CT in Service - MX Plaid Loaner (FSD Comparison)

[SCTesla]

Impossible for me as most of my CT miles are towing, and FSD will not operate.

Impossible for me as most of my CT miles are towing, and FSD will not operate.

Have we heard any discussion on FSD working while towing? Or automatic backing like Ford has?

Seems like they would be a huge value add for Tesla.

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[hemiarch]

We have a model x too and I agree that FSD is much better on it but think about the challenge of driving something that’s almost double the size of most cars on the road with 4 wheel steering. That’s a big ask for a piece of software. Under the circumstances I think Tesla is off to a really good start.
I’m guessing that most of the autonomous driving brains on Tesla payroll right now are way more interested in ensuring a successful robotaxi launch than anything else.

 

[Impulsv]

So my Cybertruck was in the service center today for the tonneau cover slat fix. Tesla gave me a Model X Plaid as a loaner for the day.

I have, every chance I get, used FSD in my CT and when it works great, it’s GREAT! However, it is never perfect the entire drive and will do a few things that I’m not fond of:

- Hug the left side of the lane (center lane in the right and yellow when in the left lane)

- Take turns faster than what’s expected or normal

- Slow down very late upon reaching a red light behind another vehicle or if the vehicle in front of me is starting to slow down (regardless if their brake lights are active or not)

I typically drive in a custom profile normal acceleration, softer suspension and prefer high suspension. But I believe FSD switches to the comfort profile… I think that’s what it’s called.

When using FSD in the Model X everything I just listed was fixed. It even felt as if it was more confident and it drove phenomenally! I let it drive me completely all the way home through the crazy Norfolk/VA Beach traffic and to the most southern part of Suffolk. If I dared to do this in my CT, I’d have to disengage and reset multiple times because of the issues I’ve listed.

Is anyone else encountering these issues? And do you have experience with FSD in other cars and can say it’s like way better?

both cars were on the same software version and FSD version.

The most frustrating thing for me is the lane centering while using FSD. Sure the vehicle has different dimensions and camera placements but lane centering should be fixed by now. It clearly shows the vehicle drifting over the line on the FSD render on screen. They even added the lane departure assistance which seems to see the lanes better than FSD does.

 

[Cactusrick]

Impossible for me as most of my CT miles are towing, and FSD will not operate.

Do you think they will eventually make it so you can?

 

[Cactusrick]

IMO the more you drive with FSD and let it do its thing the better the understanding what it's doing - ie going behind the shopping center because the store I'm going to is on the other end - I would have just drove thru the parking lot.. but it ended up exactly where it was supposed to - or it turns at a road I never do to take me to the butcher - It's actually a better way of doing it....One time I wanted to get on the freeway ramp - It wouldn't turn North on Power Rd towards the freeway. I made it turn. A few blocks down the CT wanted to do a U-turn ....long story short .... the freeway ramp was closed and it was rerouting me.. Living in sci-fi with FSD and Grok.....If you haven't tried Grog in your truck - DO IT!

 

[koolio]

Maybe it’s me but I’m surprised to hear so many people say FSD on CT is way worse than other Tesla vehicles. We have a 2024 Model 3 with FSD and, while 90% of my driving is my CT, I don’t think FSD on the model 3 is that much better. In some scenarios, it feels more confident in the decisions it makes but overall I don’t see that much difference. And I think it’s better than FSD was on my previous HW3 Model Y.

Just the other week, I had to do a 500 mile round trip drive to northern NJ for a funeral and used FSD 100% of the drive down and back. No issues.

The hugging left lane line on the highway is annoying but it only happens sporadically (I’d say 30% of my highway drives).

There are some instances where FSD on our model 3 is more abrupt with braking than the CT.

 

[Cactusrick]

Maybe it’s me but I’m surprised to hear so many people say FSD on CT is way worse than other Tesla vehicles. We have a 2024 Model 3 with FSD and, while 90% of my driving is my CT, I don’t think FSD on the model 3 is that much better. In some scenarios, it feels more confident in the decisions it makes but overall I don’t see that much difference. And I think it’s better than FSD was on my previous HW3 Model Y.

Just the other week, I had to do a 500 mile round trip drive to northern NJ for a funeral and used FSD 100% of the drive down and back. No issues.

The hugging left lane line on the highway is annoying but it only happens sporadically (I’d say 30% of my highway drives).

There are some instances where FSD on our model 3 is more abrupt with braking than the CT.

Agree - We have an early 2023 MYLR and a year old FS beast....Loved this truck.
I seldom drive the Y anymore so time to part ways with the Y......

 

[neonlbc]

Yea I talked about the same things you’ve listed on a video. My thought is that FSD is still not properly calibrated to the weight of the Cybertruck.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Do you think they will eventually make it so you can?

Tesla has said it isn't in development - I tow with a MX, MY Juniper and the CT - it is a very complex task - requires the vehicle to know a lot of trailer characteristics including width, length, height, braking characteristics, etc. This is why Tesla's decision to entirely abandon AP for the CT is so problematic - we will never get FSD with towing, so AP would be helpful.

 

[Scarecrow]

CT is your first Tesla, huh? Yeah, the sexy cars do better. They have a ridiculous amount of them on the road to provide tons of efficient inference compute. CT only has, well, us. We’ll get there, but we all need to keep FSDing our trucks as much as we can.

Help me out here... not afraid to highlight ignorance... does the act of just using FSD provide feedback for improvements or do we need to manually provide feedback when we turn FSD off and are prompted? I use it fairly regularly, but rarely provide feedback when prompted.

 

[ABILISK]

Help me out here... not afraid to highlight ignorance... does the act of just using FSD provide feedback for improvements or do we need to manually provide feedback when we turn FSD off and are prompted? I use it fairly regularly, but rarely provide feedback when prompted.

It doesn’t need any verbal notes to improve, just make sure you’re setup to upload the FSD data when you get home and connect to WiFi

 

[Scarecrow]

It doesn’t need any verbal notes to improve, just make sure you’re setup to upload the FSD data when you get home and connect to WiFi

Got it. thank you.

 

[Cactusrick]

TODAY !!!- My setting is on "advanced" for software updates and today I just drove a typical 7 mile drive with my dark glasses on - NOT ONE SINGLE NAG - usually with my dark shades on it I'd get several NAGS....

Help me out here... not afraid to highlight ignorance... does the act of just using FSD provide feedback for improvements or do we need to manually provide feedback when we turn FSD off and are prompted? I use it fairly regularly, but rarely provide feedback when prompted.

I try to provide feedback especially if it did something dangerously wrong. It helps them.... Grok says by having your setting on updates on "Advance" it sends information to Tesla while driving or parked overnight and at the same time it can send tweaks out for those on Advance to try - but the major updates roll out every few months and are usually a nice improvement . Today with dark sunglasses I drove FSD and no NAG - these are routes I normally drive daily and always have Nags here and there especially with these sunglasses-

 

[roadrunner32]

TODAY !!!- My setting is on "advanced" for software updates and today I just drove a typical 7 mile drive with my dark glasses on - NOT ONE SINGLE NAG - usually with my dark shades on it I'd get several NAGS....

I try to provide feedback especially if it did something dangerously wrong. It helps them.... Grok says by having your setting on updates on "Advance" it sends information to Tesla while driving or parked overnight and at the same time it can send tweaks out for those on Advance to try - but the major updates roll out every few months and are usually a nice improvement . Today with dark sunglasses I drove FSD and no NAG - these are routes I normally drive daily and always have Nags here and there especially with these sunglasses-

for at least 4 months and half dozen up dates I have complained using the button that my HW3 fails Model Y to maintain the speed on the same stretch of hi way with no cars in front it slows down to 47 mph in a 55 or 60 mph posted speed limit. I feel foolish talking to the car saying it's dangerous and I'm paying $100 per month for this, the most simplest of FSD things. Otherwise it does fine stopping and turning lane changing. I don't understand it. I hope my CT when I get it tomorrow does better, if not, I can just read their minds "there goes' that $100,000 ridiculous looking thing slowing me down right in front of me." (I'll be the only CT in my town)

 

[Texas25CT]

UPDATE:

One of my complaints to the SC had to do with a rubbing of my steering wheel against the plastic housing behind it. I attempted to recreate it in front of the Tesla advisor, but couldn’t. I guess though he wanted to look further and removed my steering wheel and noticed some delamination of the leather on the back side. So within the service history it stated that he replaced the steering wheel with a new one.

Now, I’m not sure what types of calibration procedures are done or if anything on the software side is done when replacing the steering wheel but my complaints about FSD have, for the most part, subsided. The only thing I have noticed that I don’t like is that sometimes it’s not completely a smooth experience, compare to our MY, in longer highway speed turns (left or right).

Can anyone explain why this might be?

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