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Tesla: "To maintain service life, the battery pack should be stored at a state of charge (SOC) of 15 to 50%."
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But you’re the one confusing the very basics of storage SOC with daily use SOC ?
Please explain what the basics are then.
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I've been driving Teslas since 2017, mostly on long trips (SF->LA, LA->Vegas), granted there are Superchargers just about anywhere here, but I've never come close to requiring a tow.

Same. And my first one was a 75d, back when there were only 5 superchargers in Missouri. There were a few whiteknuckle drives but never ran out.

I run mine at 80%- 90% unless I am on a trip and although i have free supercharging, most of my charging is done at home or work- 220v, 24A. My 2018 MS has almost 45k miles, battery capacity is down a tad over 10% which is expected.

The battery packs are better than advertised and newer batteries are better tech. I would call Tesla for roadside assistance but I have AAA for backup.

Worrying just steals your joy. Generally speaking, I am not a worrier so can't help you with that except to say that 90% of what we worry about never happens so I quote the legendary Alfred E. Neuman: "What, Me worry?"
 
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Please explain what the basics are then.
If state of charge storage is to be between 15-50% then it very basically means that.

it doesn‘t mean only charge to and thus start your day with that SOC. It means ideally your destination and where the vehicle will sit over a period of time should be in that range.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging your battery up to 80% If the intention is to use it.
 

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Tesla: "To maintain service life, the battery pack should be stored at a state of charge (SOC) of 15 to 50%."
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If state of charge storage is to be between 15-50% then it very basically means that.

it doesn‘t mean only charge to and thus start your day with that SOC. It means ideally your destination and where the vehicle will sit over a period of time should be in that range.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging your battery up to 80% If the intention is to use it.
No one is saying otherwise. If you need 80% then charge to 80%.

The problem is people like the OP that blindly charge to 80%, leave it fully charged overnight, drive only 10% the next day, then fully recharge it again.

You are reading too much into what's being said. Like that hauling ass guy that doesn't understand the difference between State of Charge (SOC) and Depth of Discharge (DOD). The two are different and we're talking about one not the other.
 

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No one is saying otherwise. If you need 80% then charge to 80%.

The problem is people like the OP that blindly charge to 80%, leave it fully charged overnight, drive only 10% the next day, then fully recharge it again.

You are reading too much into what's being said. Like that hauling ass guy that doesn't understand the difference between State of Charge (SOC) and Depth of Discharge (DOD). The two are different and we're talking about one not the other.
I agree with that. However, earlier in this thread you implied he’s ruining his battery. He’s not. He may experience slightly quicker degradation. Same can be said for any vehicle or any tangible item on planet earth for that matter. Something that gets used and enjoyed will degrade faster than something that is babied. I’m confused on you mentioning there is a problem. There is no problem here.

I don’t feel like I’m reading too much into anything. He’s new to EV’s. He likes his battery charged. There’s a learning curve going from ICE to EV. We all know this and you chose to be a douche bag.
 

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The problem is people like the OP that blindly charge to 80%, leave it fully charged overnight, drive only 10% the next day, then fully recharge it again.
I think the push back is that even Tesla says charging to 80%, regardless of what you are going to do the next day is ok. People have charged to 80% for the life of their cars and have very little range loss.

I think we can acknowledge that 80% is not the BEST, but it's also not damaging your car. If that's what you feel comfortable with, it's within the Tesla recommendation.

In the end you want to treat it like a car and you never know what will pop up the next day.
 


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Tesla: "To maintain service life, the battery pack should be stored at a state of charge (SOC) of 15 to 50%."
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I agree with that. However, earlier in this thread you implied he’s ruining his battery. He’s not. He may experience slightly quicker degradation. Same can be said for any vehicle or any tangible item on planet earth for that matter. Something that gets used and enjoyed will degrade faster than something that is babied. I’m confused on you mentioning there is a problem. There is no problem here.
Difference of semantics. Someone that needs to drive with 80% is ruining their battery faster than someone that only needs 30%-50%. That's a simple statement of fact not an insult.
 

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Tesla: "To maintain service life, the battery pack should be stored at a state of charge (SOC) of 15 to 50%."
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I think the push back is that even Tesla says charging to 80%, regardless of what you are going to do the next day is ok.
They used to say 90%. Why did they drop it to 80%? Why does the service manual say 15% to 50%? If you read between the lines it's obvious. They can't openly tell customers to only charge to 50%, they would get the attacks I'm receiving now.
 

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I am enjoying my CT very much and preparing to sell my previous car.

I feel like if something goes wrong, I will be totally stranded with CT more than a gas-powered car; this is due to my lack of experience and ignorance. The fear is running out of battery or some electronic failure on a freeway. I think I won't have issues with running out of battery since I check it often, and I am a daily commuter and keep it plugged into the 80% limit at home. I have read that I need to request a flatbed tow, and that's another layer of this unknown fear - none are available. If you had any experience with CT being towed, would you share your story so I can put my getting-old mind at ease?
First of all, congrats on getting you CT!! Wish we had ours... But I do have my Model Y-LR...

Get over the range anxiety... FIRST, keep your display showing percentage instead of miles... You know, just like your old car's gas gauge right? Full, 3/4 full, 1/2, 1/4, etc... After a couple of weeks you will probably quit looking at it except when you first hop in for a drive...

Next, realize that YOU ARE FREE!! No more having to drive somewhere to get FUEL!! You can get it at home!! EVERY SINGLE DAY!! And it's EASIER too! No more credit cards to deal with (even at Superchargers!), just park in garage or driveway, plug in and go inside and eat dinner, watch TV, go to bed, whatever and in the morning you're all ready to go, even proper temperature inside, windows defrosted/defogged, etc... Gotta love it!!

As to having problems on the freeway, well, you will probably start noticing (if you look) that MOST cars pulled to the side are GAS cars!! Same with cars in accidents... Mostly GAS cars!! Now some would say, "yeah, but that's because there aren't that many EVs on the road" - well, I live in Southern California and trust me, I see Tesla's, ioniq's, BMWs and others ALL OVER THE PLACE!! SOOOoooo many Tesla's!! Even at work, I once had someone try to open the back of my Model Y and, turns out, it was because she thought it was HER CAR!! She had the same model, same color and it was parked 3 spots over from mine!

Point is, cars DO break down... But EVs don't break down or 'run out of fuel' as easily and you will notice that if you just look...

As to the towing... Call TESLA if there's a problem... If they want/need to tow you in, then it's up to THEM to send the proper tow vehicle... you shouldn't have to ask...
 
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First of all, congrats on getting you CT!! Wish we had ours... But I do have my Model Y-LR...

Get over the range anxiety... FIRST, keep your display showing percentage instead of miles... You know, just like your old car's gas gauge right? Full, 3/4 full, 1/2, 1/4, etc... After a couple of weeks you will probably quit looking at it except when you first hop in for a drive...

Next, realize that YOU ARE FREE!! No more having to drive somewhere to get FUEL!! You can get it at home!! EVERY SINGLE DAY!! And it's EASIER too! No more credit cards to deal with (even at Superchargers!), just park in garage or driveway, plug in and go inside and eat dinner, watch TV, go to bed, whatever and in the morning you're all ready to go, even proper temperature inside, windows defrosted/defogged, etc... Gotta love it!!

As to having problems on the freeway, well, you will probably start noticing (if you look) that MOST cars pulled to the side are GAS cars!! Same with cars in accidents... Mostly GAS cars!! Now some would say, "yeah, but that's because there aren't that many EVs on the road" - well, I live in Southern California and trust me, I see Tesla's, ioniq's, BMWs and others ALL OVER THE PLACE!! SOOOoooo many Tesla's!! Even at work, I once had someone try to open the back of my Model Y and, turns out, it was because she thought it was HER CAR!! She had the same model, same color and it was parked 3 spots over from mine!

Point is, cars DO break down... But EVs don't break down or 'run out of fuel' as easily and you will notice that if you just look...

As to the towing... Call TESLA if there's a problem... If they want/need to tow you in, then it's up to THEM to send the proper tow vehicle... you shouldn't have to ask...
Thank you for this; you took the time to make me feel much better after reading so many insightful posts. I am much more at ease and enjoying it. I knew I wanted an EV, and I have always liked trucks. I reserved CT 5+ years ago when it was revealed to the world, and it was worth the wait. I did not know that Tesla was a great car until I drove it.
 

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keep it plugged into the 80% limit at home.
We have a 2013 model s that has >175,000 miles. 265 miles range when new and 250 miles now. Charged to 80% for most of those miles, and half of those miles supercharging. If it makes you more comfortable to charge to 80% you’re likely not going to hurt much.
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