Women sues Tesla claiming Cybertruck crash caused by FSD (video). Musk responds & owners test with their own FSD

[CyberGus]

I'm sorry. AI should be able to find signs, and even interpret the text on them.

Evidently, MobileEye patented “reading text of street signs” so there might be an IP legal issue. Of course AI can read signs, even my phone can do that.

On the main east west road in town, sometimes it tries to stop at a few of the stoplights even if they are green. It also tries to stop at some crosswalk only spots around town when nobody is there.

That’s bizarre, and has not been my experience. It even slows down to traverse speed humps.

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[CyberJustice]

Lmao, just remember there are trolls here (and lawyers) trying to paint a picture here.

 

[Eka]

Evidently, MobileEye patented “reading text of street signs” so there might be an IP legal issue. Of course AI can read signs, even my phone can do that.

The can't patent the generic reading of signs with computers, only the method they developed. If they don't have the needed specificity to recreate the patent can be challenged. I'm positive an AI algorithm is different than theirs.

That’s bizarre, and has not been my experience. It even slows down to traverse speed humps.

The stoplights it likes to sometimes stop at have easily visible wide crosswalk lines. No zebra stripes.

 

[HaulingAss]

I was deeply saddened when someone awaiting my arrival asked what vehicle I was driving, but had never heard of a "Cybertruck"

Do you often hang out with such out of touch people?

In any case, I would have simply replied, "Don't worry, you can't miss it!".

 

[HaulingAss]

This is a tragic accident but going 80 on tight corners in any car might leave you in some real trouble. I actually use this accident with my children and anyone who drives my truck. It's very fast, but over 40 corners just like any other truck and you will die if you think its a sports car.

If you think the Cybertruck corners like any other truck at speeds above 40 mph, I question if you have ever really driven other pickup trucks.

I've NEVER driven another pickup that corners as well as my Cybertruck with the OEM All-Terrain tires. That doesn't make it a sports car but it does make it different from other pickups.

 

[AlDente]

I have not seen if that is mentioned. I do think the emergency release levers should be more obvious. However there are 0 physical levers outside the truck. In most modern vehicles, the doors automatically unlock when airbags deploy. What if a passenger is incapacitated and good samaritan is outside? It would be very difficult to provide assistance.

They do bring up the windows being virtually inescapable as well in their claim.

If this is the Danville CA case, these kids were joyriding the family Cyberbeast going 100mph in town. The truck jumped a curb, hit a wall then wedged between the wall and a tree. It was so destroyed it's unlikely the doors could be opened manually anyway. It was of course a tragedy but the kid driving and his parents are responsible, not the vehicle.

 

[Ty77064]

lawyers really suck. More than politicians. maybe more going to DMV or post office and their incompetence, Musk should have fired all of them...

Not getting political, but I would put politicians at the bottom

There ARE good lawyers. And you will eventually need one, for any number of reasons.

 

[Ddanis60]

I have not seen if that is mentioned. I do think the emergency release levers should be more obvious. However there are 0 physical levers outside the truck. In most modern vehicles, the doors automatically unlock when airbags deploy. What if a passenger is incapacitated and good samaritan is outside? It would be very difficult to provide assistance.

They do bring up the windows being virtually inescapable as well in their claim.

The rear emergency escape cables are hidden and not obvious by design. those rear emergency release cables need to NOT be visible or obvious as they override the child lock... for safety.

the front door emergency releases are so obvious that I have to tell people repeatedly to NOT pull the emergency door lever and use the button instead. I agree that from the outside, to a non-emergency passerby, not a lot can be done. I think if allowable, having the doors pop open in the event of a crash under certain circumstances would be a great idea.

there is a reason for all of it, and Tesla isn't in charge of the rules that govern these decisions. People need to become familiar with their vehicles safety features. Now these features don't work too well if you decide to become a passenger in a vehicle being operated dangerously, which then proceeds to be crashed at a high rate of speed against a concrete wall, limiting door movement. I agree that someone is liable for that, but id be very surprised if any court found Tesla to be liable.

slightly related, but a few weeks ago at a supercharger, someone in a model 3 couldn't remove the charging from their car, as there was no power to the cabinet. it would allow you to plug in , but then could not be removed. They were stuck and I watched them just stare at it for 10 seconds at a time and pulling. I went over and showed them the charge cable manual release in the trunk, and they acted like I was some sort of savior with this insane knowledge that was somehow secretive. This happened two more times while I was there. people need to read up how their vehicles core systems work. It could safe their life.

 

[REM]

In most modern vehicles, the doors automatically unlock when airbags deploy. What if a passenger is incapacitated and good samaritan is outside? It would be very difficult to provide assistance.

I would be fine with an option to select what happens in the even of a crash, but it's not necessarily a good idea to automatically unlock for security and safety reasons.

 

[dw321]

she disengaged for the length of that entire video.

Excellent point. She was driving the entire time.

 

[Cactusrick]

Article https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...ck-nearly-drive-mom-baby-off-overpass-lawsuit

A Texas woman is suing Tesla for a million dollars, claiming her Cybertruck crashed while it was in self-driving mode.





Musk responds:

Musk has now responded directly to those claims, saying on X that internal data shows Autopilot (or FSD, as Autopilot has never been available on the Cybertruck) was disengaged 4 seconds before impact.

“Logs show driver disengaged Autopilot four seconds before crashing,” Musk said, adding, “As anyone knows who uses it, that video is not how Autopilot drives.”

According to Musk’s comments, the vehicle was under full manual control during the critical moments leading up to the collision, from around this frame in the video.

This detail is significant, as it directly challenges the central claim in the lawsuit—that the Cybertruck was operating autonomously when it veered off course.

In the footage, the Cybertruck initially appears to follow the curve of the overpass before abruptly continuing straight, and perhaps even accelerating into the barrier, which could indicate driver confusion or a delayed reaction.

The plaintiff’s legal team maintains that the system failed and that the driver attempted to regain control too late to avoid the crash. The lawsuit also alleges Tesla misrepresented the capabilities of its driver-assistance technology and failed to implement sufficient safety redundancies.

While Musk posted his comments on X, Tesla has not formally responded to the lawsuit, and the case remains in its early stages. The case will likely continue, and as more telemetry data becomes available through discovery, a clearer picture of what happened in the moments before the crash is likely to emerge. - (via Drivetesla)

Such BS and most people will only see the headline..Anyone that has driven one knows:
1. SUPERVISED - supervised - supervised
2. It will end up that the truck was not on FSD - she might have thought it was but we know.
3. This FUD hurts all of us
4. Tesla/Musk "deep pockets" but this Liawyer will soon learn Musk doesn't settle.

Article https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...ck-nearly-drive-mom-baby-off-overpass-lawsuit

A Texas woman is suing Tesla for a million dollars, claiming her Cybertruck crashed while it was in self-driving mode.





Musk responds:

Musk has now responded directly to those claims, saying on X that internal data shows Autopilot (or FSD, as Autopilot has never been available on the Cybertruck) was disengaged 4 seconds before impact.

“Logs show driver disengaged Autopilot four seconds before crashing,” Musk said, adding, “As anyone knows who uses it, that video is not how Autopilot drives.”

According to Musk’s comments, the vehicle was under full manual control during the critical moments leading up to the collision, from around this frame in the video.

This detail is significant, as it directly challenges the central claim in the lawsuit—that the Cybertruck was operating autonomously when it veered off course.

In the footage, the Cybertruck initially appears to follow the curve of the overpass before abruptly continuing straight, and perhaps even accelerating into the barrier, which could indicate driver confusion or a delayed reaction.

The plaintiff’s legal team maintains that the system failed and that the driver attempted to regain control too late to avoid the crash. The lawsuit also alleges Tesla misrepresented the capabilities of its driver-assistance technology and failed to implement sufficient safety redundancies.

While Musk posted his comments on X, Tesla has not formally responded to the lawsuit, and the case remains in its early stages. The case will likely continue, and as more telemetry data becomes available through discovery, a clearer picture of what happened in the moments before the crash is likely to emerge. - (via Drivetesla)

Anyone that has driven with FSD knows this was "pilot error" B.S. not FSD that caused the crash. Notice the 15 mph sign? What part of "supervised" does she not understand?

 

[Cactusrick]

So you're telling me I can go crash my cybertruck and then tell the news it was FSD and they will just cover it and treat it like a real story? No proof needed just my pinkie promise? Thats amazing.

exactly - never take responsibility when you can blame the vehicle.....I wish her and her lawyer had to cover the attorney fees of Tesla when they lose. Of course the true story will be buried by the media...

 

[AlDente]

Not getting political, but I would put politicians at the bottom

There ARE good lawyers. And you will eventually need one, for any number of reasons.

Most politicians are lawyers ...

 

[CyberGus]

Of course the true story will be buried by the media...

Accusations are juicy. Acquittals are not (except maybe OJ lol)

 

[TruckDaddy]

Every case like this should be thrown out of court. YOU are responsible for driving no matter what.

I can't tell you how many times I've taken over for potholes, debris, edge cases. I did have FSD swerve around a dead, small animal last week, smashed flat already, and 2 people in the car were both impressed.

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