Cybertruck front casting might need 8-ton casting press instead of 6-ton

Richard V.

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No… it’s an absolutely requirement that every truck be able to plough snow for 500 miles in -50 degree weather while towing a 35’ trailer home with a roof top tent and lumber rack at 75MPH going uphill the entire time. Also, the dog should be comfortable in the bed so full HVAC. It’s totally Ok if you have to drop the trailer off to take the truck out on the lake for a couple hour break before finishing the trip.

I’ve been assured that this is in fact a requirement of every truck ever and if the Cybertruck fails to meet a single one of these criteria… it is NOT A REAL TRUCK.







/s (just in case there is any doubt)
Interesting specs and use cases you have listed above.
In the end, you pay for what you get and hope one of the Cybertruck meets your needs.
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I mock, but I do genuinely hope you guys get your plough.

But which is more important. Plough or Midgate? I you had to choose one which would it be?
Cybertruck buyers should not have to choose either or between those two. Those features are not even in the same part of the truck.

Want mid-gate and ability to mount snow plow or winch on front.

Zac & Jessie should have checked the more important question for F-150 Lightning EV is since it can't easily support mounting of snow plow it might also have issues with mounting a winch. Might be many more trucks with winches than there are with plows.


There are tons of winch options for the ICE Ford F-150 are there any for F-150 Lightning EV?

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The strength of the casting is related to the force of the casting machine. Because the mass and surface area of the casting, and therefore the resulting strength, is related to the force required to cast it.

That said, the front casting is still going to be physically shorter, because it doesn't hold a 6 1/2 foot bed. We don't need to be engineers to make educated guesses at what the final choices will be.

-Crissa
You mean the viability of the casting is proportional to the clamping pressure don't you?
 

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Cybertruck buyers should not have to choose either or between those two. Those features are not even in the same part of the truck.

Want mid-gate and ability to mount snow plow or winch on front.

Zac & Jessie should have checked the more important question for F-150 Lightning EV is since it can't easily support mounting of snow plow it might also have issues with mounting a winch. Might be many more trucks with winches than there are with plows.


There are tons of winch options for the ICE Ford F-150 are there any for F-150 Lightning EV?

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Ford Motor Company - Ford Offering New Integrated Winch for 2020 F-Series Super Duty Tremor Gas and Diesel Trucks
Jan 14, 2020
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-integrated-winch-2020-super-duty-tremor.html

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Ford Motor Company - 12,000-Pound Ford Performance Parts Winch by Warn Now Available for Super Duty Pickups Beyond the Tremor
Mar 31, 2021
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...12000-pound-ford-performance-parts-winch.html

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SwarfWorks brand Winch Mount for 2015-2020 Ford F150
https://swarfworks.com/2018-ford-f150-winch-mount/


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Warn Trans4mer Gen III Center-Only Grille Guard - 102957
https://international.warn.com/center-only-grille-guard-requires-mounting-kit-102957

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2015-2019 Ford F-150 Hidden Winch Mount by Rough Country
May 10, 2019


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SHORTS Now playing 2018 2.7 EcoBoost F-150 at Hard Rock
2019 March 24

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The ol’ winch gets to pull a semi tractor out of the mud.
2022March

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I would expect a winch or plough capability to be more important to most working-truck owners than a midgate.
 


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You mean the viability of the casting is proportional to the clamping pressure don't you?
Exacly, bigger casts with more metal, if well engineered, would do magic for the front end of this truck. (I think)
 

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They haven't specced anything public about the front end. We don't even know if it'll have a casting at all!

We just have back of the napkin, educated guesses. And that's all an engineer who isn't on the team would have, too.

-Crissa
True, we don't *know*, but then again Tesla is unlikely to move backward.
 

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Plough is like tyre, in that they are both wrong.
Plow is like tire, in that they are both correct.


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1. "Plough is like tyre, in that they are both wrong." Therefore, line one was read by a US citizen and Line 2 was read by a UK citizen.
2. "Plow is like tire, in that they are both correct." Therefore, line one was read by a UK citizen and line 2 was read by a US citizen.
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You mean the viability of the casting is proportional to the clamping pressure don't you?
I mean, the surface area of the casting is related directly to the needed clamping pressure. A larger casting has more surface area and needs more pressure. The bed is particularly large, compared to the previous casting, hence the even bigger gigapress.

-Crissa
 
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I mean, the surface area of the casting is related directly to the needed clamping pressure. A larger casting has more surface area and needs more pressure. The beed is particularly large, hence the even bigger gigapress.

-Crissa
Oh. Agreed. I thought you were saying that a larger clamping pressure would produce a stronger casting and that isn’t true.
 
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Oh. Agreed. I thought you were dying that a larger clamping pressure would produce a stronger casting and that isn’t true.
Yes.

Clamping force isn’t even squeezing the aluminum, it is squeezing the forms together. The pressure is just a matter of how firmly the sides of the form are pushed together. The aluminum is squeezed into the void between the two forms.

It’s just a question of how many pieces there will be in the final and how the pieces are put together. There are likely at least 3 big cast pieces rear of the passenger cabin.
 
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