CYBERBEAST or AWD (WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY AND WHY)

[Cyberhugo1]

The main selling point is acceleration? What other selling point is there? I guess one could claim torque vectoring but, realistically, I'm not sure how often most people would even notice it.

The Beast Payload capacity is over 200 lbs. less. The efficiency is slightly lower. It's Front Wheel Drive while cruising, it costs a lot more, and it lacks the mechanical rear locking differential of the Dual Motor. Plus, the Dual Motor is lighter for off-road conditions that benefit from being lighter.

I could buy 100's of Cybertrucks without going into debt but I would choose the Dual Motor every time. At least for me, it's not at all about money (although everyone still likes a good deal). If a person has the inclination, and can afford it, it makes sense to have more performance for kicks on a sporty car like the Model 3 or Model S Plaid, but on a truck? Not so much, the Dual Motor has appropriate power levels (more than appropriate really) for a truck. Heck, I feel like I'm abusing the All-Terrain tires enough (especially the ones with the 3 Peak/Snowflake) with the Dual Motor power.

Yeah, it's prettty sporty for a truck, but it's still a truck. I'll take the lighter weight, higher payload capacity and rear locker over insane acceleration. Coming from an F-150 with a naturally aspirated V-8, the Dual Motor is all it takes to spoil me with power (and if I want more speed I'll get in my Performance Model 3). I would be more likely to buy a Plaid Model S before a Beast, I just don't have anywhere to park it.

100% agree, great points.

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[Cyberhugo1]

And you have mechanical lockers to get help get through the squishy bits.

That's right.

 

[bg002h]

If you want acceleration, drive a Model S Plaid.

The Cyberbeast is quaint by comparison.

Agreed. Unless you can’t afford both and need/want a truck. The plaid is in another league compared to the beast.

 

[btcrealm]

If you want acceleration, drive a Model S Plaid.

The Cyberbeast is quaint by comparison.

Agreed. Unless you can’t afford both and need/want a truck. The plaid is in another league compared to the beast.

I've driven both and am honestly happier with my cyberbeast. It has more acceleration, better cornering in performance modes, and although not as good yet off-roading due to only a physical front locker it is getting there with software.
I think its a driving personality choice. I don't like cars but I enjoyed windy roads with my motorcycle. I no longer have that but the cyberbeast is fun for its size and performance on road.

 

[BlueLightning]

Used Foundation, priced well, low miles and FSD and Data might be included?!

The prices are dropping! $72k now.

 

[bg002h]

The main selling point is acceleration? What other selling point is there? I guess one could claim torque vectoring but, realistically, I'm not sure how often most people would even notice it.

The Beast Payload capacity is over 200 lbs. less. The efficiency is slightly lower. It's Front Wheel Drive while cruising, it costs a lot more, and it lacks the mechanical rear locking differential of the Dual Motor. Plus, the Dual Motor is lighter for off-road conditions that benefit from being lighter.

I could buy 100's of Cybertrucks without going into debt but I would choose the Dual Motor every time. At least for me, it's not at all about money (although everyone still likes a good deal). If a person has the inclination, and can afford it, it makes sense to have more performance for kicks on a sporty car like the Model 3 or Model S Plaid, but on a truck? Not so much, the Dual Motor has appropriate power levels (more than appropriate really) for a truck. Heck, I feel like I'm abusing the All-Terrain tires enough (especially the ones with the 3 Peak/Snowflake) with the Dual Motor power.

Yeah, it's prettty sporty for a truck, but it's still a truck. I'll take the lighter weight, higher payload capacity and rear locker over insane acceleration. Coming from an F-150 with a naturally aspirated V-8, the Dual Motor is all it takes to spoil me with power (and if I want more speed I'll get in my Performance Model 3). I would be more likely to buy a Plaid Model S before a Beast, I just don't have anywhere to park it.

Good point. Main implies plural selling points and such a sloppy implication is inappropriate.

That said, the S plaid is in another league from the beast, having launched in both. It’s not even close.

I don’t really need a truck or a sports car…so it was hard to justify buying both a fast car and a truck…so I took the poor man’s compromise and bought the beast. I’ve had mine almost a year and still don’t have 6,000 miles on it yet. And that’s with a lot of unnecessary just-for-fun driving. The AWB would be just as fun 99% of the time I drive.

 

[IntoTheRain916]

*This is off topic* and being let's say high on life, this is the best thread eveeerrrr. Just saying ? ? ?

 

[NonStopJohnBeast]

Alright gentlemen I am back after spending the day with the beast I must say the damn thing is faaaaaaast. I got more questions and I’ll be giving a slight opinion if I may.​

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1. The front motor is loud like really. At this point I don’t know if it bothers me or not since I’m not into listening to music when I drive I don’t know I might bother me…​

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2. The suspensions in beast mode seem like my M3 kw3 coil overs. I’m loving it. The truck over all seems stiffer than the AWD is it just me or my head is telling me that since I stepped in the beast. Let me know what you guys think?​

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3. Driving at slower speeds the motor was not as noise am I loosing it by now.​

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4. The turning and steering again feels better in beast mode and not jerky. I’m wondering if the awd can he suspensions be adjusted ?​

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5. Acceleration and speed like everyone on here said

That’s my little girl ?. That’s how I felt in the CB.​

To wrap it all up the beast is better. Having different options in the driving dynamic is better.
Now I am stuck again because I know for what I do awd will be a better drive and better over all use of the truck. But will I be able to live with my self driving down the road and saying why didn’t I get the beast …​

 

[NonStopJohnBeast]

Not sure if the core wheels had anything to do with the way it felt on the road vs the cyber wheels?

 

[Cyberhugo1]

Alright gentlemen I am back after spending the day with the beast I must say the damn thing is faaaaaaast. I got more questions and I’ll be giving a slight opinion if I may.​

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1. The front motor is loud like really. At this point I don’t know if it bothers me or not since I’m not into listening to music when I drive I don’t know I might bother me…​

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2. The suspensions in beast mode seem like my M3 kw3 coil overs. I’m loving it. The truck over all seems stiffer than the AWD is it just me or my head is telling me that since I stepped in the beast. Let me know what you guys think?​

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3. Driving at slower speeds the motor was not as noise am I loosing it by now.​

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4. The turning and steering again feels better in beast mode and not jerky. I’m wondering if the awd can he suspensions be adjusted ?​

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5. Acceleration and speed like everyone on here said

That’s my little girl ?. That’s how I felt in the CB.​

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To wrap it all up the beast is better. Having different options in the driving dynamic is better.​

Now I am stuck again because I know for what I do awd will be a better drive and better over all use of the truck. But will I be able to live with my self driving down the road and saying why didn’t I get the beast …​

You won't! You'll be alright with the AWD!

 

[BlueLightning]

Just wait till the price drops!

 

[dalton108]

If you want acceleration, drive a Model S Plaid.

The Cyberbeast is quaint by comparison.

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[ABILISK]

2. The suspensions in beast mode seem like my M3 kw3 coil overs. I’m loving it. The truck over all seems stiffer than the AWD is it just me or my head is telling me that since I stepped in the beast. Let me know what you guys think?

4. The turning and steering again feels better in beast mode and not jerky. I’m wondering if the awd can he suspensions be adjusted ?

Never driven an AWD, but some thoughts on 2 & 4: AWD defaults to medium ride height I believe, and Beast mode defaults to low ride height I know for a fact. That’s probably why the beast felt stiffer and less jerky - it was lower. I’d try the AWD again. Use “custom” mode (I assume those still have that) and set the preferred ride height to “lower” and see how that feels.

As far as the motor noise, is the AWD quieter? Could have to do with the permanent magnet motor being in the rear, but not sure? The Beast does let out a good little purr when you stomp it.

 

[btcrealm]

If you are like me, you enjoy driving. Having driven both as well I would not be happy with the AWD. I probably let it FSD 60-70% of the time but any time there is fun to be had I'm taking over. If that is your personality then the cyberbeast was made for you.
It is all a perspective/personality thing. Remember even you said you were daily driving a TRX.
As a bonus I also did better on the trails than a Raptor (I know they aren't what they were when they first came out).

The downsides are slightly less mileage, a couple hundred pounds less cargo capacity, and no physical rear locker.

The "beast" mode is not achievable any other way in either model. I don't know if this is only software or if the suspension is slightly different on the cyberbeast but I don't think I've seen any part numbers that show that.

Also those are not the AT wheels and tires, they are the core.

 

[carsly]

To the OP, one way to think about this is some of the other vehicle purchases you've made. Do you prefer:
- BMW M-sport or BMW M
- AMG-line or AMG
- Vette or Vette Z06
- Model S or Model S Plaid

If you lean towards the right side with your purchases, you might prefer the Beast. That said, I lean towards the right and picked an AWD as its my daily driver so prefer RWD handling/feel for regular driving vs. FWD. The incremental acceleration 0.01% of the time - to me - wasn't enough to compensate for this shift in dynamics and vehicle feel 99.99% of the time I'm driving.

Honestly, you can't go wrong either way. Both are stupidly quick for a truck, have amazing steering with steer-by-wire, are superbly agile for their length with 4WS, have some of the best stereos available with crisp highs and thumping lows and are as comfortable cruising 500 miles on a highway as driving down a rutted trail (or rutted highways if you live in the Northeast).

The way I look at it is every vehicle decision should come down to....Cybertruck, or not Cybertruck. And I have no idea why, other than third-row seating, anyone would ever choose not Cybertruck

BTW, the all-terrains are much quieter and more efficient than similar tires on other vehicles. The 33" off-road all-terrains on my LR Defender drone on highways. The 35" all terrains on the Cybertruck sound more like road tires as in pretty quiet. Guessing the all-seasons are effectively silent. But who would want a Cybertruck with core wheels and all seasons? Heresy!

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