It was in early ‘25, so CT hate was a probability. When parting ways, the guy did make a comment about me understating what I was driving. :LOL:
 

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So you're telling me I can go crash my cybertruck and then tell the news it was FSD and they will just cover it and treat it like a real story? No proof needed just my pinkie promise? Thats amazing.
 


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It’s always someone else’s fault 😴

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This is a tragic accident but going 80 on tight corners in any car might leave you in some real trouble. I actually use this accident with my children and anyone who drives my truck. It's very fast, but over 40 corners just like any other truck and you will die if you think its a sports car.
 
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she disengaged for the length of that entire video.
That is not what Elon said. He said 4 seconds before impact. The video clip is 8 seconds long before impact. If you watch the video 4 seconds before impact it looks like a lot less time to react.

Estimated Stopping Distances (60 mph to 0 mph)
  • Ideal Conditions: A 7,000 lb truck (empty or lightly loaded) will generally take roughly 130 to 170+ feet to stop, excluding reaction time.
  • Total Stopping Distance (including reaction time): At 60 mph, a driver takes about 1.5 seconds to react, traveling an additional 132 feet before braking begins. A 7,000 lb truck may require a total of over 300 feet to come to a complete stop, which is longer than a football field.
Point is, if what Elon said is true, and they disengaged 4 seconds before impact, it is still entirely possible that this lady's claim is true. You can see the truck slowed down significantly before impact.
 

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That is not what Elon said. He said 4 seconds before impact. The video clip is 8 seconds long before impact. If you watch the video 4 seconds before impact it looks like a lot less time to react.

Estimated Stopping Distances (60 mph to 0 mph)
  • Ideal Conditions: A 7,000 lb truck (empty or lightly loaded) will generally take roughly 130 to 170+ feet to stop, excluding reaction time.
  • Total Stopping Distance (including reaction time): At 60 mph, a driver takes about 1.5 seconds to react, traveling an additional 132 feet before braking begins. A 7,000 lb truck may require a total of over 300 feet to come to a complete stop, which is longer than a football field.
Point is, if what Elon said is true, and they disengaged 4 seconds before impact, it is still entirely possible that this lady's claim is true. You can see the truck slowed down significantly before impact.
no not really, 4 seconds is a long time in the video. The funny thing is if she kept FSD on it, she would have been fine. Given that there are milllons of miles driven on FSD, the safety is actually better on FSD than a human driver.

we all know this is just a lawyer trying to get a payday from Tesla and the fact that it did disengage 4 seconds before the accident, it’s 100% a human error.
 

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A second point is Elon said they disengaged 4 seconds before impact (or about 8 seconds after the clip starts). If you watch the video 2 seconds in, while FSD is still active you can see a 15mph suggested speed for the turn sign. The vehicle is clearly going way faster than that, and there is no clear sign its slowing down until after FSD was disengaged.

I have had my CT do something very similar to this, thankfully it was at a much lower speed (25mph) and I had to take over and nearly hit the curb.
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