My 2022 Cybertruck MSRP predictions. Are you sitting down?

[Bill906]

Nobody was going to buy a truck that takes 4 lanes to make u-turn.

That must be why no one buys the Ford F150...

Ford F-150

The 2010 model of the F-150 has three Cab options: Regular Cab, SuperCab and SuperCrew. It also has two cargo bed options: a 6.5-foot short bed and an 8-foot long bed. The Regular Cab with a short bed has a curb-to-curb turning circle of 41.7 feet, while its 8-foot variant has a 47-foot turning circle. The SuperCab and SuperCrew variants with a short bed have a turning circle of 47 feet. The SuperCab with a long bed has a turning circle of 52.3 feet, while the SuperCrew with a long bed has a turning circle of 50.4 feet.

https://itstillruns.com/ford-truck-turning-specifications-7831318.html

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[SpaceYooper]

That must be why no one buys the Ford F150...

I guess this was sarcasm to make a point that 1/2 ton trucks have a large turning radius and still sell a lot.

Without posting the turning radius of the CT without 4 wheel steering, it doesn't matter.

We know the wheelbase is longer than the comparable F150 or any other crew cab with a 6.5 ft bed.

Unless we have a spec showing the CT has more steering rotation in the front than any comparable 1/2 ton, (which we don't), then we have to assume the turning radius is larger.

 

[SpaceYooper]

Yes.
Along with the one in my profile, and the 3 before it to include a 97' F250 Powerstroke, ext cab, long bed (8').

 

[Tinker71]

I guess this was sarcasm to make a point that 1/2 ton trucks have a large turning radius and still sell a lot.

Without posting the turning radius of the CT without 4 wheel steering, it doesn't matter.

We know the wheelbase is longer than the comparable F150 or any other crew cab with a 6.5 ft bed.

Unless we have a spec showing the CT has more steering rotation in the front than any comparable 1/2 ton, (which we don't), then we have to assume the turning radius is larger.

I don't recall people complaining when the got to drive the prototype at the reveal. I don't recall Jay Leno or the other few that got to review the ride mentioning it. If might not have been that bad or they just avoided the situation. They key with the pricing of reservation resolves around the 4 wheel steering. That is an extra.

 

[HaulingAss]

You may be correct as Tesla strives for assembly line efficiency by minimizing option choices. Tesla‘s have very few trim levels to choose from with minimal options.

Another way to say that, and one that will convey more meaning to anyone not familiar with how Tesla does things, is to say Tesla's base models come surprisingly well-equipped, including features that are typically only received by buying more expensive trim levels on competitors vehicles.

 

[Gvardaman]

Yeah, the way I expect it to go, will be:
The first models built will be the highest-end, with several options, such as: four-wheel turning, solar tonneau, tow hitch, maybe some wheel option?
I expect Tesla to honor the pricing, but reservation holders , as they come up, will be offered the option of getting a CT earlier with those options and their added cost.
I also expect them to honor the reservation FSD price (someone mentioned that it was $7k. I think my price was $4k-$5k?)
However, the time it will take to get to the more base models (no rear-wheel steering, etc.) might be an additional year or two. I hope not! I am still hoping for the twin motor version and would love to get the four wheel steering (even if I have to pay an extra ~$8k for it.)
while the language is there for a price change, the CT will ultimately be easier to build, no paint and the 4680 batteries were touted as saving significant money as well. So, we’ll see.
I can’t wait!!

 

[HaulingAss]

Depending on what options are available it could easily be that or higher. FSD is $7000 for early reservation holders who selected it $10,000 now, optional tire packages on the model X is $5500, optional interior color $1-2000. It wouldn't surprise me if you could get a Tri-motor up close to $100,000 depending on the options Tesla decides to make available.

So the pricing with Full-self driving and all options might be in line with a Ford Raptor with most of the options. Of course the Raptor takes twice as long to get to 60 mph and has less than half the load capacity and almost 1/2 the towing ability. It also can't handle like a sports car and it guzzles gas like a drunk sailor. Oh, and bullets penetrate it easily and the glass and paint is fragile.

Of course, most people are not going to be paying $10K for FSD unless FSD is out of beta and can actually drive your kids to school and back. You still get Autopilot for free. Raptor doesn't have that so you can take $10K off your estimate unless you really want FSD in which case why would the price be a surprise?

The only remaining question is why does the Ford Raptor cost so much more when it's not even half the truck?

 

[jerhenderson]

To ease early reservation holders anxiety over new vehicle issues, Tesla should start filling reservations at 194,500 and at 200k, backfill from the start.

nothing self serving from the request

Typed out a reply but no point. If you didn’t bother reading my first reply to this you aren’t going to read a this one.

assuming i can find it....

 

[Ogre]

assuming i can find it....

I deleted it so don’t bother.

You replied to me once without reading my post, why should I waste time with another you will reply to without reading?

 

[Ogre]

Yeah, the way I expect it to go, will be:
The first models built will be the highest-end, with several options, such as: four-wheel turning, solar tonneau, tow hitch, maybe some wheel option?
I expect Tesla to honor the pricing, but reservation holders , as they come up, will be offered the option of getting a CT earlier with those options and their added cost.
I also expect them to honor the reservation FSD price (someone mentioned that it was $7k. I think my price was $4k-$5k?)
However, the time it will take to get to the more base models (no rear-wheel steering, etc.) might be an additional year or two. I hope not! I am still hoping for the twin motor version and would love to get the four wheel steering (even if I have to pay an extra ~$8k for it.)
while the language is there for a price change, the CT will ultimately be easier to build, no paint and the 4680 batteries were touted as saving significant money as well. So, we’ll see.
I can’t wait!!

I suspect 4 wheel steering is going to be standard. I could totally see it going the other way,
but the way Musk talked about it, it didn’t seem like an option. Tow hitch will almost certainly be included In the base.

I wouldn’t be super shocked to be wrong on both those, just my feeling based on how it was presented.

It would be interesting to see the tri motor split into tri motor LR and tri motor off-road performance. That would be a painful choice. Maybe Cybertruck Plaid and Plaid Off-Road??

 

[rr6013]

I suspect 4 wheel steering is going to be standard. I could totally see it going the other way,
but the way Musk talked about it, it didn’t seem like an option. Tow hitch will almost certainly be included In the base.

I wouldn’t be super shocked to be wrong on both those, just my feeling based on how it was presented.

It would be interesting to see the tri motor split into tri motor LR and tri motor off-road performance. That would be a painful choice. Maybe Cybertruck Plaid and Plaid Off-Road??

FORD has abused the Bronco model in such a manner to the point that it is too many exclusionary choices.

Tesla likes to split product on technology .v. marketing
RWD
AWD
and
Editions

Editions, Tesla uses to run as limited factory productions .v. a series option. The 1,2 or3 motors broke with the paradigm. There’s 1M reservations to go before Cybertruck Editions emerge. Def. Raptor-style Edition.

 

[SpaceYooper]

I don't recall people complaining when the got to drive the prototype at the reveal. I don't recall Jay Leno or the other few that got to review the ride mentioning it. If might not have been that bad or they just avoided the situation. They key with the pricing of reservation resolves around the 4 wheel steering. That is an extra.

Did people get to drive it at the reveal? I'm pretty sure the only people driving were the Tesla reps.

People did start to take note of the turn radius when they saw the video of it being unloaded from the truck and trying to turn into a showroom. It wasn't pretty.

 

[Mini2nut]

It was a wise business move to add RWS to the upcoming Cybertruck. it helps differentiate the CT in the pickup truck segment and adds value. It will increase the price point however if comes as standard equipment. I predict prices will increase roughly 18% over the 11/19 suggested MSRP’s.

 

[Tinker71]

I suspect 4 wheel steering is going to be standard. I could totally see it going the other way,
but the way Musk talked about it, it didn’t seem like an option. Tow hitch will almost certainly be included In the base.

I wouldn’t be super shocked to be wrong on both those, just my feeling based on how it was presented.

It would be interesting to see the tri motor split into tri motor LR and tri motor off-road performance. That would be a painful choice. Maybe Cybertruck Plaid and Plaid Off-Road??

I think it depends on how much a 4 wheel steering delete would complicate the assembly line. If everything in the front is the same and you simply delete the linkage? and replace the rear hub knuckle? with a fixed part. Then I suppose you would have to modify the programing.

Again my thought is the 4 wheel steering will be offered first as a premium option and most people will take it, especially if they can move up in delivery. Then the non 4 wheel steer models will be offered at preorder pricing so Tesla can save face. This would be perfectly honorable in my book.

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