Vision Autopark + Hands Free Frunk rolling out in 2024.32.5.3 Update now!!

[rtfitch]

same... waiting...

This is where we are as of this morning, very few installs yesterday, 9/24:

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[Coagulation]

This is where we are as of this morning, very few installs yesterday, 9/24:

Where is this data from?

 

[rtfitch]

Where is this data from?

TeslaFi...great window into what is going on with everyone who is logging with their process.

 

[rtfitch]

Where is this data from?

 

[Stuck4ger]

Two incidents with Auto Frunk Opening:

1. While adjusting the PSI to inflate tires at Costco: frunk opens.
2. After self serving automatic touchless pressure wash I was drying out the front of the truck: frunk opens.

I have to keep moving a little to avoid it from opening.

Or put the phone in the car or turn off blue tooth while you futz around.

 

[Fausto]

I mean I got it on my MS Plaid pretty much when it first released and I don’t remember the exact date but it’s no more than a couple of months. Not “ages.”

I believe auto trunk was released around April. So to me, 5 months is ages.

 

[carsly]

Or put the phone in the car or turn off blue tooth while you futz around.

I'm still hanging tough on 2024.26.11 with no updates pending. But when my old Model S got the auto trunk it would beep three times to let you know it was going to open the trunk. If you moved away after the first or second beep then the trunk would not open and it would reset the counter. Never had an accidental opening as a result, not sure if it's the same on Cybertruck.

 

[Stuck4ger]

I'm still hanging tough on 2024.26.11 with no updates pending. But when my old Model S got the auto trunk it would beep three times to let you know it was going to open the trunk. If you moved away after the first or second beep then the trunk would not open and it would reset the counter. Never had an accidental opening as a result, not sure if it's the same on Cybertruck.

It is the same

 

[Tecyber1]

*checks phone every 2-3 minutes*

Waiting.......

 

[jameskk]

very few installs pushed out today, so far

 

[TeslaKen]

If you are a programmer working at Tesla, you had better be able to program both Apple and Android phone Apps competently, or you won't be working there long.

Complaining about how long it takes to come to one platform, or the other, is silly, because Tesla brings us more functionality, and they bring it quicker, than any legacy auto company that I'm aware of. They beat Rivian too in both functionality and frequency of substantial updates.

Where you see a problem, I see a company that no other can effectively compete against. I imagine when you were born you complained the lights were too bright, the room was too cold and it took too long for them to get your onesie on. As if the world revolved around you.

While I enjoy comedy as much as the next person, I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not complaining about Tesla releasing updates, as you pointed out, they release them faster and more often than any other manufacturer. What I was complaining about is that it ALWAYS seems to be that Android users get them after Apple users. If development was really done by developers who are writing code for both platforms, then statistically shouldn't sometimes Android user get features before Apple users? With the exception of NFC, it is always Apple before Android. Whether that's caused by Tesla, or by Google, or by Apple or all 3 conspiring together who knows... However, it does get "tedious" to receive emails from Tesla news sites, see posts on this and other Tesla forums about XYZ new feature only to find out that what the article should have said was "Apple users are getting feature X you Android folks go wait in the corner again..."

One way to alleviate this problem would be for Tesla not to send the OTA update to our cars until the required software is available for both platforms, so there are potential solutions to the issue, but I'm not sure anyone cares.

Now, as far as the world revolving around me, you are correct about that, being my parents only son which could also be spelled sun, that would seem to make me the gravitational center around which everything revolves, thanks for noticing! Oh, and to be clear, they were Spiderman PJs not a onesie, and I'm sure I still have them somewhere...

 

[TyPope]

 

[HaulingAss]

While I enjoy comedy as much as the next person, I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not complaining about Tesla releasing updates, as you pointed out, they release them faster and more often than any other manufacturer. What I was complaining about is that it ALWAYS seems to be that Android users get them after Apple users. If development was really done by developers who are writing code for both platforms, then statistically shouldn't sometimes Android user get features before Apple users? With the exception of NFC, it is always Apple before Android. Whether that's caused by Tesla, or by Google, or by Apple or all 3 conspiring together who knows... However, it does get "tedious" to receive emails from Tesla news sites, see posts on this and other Tesla forums about XYZ new feature only to find out that what the article should have said was "Apple users are getting feature X you Android folks go wait in the corner again..."

One way to alleviate this problem would be for Tesla not to send the OTA update to our cars until the required software is available for both platforms, so there are potential solutions to the issue, but I'm not sure anyone cares.

Now, as far as the world revolving around me, you are correct about that, being my parents only son which could also be spelled sun, that would seem to make me the gravitational center around which everything revolves, thanks for noticing! Oh, and to be clear, they were Spiderman PJs not a onesie, and I'm sure I still have them somewhere...

I don't track the Apple/Android release timing very carefully, but I know historically sometimes Android users get the increased functionality first by a few months. My best guess is that 75% of Tesla owners use Apple phones (Tesla will have the exact percentage at any given time).

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the release timing of the two versions is biased in proportion to how many people are on each platform? In any case, you are free to choose a different phone platform if you think it would serve you better overall.

But it would be absolutely foolish to hold back one app version from owners simply because they wanted everyone to get it at the same time. That would increase average wait times for no good reason, unless you consider perceived fairness a good reason.

 

[rudedawg78]

lol, I got my update a couple days ago (at night) actually...

It sucks for the others that haven't received it yet. I am curious if a majority of the people that haven't received it yet don't have their update setting set to "advanced"?

 

[TeslaKen]

I don't track the Apple/Android release timing very carefully, but I know historically sometimes Android users get the increased functionality first by a few months. My best guess is that 75% of Tesla owners use Apple phones (Tesla will have the exact percentage at any given time).

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the release timing of the two versions is biased in proportion to how many people are on each platform? In any case, you are free to choose a different phone platform if you think it would serve you better overall.

But it would be absolutely foolish to hold back one app version from owners simply because they wanted everyone to get it at the same time. That would increase average wait times for no good reason, unless you consider perceived fairness a good reason.

Actually release timing of when your car gets the update is based on what ring you are in, so yes many people get updates earlier than others because of their ring status, people like social influencers, Tesla Owners Club officers, etc. get updates first. However, even getting an update first/early doesn't guarantee the feature in the update will be usable if the app on your phone isn't up to date to make use of the feature. ASS being the latest example where Apple users can use it but Android users have to wait.

Rings are not based on what phone software you are on but rather who you are such as employee, influencer, club officer, joe average, etc. What I would suggest would be that before pushing it out to the first ring that the phone software be available to use it. That's simply a coordination effort between the phone software developers and the car software developers. I don't have the breakdown numbers of Tesla owners who are Android vs Apple but let's take a look at some stats shall we!

First the source: iPhone vs Android User Stats (2024 Data) (explodingtopics.com)
It appears that in 2024 in the United States that iOS is ahead 59% to 41%. On a World Wide basis that is reversed and Android has 71% to Apple's 29%. So if Tesla were to account for what OS its owners have, even in the US they would be alienating over 40% of their owners by serving up "Apple-First" on a regular basis. On a world-wide basis they'd be ticking off an even larger %.

I looked at several sites that track Tesla software releases and found only 1 instance (NFC support) where Android users got a feature first.

If you are going to release software, you'd like to get it into the hands of a broad spectrum of your user base to uncover any issues you might have. Tesla "should" be using confidence scores before allowing software to progress through the rings from employee to influencer to club officers, etc. on outward to broader and broader audiences. The problem is that Tesla doesn't wait for enough feedback/confidence scores across the entire user population if only 59% of the population can actually use/test the new capability. Tesla is playing fast and loose with software updates and someday that could bite them in the ASS (pun intended) as it did to CrowdStrike when either confidence scores aren't used or only a subset of your user population is analyzed.

Apologies for going so far afield, but software distribution, upgrades and autonomous endpoint management is my area of specialty and when I see anomalies like this consistently happen it makes me ask "why" and what could/should be done about it. So in the end, while "fairness" is a noble goal, I'm actually more concerned about the process being used and the ramifications of that process.

(BTW I over-simplified that variables used to define each ring at Tesla, they've never released that information but it is clear that at least 2 factors are involved in what ring you are located in and that's who you are, and what hardware you are running, I'm sure there could be other factors as well that influence which ring you go into and whether or not you are ever moved between rings)

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