NeuroHUD - Heads up display HUD & Home link??!! This seems tailor made for CT!

[dalton108]

I think there is skepticism because there is no corrective medium to correctly display the image on the windshield. I imagine the creators are considering this already, otherwise it’s a non-starter instead of a kick starter .

I understand that and I am being only a little bit facetious. How do we know, by looking at, it that:

(1) the light shooting out of the device is not collimated? There’s no special coating on the glass of my C8 Corvette (nor was there any on my C7) both have perfectly serviceable heads-up displays. So, I’m assuming that in each case they are ‘codiscombobulated’ at the projection source built into the dash? How do we know that’s not the case here?

(2) I remember in the 80s one of the features that Nissan started shipping on their Altima‘s to make them seem luxurious was heads-up displays. If I remember correctly there was some sort of sticker that they just slapped on the windshield that now I can assume was related to this problem. It almost looked like a fennel lens that they glued onto the glass right above the projector. How do we know they haven’t done/intend to do that?

(3) What does any of this have to do with the alternative set up where you’ve got that little piece of plexiglass that actually sticks up in your field of view?

(4) How big of a problem is this on a typical ground level commute versus flying at 40,000 feet? Considering the proliferation of apps that just reverse your phone screen image so that you can project it onto your windshield?

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[dalton108]

The flip up screen is the combiner, that should work fine and there are always aftermarket (or maybe it will include) a combiner film. The video doesn't show one, but that doesn't mean there isn't. I don't think collimation is as critical, since we're all already refocusing on the center screen so much. It can be a little more of an issue for some people since the HUD is usually in your line of vision.

Thank you!

I don’t think the screen flips up. It has two completely different modes that you can choose from what I can tell. One uses the screen, the other projects on your windshield.

You’ve also already answered some of my subsequent questions. Thanks a lot!

 

[eswimm]

You’ve also already answered some of my subsequent questions. Thanks a lot!

I'll definitely be buying one if it works as advertised. Not having a HUD is I think one of the biggest misses Tesla has made, it's the #1 thing I miss from my BMWs.

 

[SlegMD]

On their kickstarter page there is a “what’s in the box” section which mentions a film, at the bottom.

Edit hmm link is fubar

 

[Cactusrick]

There a way to contact them? I would love for them to add a little blind spot indicator on each corner in this area. One of my peeves…

NM found contact haha, look at me giving pre-user feedback in sure they will love that

That would be great. I believe it does have the blind spot capability. I took my mirrors off about a year ago and somehow my vision now picks up on the red dot of the front speakers...or maybe it's because, 95% of the time, I'm on FSD...and Nirvana.

 

[65SoYoLO]

It looks, to me, that the device will block the view of the display...?

 

[eswimm]

It looks, to me, that the device will block the view of the display...?

Looks like there's a camera that clips on the top of the display, which (I assume) is how it reads info that isn't available through the API.

 

[technut7]

That's the problem with this implementation. Instead of tapping into the main CPU module, it relies on optical scanning of your screen. That means it is reliant on the cleanliness of the screen, the type of screen protector that you are using and the ambient light/reflections - oh, and cleanliness of their camera lens - don't let your dog lick it, lol. Notice that the camera is positioned at the top left of the screen where you have your speed, charge, temp, etc. It will have a problem seeing what is on the center and right side of the screen, but they do show that it can see the turn direction indications from the top of the nav portion of the display. Blind spot capability would have to trigger on the visual representation of the cars turning red. They state that there is no disassembly. It does access the Tesla API but that is via the Internet like the Sentry Pro app, but there is a lag in that info because it has to travel from the vehicle to the Tesla server and then back to the NeuroHUD. It's a kluge in many ways to get past the complications of the interior disassembly and wiring harness solution that others use.

 

[dalton108]

On their kickstarter page there is a “what’s in the box” section which mentions a film, at the bottom.

Edit hmm link is fubar

That was quite the journey only to learn that the McGuffin (iambic pentamenator) was with us all long.

 

[SlegMD]

That was quite the journey only to learn that the McGuffin (iambic pentamenator) was with us all long.

At Least this one is useful, in the end!

There is one problem with this project that I am concerned about though; the glare from the vent on the far end of the windshield may occlude visual clarity.

 

[dalton108]

At Least this one is useful, in the end!

There is one problem with this project that I am concerned about though; the glare from the vent on the far end of the windshield may occlude visual clarity.

It’s going to be interesting to see how their approach to reading the screen is going to work as well. I’m not sure I won’t find that downward pointing camera to be obnoxious in my periphery. We shall see.

They hit all the right points in the video that I’m concerned about. What happens if Tesla changes the UI layout? Etc. It’s a very interesting approach to AI and of course the other question is how bad is the lag? Will the device hold up to the desert heat where I’m at? Etc.

99 problems, but a “covalent confoundificator” ain’t one.

*The other problem I can forsee for these guys is when Apple (or someone, but probably Apple) comes along and realizes that they can do the same thing in their eventual mixed reality glasses rendering devices like this completely unnecessary if you’re wearing your … AppleEyze™️

 

[freyguy]

I made a post to their Reddit with some of my concerns I hope they have some good answers for me.

 

[KryptosXLayer2]

I made a post to their Reddit with some of my concerns I hope they have some good answers for me.

Did you get any response on Reddit? I'm in their private group page on Facebook and asked a similar question:

Really looking forward to this for my Cybertruck. Here are some stock images of the dash, where are we mounting these and how long are the USB cables to run it under the dash? I have plenty of power switched with the truck under the screen in the lower center console, but getting there is going to be tricky, not impossible by any means. Just wanted some thought process formed for Cybertruck owners since this is said to be compatible and I haven't seen any posts about it yet. Thanks!

They responded only once so far:

The device is mounted on the dashboard using 3M double-sided adhesive. The cable is 3 meters long, which is enough to route from the visual blind spot area to the computing box, and then from the computing box to the power source. The Type-C ports inside the Cybertruck can provide power, and 65W is more than enough for our device.

At the moment, we haven’t taken real in-car installation photos for the Cybertruck, mainly because no one on our team owns one, so we have to rent one each time, which makes things a bit more difficult. That said, we’ve already verified that our Tesla data integration approach can be adapted to the Cybertruck smoothly.

My issue with that clearly is:

This unfortunately won't work to stick the HUD with 3M double sided, the entire dash on the Cybertruck is a cloth with synthetic suede or a rubberized top piece, closer to the steering wheel. But beyond the hump in the photos where the HUD should be mounted is all cloth.

Others have mounted a Starlink mini to that area using magnets, and that could certainly be an option to build or attach under the Neurohud, but will require lifting sections of the dash up in order to route wires to. As I was planning to do so anyways in anticipation of the Starlink mini going there and eventually this HUD, I have no problem with that, but others may if they were considering for any reason that they were going to have a plug-and-play, mount it and forget it option for their Cybertrucks.

They haven't replied to it yet and the Kickstarter launch is tomorrow. Definitely like the concept of this, like where it is going, LOVE that it has a garage door opener built-in, but...... if they think this is going to mount to the fabric dash using 3M double sided tape, they're wrong. I'm all for attaching magnets to that via 3M tape, but they have to be in the right placement to align to the dash, ridiculously heavy duty so that in the event of a front end collision at high speed, this thing isn't a projectile coming directly at my face!

Anyone else have any thoughts on mounting?

 

[SlegMD]

Did you get any response on Reddit? I'm in their private group page on Facebook and asked a similar question:



They responded only once so far:



My issue with that clearly is:



They haven't replied to it yet and the Kickstarter launch is tomorrow. Definitely like the concept of this, like where it is going, LOVE that it has a garage door opener built-in, but...... if they think this is going to mount to the fabric dash using 3M double sided tape, they're wrong. I'm all for attaching magnets to that via 3M tape, but they have to be in the right placement to align to the dash, ridiculously heavy duty so that in the event of a front end collision at high speed, this thing isn't a projectile coming directly at my face!

Anyone else have any thoughts on mounting?

This is news to me, regarding install.

That said, some individuals have slid a thin piece of metal under the elevated portion to more securely secure a Mini, on the side of the windshield toward the driver, this idea may be my first thought.

I would add I have not tried this personally

Looking forward to others troubleshooting

 

[HighTechJoe]

Any additional answers on this come? I’d like to back it… but if it isn’t really going to work in our CT then I don’t want to waste the money…

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