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The whole point of having a compressible front structure is to reduce the g force load on the passengers. You want to have a slow deceleration of the passengers not a fast one.

This is simply because you can reduce the impact energy of the passengers by increasing the time the energy is absorbed over. This works because the car hits well before the passengers are subject to the forces, and can also move forwards into the restraints and airbags.

An abrupt stop from a non-deforming front structure means all the force is put on the person instead at one time, meaning unsurvivable amounts of g-forces that would crush and tear a body apart.

Imagine falling onto a mattress or a solid concrete floor. The car is the passengers "soft mattress" in a collision and must compress to reduce the force.

This way the people survive the impact but the car doesn't. This is intentional and by design in nearly every modern vehicle.

The best crash is a totaled car where you still walk away from.

Car and repairs are the last thing on your mind.

I still don't know why people aren't doing outside airbags though...best of both worlds.
So JBee, would you choose the safest PICK-UP in the World if you were to be involved in a road crash?
I know l wouldn't even take a millisecond to say YES!
ANCAP could potentially award the CT a >5.1 STAR RATING ( 5.4 was the Model S )
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I’m surprised I never looked at it that way, and strangely enough that’s common sense ;) I must be getting old. Thanks
 

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There is a lot of negative press about the lack of pedestrian protection when it comes to the CT (since it appears that if you are in the truck, you are (almost) bullet and crash proof). I wonder what protections (outside of FSD stopping the CT before impact) that Tesla has (and can?) make to better protect folks on the outside of the vehicle. I honestly attribute most of the negative press to hit jobs because, let's face it: some of the larger trucks on the road now would obliterate a person if they hit them head on. A lot of the outcry is about how if you were hit head on as a pedestrian, you would be thrown under the truck. Would you stand a better chance of survival if you were thrown over or under it? I guess some of that depends on the ride height that the suspension is set to on impact. Thoughts?
 

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Somewhere I saw an outdoor test of Cybertruck hitting a concrete wall at various speeds...all the way up to 80mph. That was very interesting but I haven't seen it anywhere since.
 


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There is a lot of negative press about the lack of pedestrian protection when it comes to the CT (since it appears that if you are in the truck, you are (almost) bullet and crash proof). I wonder what protections (outside of FSD stopping the CT before impact) that Tesla has (and can?) make to better protect folks on the outside of the vehicle. I honestly attribute most of the negative press to hit jobs because, let's face it: some of the larger trucks on the road now would obliterate a person if they hit them head on. A lot of the outcry is about how if you were hit head on as a pedestrian, you would be thrown under the truck. Would you stand a better chance of survival if you were thrown over or under it? I guess some of that depends on the ride height that the suspension is set to on impact. Thoughts?
AEB could help reduce pedestrian collisions, which is the best safety feature of all 🤷‍♂️
 

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There is a lot of negative press about the lack of pedestrian protection when it comes to the CT (since it appears that if you are in the truck, you are (almost) bullet and crash proof). I wonder what protections (outside of FSD stopping the CT before impact) that Tesla has (and can?) make to better protect folks on the outside of the vehicle. I honestly attribute most of the negative press to hit jobs because, let's face it: some of the larger trucks on the road now would obliterate a person if they hit them head on. A lot of the outcry is about how if you were hit head on as a pedestrian, you would be thrown under the truck. Would you stand a better chance of survival if you were thrown over or under it? I guess some of that depends on the ride height that the suspension is set to on impact. Thoughts?
Compared to what, though?

it has
  • a plastic bumper,
  • a lower, sloped hood,
  • fewer protrusions to get caught on,
  • collision warning systems,
  • collision mitigation braking,
  • and supervised self-driving which can recognize pedestrians and not risk them in the first place.
These can slow the vehicle or avoid them entirely as long as the driver doesn't override them. It's gonna be better than any other truck out there vs pedestrians.

-Crissa
 

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Compared to what, though?

it has
  • a plastic bumper,
  • a lower, sloped hood,
  • fewer protrusions to get caught on,
  • collision warning systems,
  • collision mitigation braking,
  • and supervised self-driving which can recognize pedestrians and not risk them in the first place.
These can slow the vehicle or avoid them entirely as long as the driver doesn't override them. It's gonna be better than any other truck out there vs pedestrians.

-Crissa
These articles are most likely hit jobs sponsored by the Big 3 / Big Oil. They definitely do not deter me from my future purchase. I agree with you, it is going to be as safe as humanly (with some help from AI, even) possible.
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