My Cybertruck closeups: front bumper camera & passenger door button (spotted at Tesla Service Center)

[wtibbit]

Those guys had a lot of reasons to love that plane and that sound.

When I was in the USAF on a TDY to Davis-Monthan AFB, I noticed a sign added - probably temporarily - above the 355th Tactical Training Wing's headquarters entrance (training for all the A-10 operations at that time).

It read: "No Aircraft is too ugly for a brave pilot to fly."

The CT may be ugly in the eyes of some, but we're brave enough to drive one!

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[Coolbreeze704]

Those guys had a lot of reasons to love that plane and that sound.

When I was in the USAF on a TDY to Davis-Monthan AFB, I noticed a sign added - probably temporarily - above the 355th Tactical Training Wing's headquarters entrance (training for all the A-10 operations at that time).

It read: "No Aircraft is too ugly for a brave pilot to fly."

The CT may be ugly in the eyes of some, but we're brave enough to drive one!

A-10 wrap on CT? That would get the attention of any car you pull up on.

 

[PilotPete]

Those guys had a lot of reasons to love that plane and that sound.

When I was in the USAF on a TDY to Davis-Monthan AFB, I noticed a sign added - probably temporarily - above the 355th Tactical Training Wing's headquarters entrance (training for all the A-10 operations at that time).

It read: "No Aircraft is too ugly for a brave pilot to fly."

The CT may be ugly in the eyes of some, but we're brave enough to drive one!

I was at Edwards for 5 years. the AFFTC used A-10s in their training, and then went out with the Ford Ord tanks and blew the crap out of stuff in the desert. Then all the A-10s left for the sandbox. Once you've heard that sound, you never forget it. Of course, if your a bad guy, you're toast before the sound gets to you!

I want an F117 wrap for my CT! First, it looks like one. Second is sentimental.

 

[DaveDUtah]

This seems irrelevant, as the screen is LEDs, but also... The screen can't get that bright?

Oh, it get's plenty bright. On my Pixel 7 Pro it is so bright that at night, if I don't have my finger completely covering the "sensor" area of the screen when I use it, I'm almost blinded by the uncovered portion.

 

[Crissa]

Oh, it get's plenty bright. On my Pixel 7 Pro it is so bright that at night, if I don't have my finger completely covering the "sensor" area of the screen when I use it, I'm almost blinded by the uncovered portion.

That's true of my 6 Pro, too, which is why I really felt that it was augmented somehow.

Either way, it's brightest where it's trying to see your fingerprint.

-Crissa

 

[wtibbit]

Perhaps it is off center to make room for a front license plate..?‍

No "perhaps" about this, LCS. You're correct.

Look at this image from the recent front tow hooks thread. (You can ignore the red arrows pointing to the tow hooks.) The designers placed camera housing as close to the center as possible while avoiding interference with the license plate area.

It will interesting to see if the image processing software translates and transforms the center camera image to appear to come from the centerline of the truck.

 

[PilotPete]

In looking at the front lower camera, I see something interesting. It has been mentioned elsewhere there is a small opening at the top above the camera.

In the windshield, we have wipers to clean the windshield for the upper front facing cameras. But what about the bumper mount camera?

On some aircraft, we have vents at the bottom of the windscreen that blow pressurized air up the windscreen when we have heavy rain, morning dew, melted ice, or whatever we need to clear off for visibility.

Since the CT has pressurized air onboard for the suspension, what if that opening was a vent to blow the bumper-cam clear? All you would need is 20+psi of directed air to blast that baby clean! I could be wrong, but it would make sense.

 

[jsongster]

I was told it was high def finger print sensor before

narrator:

it was an led.

also the housing and placement of that bumper camera is so ridiculous.

Seems its main purpose is to avoid curbs etc…

 

[jsongster]

In looking at the front lower camera, I see something interesting. It has been mentioned elsewhere there is a small opening at the top above the camera.

In the windshield, we have wipers to clean the windshield for the upper front facing cameras. But what about the bumper mount camera?

On some aircraft, we have vents at the bottom of the windscreen that blow pressurized air up the windscreen when we have heavy rain, morning dew, melted ice, or whatever we need to clear off for visibility.

Since the CT has pressurized air onboard for the suspension, what if that opening was a vent to blow the bumper-cam clear? All you would need is 20+psi of directed air to blast that baby clean! I could be wrong, but it would make sense.

It has a squirt wash function…

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

Regardless of how many detractors try to paint Tesla as being haphazard and inexperienced at everything and everything automotive, you can rest assured that there is always a reasoned and rational method to the apparent madness. And the detractors know deep down inside that it is Detroit who needs help, not Tesla.

There you go again, Tesla good, others bad.

Don't you find it exhausting?

Putting down others, so your team can look good.

Detroit used to be the best, dominating the world market. Boeing too, who lost their way with arrogance, extreme penny-pinching, inability to adapt and lack of vision.

Now they are (and trying) to catch up and ahead in some when they used to be teased as decades behind.

I love my Cybertruck but if you don't think there nothing haphazard on it, then why the multiple breakdowns, e-glitches, undelivered components and paid-for pricey features.

And the latest, the easily-punctured and scratched cheap thin plastic bumper of this supposedly luxury $110K truck.

 

[HaulingAss]

There you go again, Tesla good, others bad.

Don't you find it exhausting?

Putting down others, so your team can look good.

Detroit used to be the best, dominating the world market. Boeing too, who lost their way with arrogance, extreme penny-pinching, inability to adapt and lack of vision.

Now they are (and trying) to catch up and ahead in some when they used to be teased as decades behind.

I love my Cybertruck but if you don't think there nothing haphazard on it, then why the multiple breakdowns, e-glitches, undelivered components and paid-for pricey features.

And the latest, the easily-punctured and scratched cheap thin plastic bumper of this supposedly luxury $110K truck.

Your bumper cover is lightweight for the very reasoned and rational reasons I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean everyone will agree it's the best solution, just that Tesla uses reason and rationality to inform their choices. Another person might think the bumper cover should be made of the same ultra hard steel the body panels are made of. There are rational reasons why that might be good too. But, in the end, it is the manufacture who gets to decide what makes the most sense. It doesn't mean you will agree with it.

Should the bumper cover weigh three times as much and cost ten times as much? It would need replacement less often, but would it be 10 times less often? Would it be as safe? Would it be as aero and look as good?

You see, there is never one right answer, only opinions. My point was that Tesla's opinions are informed using logic and reason. It doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

Doesn't it get exhausting thinking your way is always the right way for everyone else? When you have a car company of your own, all the details can align with what YOU think is best. Until then, you are powerless to decide, except to the extent that you can vote with your pocketbook. I would think you would find it exhausting to always be buying things you disagree with so much.

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

Your bumper cover is lightweight for the very reasoned and rational reasons I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean everyone will agree it's the best solution, just that Tesla uses reason and rationality to inform their choices. Another person might think the bumper cover should be made of the same ultra hard steel the body panels are made of. There are rational reasons why that might be good too. But, in the end, it is the manufacture who gets to decide what makes the most sense. It doesn't mean you will agree with it.

Should the bumper cover weigh three times as much and cost ten times as much? It would need replacement less often, but would it be 10 times less often? Would it be as safe? Would it be as aero and look as good?

You see, there is never one right answer, only opinions. My point was that Tesla's opinions are informed using logic and reason. It doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

Doesn't it get exhausting thinking your way is always the right way for everyone else? When you have a car company of your own, all the details can align with what YOU think is best. Until then, you are powerless to decide, except to the extent that you can vote with your pocketbook. I would think you would find it exhausting to always be buying things you disagree with so much.

And there your go again in monochromic thought process and Hollywood drama-queen exaggerations and inability to think in between your black-or-white world.

It doesn't have to be heavy steel. And I would think there is a light material between the cheap thin easy-scratched and puncture plastic.

You yourself have mentioned it with Detroit. Customers have a way of noticing where their pocketbooks went in droves to Japanese cars and where they lost their dominance globally.

And learn nuances, I just said in the post I love my Cybertruck, but with it, I am frustrated with undelivered paid-for items and featured, very concerned about mech and e-breakdowns -- and I still agree with @Crissa that Elon is now toxic to the brand specially with his latest antics from his X posts (again, not going into political or judicial issues here as Admin wisely mandates) hurting too Tesla's stock prices.

 

[HaulingAss]

And there your go again in monochromic thought process and Hollywood drama-queen exaggerations and inability to think in between your black-or-white world.

It doesn't have to be heavy steel. And I would think there is a light material between the cheap thin easy-scratched and puncture plastic.

You yourself have mentioned it with Detroit. Customers have a way of noticing where their pocketbooks went in droves to Japanese cars and where they lost their dominance globally.

And learn nuances, I just said in the post I love my Cybertruck, but with it, I am frustrated with undelivered paid-for items and featured, very concerned about mech and e-breakdowns -- and I still agree with @Crissa that Elon is now toxic to the brand specially with his latest antics from his X posts (again, not going into political or judicial issues here as Admin wisely mandates) hurting too Tesla's stock prices.

Tesla's stock price is doing far better than the autocompanies that have "non-toxic" leaders unless you want to cherry-pick some short-term prices. In the short-term the stock market is a voting machine, in the long term it reflects the value created. And Tesla, under Elon's leadership, has created unfathomably more value than any of the legacy automakers.

If I had invested in Ford or GM in 2019, they would have barely appreciated. Under Elon, Tesla is worth far over ten times as much as I paid (and that's after the declines you are so focused on). Any investor worth his salt knows the highflyers are more volatile, they go higher, they correct lower. This is normal and expected. Attributing it to Elon being "toxic" just shows how gullible you are to the mainstream media narratives and fake news.

I'm not sure why you are so concerned about the thin, lightwight bumper cover, it's just an aero cover. Even an old school chrome or painted steel bumper would have been damaged by the sharp object that punctured the thin plastic cover. Then it would have started to rust. You say you love your Cybertruck but are frustrated by things like this. Why don't you just buy a truck that doesn't have all the percieved downsides of the Cybertruck? Or would you complain endlessly about them too?

Time to start your own auto company so you can show Elon, and the rest, how to do it. Until then, you are stuck with what others bring to market, and none of the options will make you happy. I guarantee it. Because no product can make an unhappy person into a happy person. It's never good enough for them. Something to think about.

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

Tesla's stock price is doing far better than the autocompanies that have "non-toxic" leaders unless you want to cherry-pick some short-term prices. In the short-term the stock market is a voting machine, in the long term it reflects the value created. And Tesla, under Elon's leadership, has created unfathomably more value than any of the legacy automakers.

If I had invested in Ford or GM in 2019, they would have barely appreciated. Under Elon, Tesla is worth far over ten times as much as I paid (and that's after the declines you are so focused on). Any investor worth his saWhy don't you just buy a truck that doesn't have all the percieved downsides of the Cybertruck? Or would you complain endlessly about them too?

Time to start your own auto company so you can show Elon, and the rest, how to do it. Until then, you are stuck with what others bring to market, and none of the options will make you happy. I guarantee it. Because no product can make an unhappy person into a happy person. It's never good enough for them. Something to think about.

Why don't you just buy a truck that doesn't have all the percieved downsides of the Cybertruck? Or would you complain endlessly about them too?

Time to start your own auto company so you can show Elon, and the rest, how to do it. Until then, you are stuck with what others bring to market, and none of the options will make you happy. I guarantee it. Because no product can make an unhappy person into a happy person. It's never good enough for them. Something to think about.

This is just funny as well as pathetic.

You have a knack for awarding most stupid post here. I think you should keep the trophy for this one.

And another for Most Inane.

Similar to discussions I had on comparative economic system of democratic-socialist Nordic countries. The retort is why did I not just move there, also your "why do you hate America" mind set. My answer, duh, I only work for their company and have seen it myself. So since we are here, why don't we work together to emulate so none of our own people would go bankrupt for medical bills, etc.


BTW, I like also your "investor worth it's salt". In that case, I must br worth a whole salt lake and several camels -- by Bedouin analogy having done it several decades in both corporate and personal singing off multi-million investments in manufacturing plants, investing the company's funds, it's employee retirement trust fund, foreign currencies...

If you have the salts in investing and stocks, you should have also known you "can't live in yesterday's glory ...nor promises". Money not generating profit is a loss, even by just time value. And anything that was up before and now down, by keeping it is simply "dead money".

 

[HaulingAss]

I like also your "investor worth it's salt". In that case, I must br worth a whole salt lake and several camels -- by Bedouin analogy having done it several decades in both corporate and personal singing off multi-million investments in manufacturing plants, investing the company's funds, it's employee retirement trust fund, foreign currencies...

If you have the salts, you should have also known you "can't live in yesterday's glory ...nor promises". Money not generating profit is a loss, even by just time value. And anything that was up before and now down, by keeping it is simply "dead money".

Braggarts bore me.

You remind me of the person at the party who criticizes every choice the host made, from the music to the wine, even to the day he decided to hold it. Because you could have done it better.

If you want a better party, throw it yourself. I find your brags and complaints boring and self-aggrandizing. Which I could understand if you were the one who brought us the Cybertruck. But you didn't, the man you criticize did it.

Does that make you feel better about yourself? I bet it does.

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