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Probably wanted to try it after seeing the success of this guy from last year. Man the poor CT gets alot of bad press from its own owners.

It's exhausting think of how dumb you have to be to make this choice to drive your truck into something that deep. Then we deal with CT owners putting the entire pledge of allegiance and the 10 commandments on their trucks with crappy wraps like the V6 charger scene. Bad apples really get showcased and amplified because of clicks. There are some amazing CTs out there but they get overshadowed by dumb shit like this.
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One thing I learnt from this was that the wading depth isn’t as large as I would have imagined. The new Defender can wade deeper.

in general I’ve been surprised that EVs don’t do better, given the lack of a need for an air intake. But the battery cooling system (often low on the car) seems to be a factor.
 


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One thing I learnt from this was that the wading depth isn’t as large as I would have imagined. The new Defender can wade deeper.

in general I’ve been surprised that EVs don’t do better, given the lack of a need for an air intake. But the battery cooling system (often low on the car) seems to be a factor.
I mean the CT is not competing with a Defender since thats not a pickup however its a precise number so it should've been already understood based on the specs. Wade depth is 32 inches which is fantastic. Defender is not a pickup truck kinda of left field. If you get the Air suspension is 35.4 standard Defender is 33.5 all within the same ball park.

CT would compare to its own kind of trucks
Ram TRX 32 inches wade depth
Ford Raptor 32 inches but with the higher tire package 34

Thats more of a real comparison not a defender lol thats why your probably not impressed your looking at another class of vehicle.
 
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I mean the CT is not competing with a Defender since thats not a pickup however its a precise number so it should've been already understood based on the specs. Wade depth is 32 inches which is fantastic. Defender is not a pickup truck kinda of left field. If you get the Air suspension is 35.4 standard Defender is 33.5 all within the same ball park.

CT would compare to its own kind of trucks
Ram TRX 32 inches wade depth
Ford Raptor 32 inches but with the higher tire package 34

Thats more of a real comparison not a defender lol thats why your probably not impressed your looking at another class of vehicle.
The CT actually beats all those vehicles because while they technically can wade those numbers, they need to install additional diff breathers to actually do it without injesting water into the three diffs and transmission. I'm not sure why they advertise those numbers without explaining it requires additional modifications, which will lead to people damaging their vehicles if they don't already know.
 
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I mean the CT is not competing with a Defender since thats not a pickup however its a precise number so it should've been already understood based on the specs. Wade depth is 32 inches which is fantastic. Defender is not a pickup truck kinda of left field. If you get the Air suspension is 35.4 standard Defender is 33.5 all within the same ball park.

CT would compare to its own kind of trucks
Ram TRX 32 inches wade depth
Ford Raptor 32 inches but with the higher tire package 34

Thats more of a real comparison not a defender lol thats why your probably not impressed your looking at another class of vehicle.
Regardless of class I just wonder what is the main reason an EV wouldn’t be outperforming an ICE car. That is what surprises me.
 

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Regardless of class, I just wonder what the main reason an EV wouldn’t be outperforming an ICE car is. That is what surprises me.
Well, it does actually zoom out a bit. There are many, many pick trucks below that far-below-threshold, not even on the same range, so I'm unsure of your perspective here; also, many require additional hardware to reach the upper limits. CT just has a button to pressurize a pack. The limiting factor in an EV is the battery pack's water seal (most EVs do not have the ability to pressurize the pack). The limiting factor in an ICE car is the intake. Pretty basic stuff. Actually, if you want to educate yourself a bit more, there are Chinese EVs SUVs that far outpace ICE trucks by being able to actually drive into water and navigate they have fully sealed packs and water goes up to the window line. China is already providing you an answer good sir just need to zoom out.
 

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Well, it does actually zoom out a bit. There are many, many pick trucks below that far-below-threshold, not even on the same range, so I'm unsure of your perspective here; also, many require additional hardware to reach the upper limits. CT just has a button to pressurize a pack. The limiting factor in an EV is the battery pack's water seal (most EVs do not have the ability to pressurize the pack). The limiting factor in an ICE car is the intake. Pretty basic stuff. Actually, if you want to educate yourself a bit more, there are Chinese EVs SUVs that far outpace ICE trucks by being able to actually drive into water and navigate they have fully sealed packs and water goes up to the window line. China is already providing you an answer good sir just need to zoom out.
Lol China does not have any such thing. Byd is just a clone of stolen blueprints from Tesla. Even when they have the blueprints, they still can't figure out the production quality part of the equation.

ICE is limited by more than just the intake. You have to add breather tubes for the diffs and transmission above the waterline. Most of the electrical for the spark plugs and engine sensors aren't waterproof though.
 

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Lol China does not have any such thing. Byd is just a clone of stolen blueprints from Tesla. Even when they have the blueprints, they still can't figure out the production quality part of the equation.

ICE is limited by more than just the intake. You have to add breather tubes for the diffs and transmission above the waterline. Most of the electrical for the spark plugs and engine sensors aren't waterproof though.
We are speaking generally, the largest concern on ICE trucks is intake. If you want a white paper response, we can Grok that for easier understanding of the finer details. For us, as prior 4 Runner owners, we are just concerned with Intakes for wading and, of course, vent lines, but the first move is Intakes. It all depends on how deep you are going with being submerged.

With all due respect, have you been to China recently? I would recommend getting up to speed you seem to be outdated on their releases. BYDs production rate is to be respected even Toyota's CEO stated that they are fighitng for their lives as a company against companies like BYD because they cannot compete scale wise. I wouldnt be so cocky especially if you havent been to China. I look foward to going back this year as Shenzen is simply incredible.

I love Tesla and im all in on their space but Chinese EVs have surpassed Tesla in terms of features and scale. We know the subsidy of course and the government influence. But one cannot deny their prowess. I would have to say Tesla maintains FSD leads and still a product i prefer, but I will state that if you have actually been in a Chinese BYD or others, you will see quality is not an issue anymore as in the past.

The lines have blurred and since Tesla is moving away from personal cars the GAP will get worse. Only a matter of time.

I want Tesla to make newer cars , but Tesla seems to not want to.
 
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The CT does pretty well through water in wading videos but lakes or oceans are a different situation and does anyone expect any non amphibious vehicle to be able to do a lake?
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