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Midwest winter driving with a lead foot is going to be completely different than the constant spring weather and accelerator babying on the west coast that those other numbers come from ;). My longest stretch was 205 miles, used 93% battery (75-80mph the entire distance).
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Check out the data HERE.
https://teslascope.com/vehicle/zaimor/gracie/trip/2207
The Good: Even without AP, driving this thing is just FUN! Comfortable ride, 0 range anxiety (had to stick <80 on one stretch because #EasternOklahoma + #ColdWeather + #NightDrive). Got to talk a LOT of Tesla because I had people come up and ask about it in _every single parking lot_ I stopped at. Also, a huge added benefit of the windshield design: no bugs on it! I don't know if that was intentional or just a side effect, but this is what my windshield looked like after a 1000 mile road trip in the midwest, largely at night - If you know, you know.

Also, the range estimates/trip planner were SPOT ON. Like, freakishly accurate. It was never off more than 6%... even on the 205 mile eastern OK stretch, even on the 19 degree early morning stretch, even on the 14mph headwind stretch.

The Bad: No CHAdeMO or CCS support. This is a HUGE miss Tesla - either put V3 Superchargers everywhere, or let us charge where we want. Sure, this will probably come later, but I'm beyond pissed at the project manager that let this launch without it. I could have saved a lot of time (and maybe cost, and driven faster) if I wasn't restricted to only supercharging on the road.

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Nice writeup, thanks. I use the energy tab all the time when road tripping our MS. Can the CT version be reduced in size so we still can see nav at the same time? I'm going to miss our old style dash and early versions of apps.
 
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CHAdeMO is dead, there won't be support for it

And besides, you really want to charge the 123 kWh pack at 50 kW?
I don't see why they wouldn't support it. It might not be the shiny coolness, but it's still very popular in the wild. And no, I wouldn't want to, but I really wouldn't want to charge it at the 6kW a L2 charger puts out. Contrary to the belief of many, there are still several areas of the US with no superchargers that an older (or in this case, heavier) Tesla really needs alternate charging for.
 
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Nice writeup, thanks. I use the energy tab all the time when road tripping our MS. Can the CT version be reduced in size so we still can see nav at the same time? I'm going to miss our old style dash and early versions of apps.
No. Nav instructions are moved to the left side so you can see your next turn and how far it is, but everything else is hidden by the energy graph. If I was curious on an ETA update or future look, I'd minimize the graph and then tap it back up.
 

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I wonder if the lack of CCS at launch is due to 350 kW. Maybe the current adapter needs to be beefed up to support that current and/or Tesla doesn’t want people to be able to charge faster at a CCS charger than a supercharger and so will slow play the CCS adapter until there’s some 350 kW superchargers in the wild.
 


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Can you share a picture of your trip in the CT so we can see how that wh/mile compares to your telescope stats?
It would be a really rough estimate (there were other drives mixed in at my stops, and I've got a completely different SOC and starting point now). But the important part of the estimates was that they were almost all within 5%, so I'm confident I can trust a 10% SOC arrival estimate. In my S/Y we usually made it 15 because it wasn't as accurate. The one estimate that was 6% off was a 100 mile run in 30F temps with a 14mph headwind.
 

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My M3 runs about 85 actual miles for every 100 battery miles. When I check your actual miles vs battery miles, you are in the low 60% range. I had heard Tesla used a different "factor" when calculating the EPA mileage, which would impact actual miles and battery miles. The M3 actual miles is 85% x 310 = 263 actual miles. The CT is 65% x 320 = 208 actual miles. If Tesla had stayed with the original EPA "Factor" the battery miles would be 245 EPA miles. Ouch. To be fair, I don't know anything about the "factor" used in the EPA calcs or even if using a different factor is true. Thanks to this forum, I have learned I know very little about how the EPA estimates are calculated. I have learned, they are not what you would expect!
 

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Are there many bugs there this time of year? If this bug-free ability is true it would be worth the cost of the car alone.
Those Midwest winter frozen bugs simply do not leave a smear.
 

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... the first and last charges take place at home for free (I have solar). ...

Check my math....
I think the solar power should get the typical capital asset treatment of useful life, production rate, total production, salvage value, with this resulting in a value per kilowatt that would be used. Unless it's actually free solar power.

Clearly the CT could be more expensive in some comparisons, say using superchargers versus a small gas powered car.
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